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I'd rather allow you to reach your own conclusion based upon the EVIDENCE.
No, we are years away from the 42 months of Revelation 13:5.
You left out the destruction of the city and temple - which happened in 70 AD.
the destruction of the city -- After which, comes the confirmation of the covenant for 7 years.
26 And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself:
The little horn person in Daniel 8:11 stops the daily sacrifice. The vision is for time of the end - in the text..Messiah - in the 70th week
Next verse...27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease,
No-one is claiming that after the city is destroyed the messiah will be cut off.1. The Messiah is cut off - crucified in the midst of that week of years -- in 31.A.D.
2. the text does not say "after the city is destroyed the messiah will be cut off"
No, there is no such irrefutable rule. In Ezekiel 39, there is a 7 year gap in the text between verse 16 and verses 17-20.Irrefutable rule.
All... Bible Timelines.. are ... contiguous.
that means you cannot chop up the 70 years of Jeremiah's prophecy mentioned in Daniel 9:1-9 and insert massive gaps of unknown-numbers-of-eons into the middle of it.
He most certainly did. He called himself "pontifus maximus" essentially making himself the first pope. Look at the catholic church with its candles and incense and kissing of statues toes and rituals. Purely pagan and matches pagan practices. The christians did not do these things.Constantine didn't combine paganism and Christianity...
Nonsense. He was not even a christian and got baptised right before he died. He did not care about that. He cared about power and being the head of all religious organizations in his empire.Christian sects in his empire were fighting over whether Jesus was a created being or part of the Trinity.
He wanted them to knock that off, so he called a council of all the bishops to sort it out once and for all.
Where are you getting you information about the motives of Constantine? Read about when he was finally baptised.The creeds came out of those councils.
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Those councils are literally where that Creed comes from.
I'm not sure where you got your information from, but please recheck and verify vs. multiple independent sources.
That is what a lot of Christians believed since the beginning of the false teaching dispensationalism. It is not true and requires ignorance of history to believe.It has not yet begun
If is very unlikely the EU is going to do anything like that. It is reaching to assume it is and that is often what these "Late Great Planet Earther" do. Make up something.It is not ten kings of ten nations. It is ten kings - leaders. It does not have to be ten leaders - each of an individual nation.
It is likely that the EU will have ten representative districts - metric system - which is based on ten toes, ten fingers (thumbs) on the hand. Some districts would have one country, others two or three - in order to more equalize the population representation.
Parable of the fig tree, puts a ceiling the length of a generation onto 1967, Jerusalem the fig tree. 1967 + 70 = 2037 minus 7 years = 2030 beginning of the 70th week, at the latest.
Labels make it easy to dismiss. I believe the prophies of JEsus were fulfilled because he said that some standing there would see it with their own eyes. That dates the fulfillment to that generation. Those who deny this have a big struggle with Jesus either being ignorant or lying.Futurists are not wishing suffering and evil upon the world. That's a mis-characterization. You are making an advertising campaign for the preterist view.
It is over but it is not a hostile take over. The kingdom of satan if losing ground every generation.God is the One Who is putting an end to Satan's kingdom overshadowing the world. To bring in everlasting righteousness to complete the 70 weeks. That is what will be taking place during the 70th week - the prosecution of Satan and his angels.
It was. It was Jerusalem and it says so plainly. The Christian then knew that was it. John said it was coming soon. The Christian fled and missed the wrath of God. Scripture after scripture marvelously fulfilled. It is as thrilling to read as the scriptures fulfilled at the birth of Christ.Babylon is fallen, is fallen! That is what is going to be said during that day. That's not what has happened yet, but it is going to happen. And that day is nearly here.
Nonsense. He was not even a christian and got baptised right before he died.
Where are you getting you information about the motives of Constantine? Read about when he was finally baptised.
No, we are years away from the 42 months of Revelation 13:5.
You left out the destruction of the city and temple - which happened in 70 AD.
the destruction of the city -- After which, comes the confirmation of the covenant for 7 years.
26 And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself:
No-one is claiming that after the city is destroyed the messiah will be cut off.
The order of the text is the messiah is cutoff, then afterward, the city and sanctuary are destroyed. Which happened in 70 AD.
So there had to be a break in the 70 weeks of years (490 years)
Jesus rode into Jerusalem that final passover week of his life. Arriving in Jerusalem hailed as the messiah. John 12:12-13.
4 days later, Jesus was crucified. The gap begins.
No, there is no such irrefutable rule. In Ezekiel 39, there is a 7 year gap in the text between verse 16 and verses 17-20.
