Yes.Israel was grafted out of the olive tree
No. He is superseded by a new covenant, but the old covenant is not cancelled. Unless a Jew comes to Christ, he is under the law. When Jesus returns, the old and new covenant will unite, and all Israel will be saved.and the old covenant was cancelled.
Ask this to Peter, who said:Which part of the law can we not obey?
The commandments of Jesus, or the commandments of Moses?John 14:15 “If you love Me, keep My commandments.
Who says so? Is there any scriptural evidence that the 4th commandment does not refer to all the Sabbaths mentioned in the Pentateuch?there are many annual sabbaths of the old testament that are not related to God's 4th commandment of the 10 commandment
The KJV (and maybe other versions) mention a Sabbath here. in Hebrew, there is not the wort "shabbat", but rather another word, derived from shabbat.So why do you refer to a "sabbath on the annual Feast of Trumpets" when the text does not mention a seventh day?
But it was made known only to the Israelites on mount Sinai. God's rest was complete after creation (Heb 4:3-4 the commandment on mount Sinai was only a shadow for the sabbatismos yet to come, Heb 4:9.If you read my remark you should know I said nothing about the 10 commandments. The sabbath of the 4th commandment is a day that predates Moses by quite a bit.
"For we which have believed do enter into rest"
The crucial question is: Is this about the commandments of Mose, or about the commandments of Jesus?This is what the Bible says:
1 John 2:14 Whoever says “I know him” but does not keep his commandments is a liar, and the truth is not in him,
Revelations 22:14 Blessed are those who do His commandments, that they may have the right to the tree of life, and may enter through the gates into the city.
According to Jews, there are only 9 Commandments, because the first word is "I am JHWH your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage".3) The other nine commandments are not “just for Jews.” God wrote “Ten Commandments” on stone, not just nine (See Deut. 4:12, 13; Ex. 20). Does “Do not commit adultery,” “Do not murder,” “Do not steal,” and “Do not bear false witness” apply only to Jews?
Why is it not included in the list of commandments Gentile Christians should obey (Acts 15)? Did the Holy Spirit, who participated in making this list (Acts 15:28) forget to mention it, or was he unable to lead the Apostles the right way?5) The Sabbath commandment is for the “stranger” too. The fourth commandment itself says the “stranger” is to rest on the Sabbath. Exodus 20:10. “Strangers” are non-Jews, or Gentiles. Thus the Sabbath applies to them too. Read also Isaiah 56:6.
The letter to the Hebrews has even less Semitisms (unless we count the Semitisms in OT quotes, which the author did not dare to obliterate) than Luke, so this letter may also be written by a Gentile Christian.10) Luke was a Gentile who kept the Sabbath. Luke was the only Gentile who wrote any New Testament books (he wrote The Gospel According to St. Luke and The Acts of the Apostles).
You did not quote why they went there:Luke traveled with Paul and wrote, “On the Sabbath we went out of the city by a river side.” Acts 16:13. It was the seventh-day Sabbath, the memorial of the creation (see Ex. 20:11). Both Luke and Paul knew it.
What Paul says there was nothing new, even in the Pentateuch it is said the the function of the law was persuading and condemning Israel.And the ten commands are no longer the commands of God, in fact Paul makes it crystal clear that the law is meant only for sinners and the ungodly, and thus only applies today, to the unsaved, to show them what sin. Is, and not to born again believers, who have died to the law.
The commands now are the two love commands, that don’t require keeping any days, which is why the apostles chose to assemble together on the Lords day, in honor of the day Jesus rose from the dead.
"Deeper" is sometimes a camouflage for "discussing the obvious away".We know now by reading deeper and not by not surface reading the scriptures and by adding the context back that Colossians 2:16-17 is not even talking about God's 4th commandmen
But it was made known only to the Israelites on mount Sinai.
In the OT background, the rest is primarily the land of Canaan. Yet Hebrew states that this is only outwardly, the real meaning is spiritual - and so he can introduce the Psalm word about another rest.Hi SANTOSO, yes no problem. I believe Hebrews 4:11 is a continuation of the contexts of Hebrews 4:1-9. The "THAT REST" is the same as the "MY REST" that those who did not believe the gospel could not enter into. The "MY REST" is "GOD'S REST" and this is already identified in the Hebrews 4:1-5 as the "seventh day Sabbath" of creation where God rested from his work of creation *Genesis 2:1-3 and blessed the "seventh day" of the week and made it a "Holy day" of rest for mankind *Mark 2:27.
There was a post that showed Scriptural evidence that the Sabbath commandment was revealed on mount Sinai.There is debate about that. I`m inclined to believe the Sabbath has been known from the time of Adam.
I don`t think it was a secret.
You did not ask me, but I want to give an answer:What scripture are you referring to? I'd like to take a look at it.James and Paul said same thing about works but they expressed it differently. The English translation is easily misunderstood to appear to be two different positions.
No, Paul has no fixation on the 10 (or 9, if we follow the Jewish custom, which has 10 words, one introduction and 9 commandments), he is with the full law. Just as Jesus, who never said which o0f the nine commandments are the highest, but rather said the other commandments in the Torah are the highest - so these commandments are higher than the 9 commandments from the Decalogue (or 10, if you divide them, as we Christians usually do).Colossians 16:17
16 So let no one judge you in food or in drink, or regarding a festival or a new moon or sabbaths, 17 which are a shadow of things to come, but the substance is of Christ.
What is the context Paul is referring to? Food, drink, festivals? Are these anywhere in the 10 commandments?
Yes, not only the sabbath of the 4th commandment, but rather every sabbath including the sabbath of the 4th commandment. There no hint there or in any other place that the Decalogue is exceptional to such statements.He says "sabbaths? plural not THE sabbath from the 4th commandment.
Paul speaks about whether works can save, and he strongly says no. read Romans 4 or Galatians for that.
Does it have a signifivance that "very good" is said before God created Rest on the seventh day, but not after?
Why is it not included in the list of commandments Gentile Christians should obey (Acts 15)? Did the Holy Spirit, who participated in making this list (Acts 15:28) forget to mention it, or was he unable to lead the Apostles the right way?
Who taught you that Rom 11:25ff makes us into Jews? No, Israel (the part that did not receive Christ) is blind by now, but when the time comes, the cover will be removed from their eyes, they will see and come to the Lord, and whole Israel will be saved. That has nothing to do with us Gentiles.
I do not want you to be ignorant of this mystery, brothers and sisters, so that you may not be conceited: Israel has experienced a hardening in part until the full number of the Gentiles has come in, and in this way all Israel will be saved.
Nothing in the use of "part" in these sentences implies we are this part. You are utterly wrong.
We Gentiles enter salvation, but as a separate people(in James terminology in Acts 15). Jews will have to cope with the question whether the Law, which is not undone by Jesus, has to be kept by them, we Gentiles are not bound to this law, and to burden us with that is no healthy teaching (Gal 2:14-18). We are not part of all Israel which is shown in Rev 7:1-8, we are the multitude out of all tribes, peoples, languages (Rev 7,10ff), and we will (together with all Israel) be his peoples (there is a plural in the Greek in Rev 21:3!).
What you say is close to replacement theology, which deprives the Jews from their inheritance.We have to see the differences between Jews, Non-Jews ("Greeks" in 1.Co 10:32) and the Church.
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