Jesus clearly linked the "abomination of desolation", "spoken of by Daniel the Prophet" = Daniel 9:27...
the Messiah Himself stated, that
AoD = Dan 9:27 = 70 AD
If so, then the 70th week = 7 years centered on 70 AD = 67-73 AD = 1st Jewish-Roman War,
On the contrary - that 1260 day-for-year period known as the "dark ages" is over.
The 70 week timeline started in 457 B.C.
69 weeks - 483 days - = 483 years because all apocalyptic timelines use day-for-year. 27 AD.
70th week - 7 days = 7 years from 27 A.D. to 34 A.D.
27 A.D. - Christ is anointed for ministry as the Anointed one - at His baptism
31 A.D. - midst of the week - Christ is cut off... Crucified
32 A.D. - Gospel goes to gentiles - Stephen is killed. Saul--> Paul.
1. The Messiah is cut off - crucified in the midst of that week of years -- in 31.A.D.
" the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary;"
Speaks of a future event - but the text does not say that the people of the future prince destroy the city before the Messiah is cut off. Or that they do it within the 70 week timeline at all.
Messiah - in the 70th week
Next verse...27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease,
Matt 26:28 - Christ says "This is the New Covenant in My blood" - Christ confirms/ratifies the covenant
Hebrews 10:4-12 says that at the crucifixion the Messiah causes sacrifices and offering to cease - "He takes away the first to establish the second"
All fulfilled.
The future is prediction is continued --
(and the people of the prince who is to come (pagan Rome) will destroy the city (Jerusalem) and the sanctuary. And its end will come with a flood; even to the end there will be war; desolations are determined --- actions of Pagan Rome)
27 And he (the Messiah) will make a firm covenant with the many for one week ("This is the New Covenant in My Blood" Matthew 26:28), but in the middle of the week he will put a stop to sacrifice and grain offering; (Hebrews 10:4-12 Messiah stops sacrifices and offerings)
(and on the wing of abominations will come one who makes desolate, even until a complete destruction, one that is decreed, is poured out on the one who makes desolate.” -- another ref to Pagain Rome)
So the wikipedia site attributes Constantine being concerned about the nature of Christ and not wanting to stayin power over all religions? Even though he was baptized shortly before his death not committing to being a Christian (if that ever happened) as a fact is left out? This is history. It is a fact. He was baptized shortly before he died when, frankly speaking, it did not really matter anymore as far as Rome was concerned.My sources in previous links with wikipedia citing multiple sub sources. I guess, same question to you?
I think your sources ought to stop trying to figure out what motives tyrants. There were a lot of religions in Rome in his day and he did not understand all of them nor did he need to. His army kept the peace as with all tyrants. Peace is not kept by having committies and the Christans were discussing, not killing each other.I'm aware of that, he was an emporer. Emporers don't like it when there are a bunch of sects of religions they don't fully understand fighting over things they don't understand. Bad for the peace. Emporers also tend to have a lot of blood on their hands by the end of their reign. That's why he waited for the baptism.
He made Christianity legal and encorporated paganism into in and within his lifetime started persecuting all Christians who did not join his "christain" church. The ending of persecution was limiting. The Catholics continued it down through the centuries including burning Bibles and their owners. He did something very bad for Christianity as paganism entered its doors.He did a lot of good things for Christianity. He used his authority as emporer to call the councils. He commissioned some of the first bibles. He ended Christian persecution in the Roman empire.
The church was better off not being run by a tyrant.Anyway, read up on it and you decide whether he was a overall positive influence or not. He is a good historical figure to know about.
Constantine was the first Roman emperor to convert to Christianity.[notes 1] Although he lived most of his life as a pagan, he joined the Christian faith on his deathbed, being baptised by Eusebius of Nicomedia. He played an influential role in the proclamation of the Edict of Milan in 313, which declared religious tolerance for Christianity in the Roman empire. He called the First Council of Nicaea in 325 that produced the statement of Christian belief known as the Nicene Creed.
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The reign of Constantine established a precedent for the emperor to have great influence and authority in the early Christian councils, most notably the dispute over Arianism. Constantine disliked the risks to societal stability that religious disputes and controversies brought with them, preferring to establish an orthodoxy.[226] His influence over the Church councils was to enforce doctrine, root out heresy, and uphold ecclesiastical unity; the Church's role was to determine proper worship, doctrines, and dogma.[227]
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Constantine was the first emperor to stop the persecution of Christians and to legalise Christianity, along with all other religions and cults in the Roman Empire. In February 313, he met with Licinius in Milan and developed the Edict of Milan, which stated that Christians should be allowed to follow their faith without oppression.[214] This removed penalties for professing Christianity, under which many had been martyred previously, and it returned confiscated Church property. The edict protected all religions from persecution, not only Christianity, allowing anyone to worship any deity that they chose. A similar edict had been issued in 311 by Galerius, senior emperor of the Tetrarchy, which granted Christians the right to practise their religion but did not restore any property to them.[215] The Edict of Milan included several clauses which stated that all confiscated churches would be returned, as well as other provisions for previously persecuted Christians. Scholars debate whether Constantine adopted his mother Helena's Christianity in his youth, or whether he adopted it gradually over the course of his life.[216]
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Constantine possibly retained the title of pontifex maximus which emperors bore as heads of the ancient Roman religion until Gratian renounced the title.[217][218] According to Christian writers, Constantine was over 40 when he finally declared himself a Christian, making it clear that he owed his successes to the protection of the Christian High God alone.[219] Despite these declarations of being a Christian, he waited to be baptized on his deathbed, believing that the baptism would release him of any sins he committed in the course of carrying out his policies while emperor. He supported the Church financially, built basilicas, granted privileges to clergy (such as exemption from certain taxes), promoted Christians to high office, and returned property confiscated during the long period of persecution.[220] His most famous building projects include the Church of the Holy Sepulchre and Old Saint Peter's Basilica. In constructing the Old Saint Peter's Basilica Constantine went to great lengths to erect the basilica on top of St. Peter's resting place, so much so that it even effected the design of the basilica and even undertook the challenge of erecting it on the hill where St. Peter rested, making its complete construction time over 30 years from the date Constantine ordered it to be built.
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North African bishops struggled with Christian bishops who had been ordained by Donatus in opposition to Caecilian from 313 to 316. The African bishops could not come to terms and the Donatists asked Constantine to act as a judge in the dispute. Three regional Church councils and another trial before Constantine all ruled against Donatus and the Donatism movement in North Africa. In 317, Constantine issued an edict to confiscate Donatist church property and to send Donatist clergy into exile.[228] More significantly, in 325 he summoned the First Council of Nicaea, most known for its dealing with Arianism and for instituting the Nicene Creed. He enforced the Council's prohibition against celebrating the Lord's Supper on the day before the Jewish Passover, which marked a definite break of Christianity from the Judaic tradition. From then on, the solar Julian Calendar was given precedence over the lunisolar Hebrew Calendar among the Christian churches of the Roman Empire.[229]
16 And even the name of the city will be Hamonah. So they will cleanse the land.”’
17 “As for you, son of man, thus says the Lord God, ‘Speak to every kind of bird and to every beast of the field, “Assemble and come, gather from every side to My sacrifice which I am going to sacrifice for you, as a great sacrifice on the mountains of Israel, that you may eat flesh and drink blood. 18 You will eat the flesh of mighty men and drink the blood of the princes of the earth, as though they were rams, lambs, goats and bulls, all of them fatlings of Bashan. 19 So you will eat fat until you are glutted, and drink blood until you are drunk, from My sacrifice which I have sacrificed for you. 20 You will be glutted at My table with horses and charioteers, with mighty men and all the men of war,” declares the Lord God.
No Timeline AT ALL in that chapter. Were we simply "not supposed to notice"???
The fundamental timeline of the end times is the 7 years of Daniel 9:27. .
Ummmmmm, no, no, and yes.1. It has a 70 year prophecy in Daniel 9:1-7
2. It has a 490 year prophecy in Daniel 9:24-27 -- but it has no "7 year" prophecy.
3. All Bible timelines without exception are contiguous. So no slicing-dicing them up and scattering them all over history.
27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.2. It has a 490 year prophecy in Daniel 9:24-27 -- but it has no "7 year" prophecy.
Jeremiah's 70 years is the time Israel would be in Babylon captivity. The 70 weeks (of years) is the time determined on Daniel's people and Jerusalem.That means you cannot claim to have the last 2 years of Jeremiahs 70 year timeline that Daniel 9 mentions - happen 'starting tomorrow'.
3. All Bible timelines without exception are contiguous. So no slicing-dicing them up and scattering them all over history.
The fundamental timeline of the end times is the 7 years of Daniel 9:27. .
27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week:
Jeremiah's 70 years is the time Israel would be in Babylon captivity.
The 70 weeks (of years) is the time determined on Daniel's people and Jerusalem.
The 70th week, the 7 years, will begin when
Ha! You believe the messiah came back at the first century.
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