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In other words, his theology goes to the back of the bus when science gets aboard, right?While this was not adressed to me...
... I know a good theologican when I see him present his theology without mixing metaphsics with physics and without playing semantic games.
(That was almost too easy.)
I´d say the reason why you are "disliked" - rather, constantly corrected on the things you claim - is that you are almost unable to admit being wrong, execpt when there is absolutely no room for you to wiggle out.I didn't think you would.
No one puts their beliefs up in the storefront window like dad and I do --- no one.
That's why we're disliked.
We won't sweep the Bible under the carpet, and we're not afraid to answer ad hoc questions with ad lib answers.
We give you guys just what you ask for, and we don't care about winning any popularity contests.
In other words, his theology goes to the back of the bus when science gets aboard, right?
We'll, consider some of us the Rosa Parks of the Science Express.
So, you admit it's a bit of a game?I didn't think you would.
No one puts their beliefs up in the storefront window like dad and I do --- no one.
That's why we're disliked.
We won't sweep the Bible under the carpet, and we're not afraid to answer ad hoc questions with ad lib answers.
We give you guys just what you ask for, and we don't care about winning any popularity contests.
My church?Hey, AV, would you mind posting a link to your church again?
Nope. Pretty sure it was you who posted a link to a fundamental Baptist church in Fresno, CA.My church?
You must have me mixed up with someone else.
Ah --- I see.No, in other words, he knows where his limits are and does not try to extend them by making stuff up.
IOW, the TE's cognitive dissonance is less than yours, AV.Ah --- I see.
He automatically goes to the back of the bus, whether a scientist boards or not.
Got it ---
I didn't think you would.
No one puts their beliefs up in the storefront window like dad and I do --- no one.
That's why we're disliked.
We won't sweep the Bible under the carpet, and we're not afraid to answer ad hoc questions with ad lib answers.
We give you guys just what you ask for, and we don't care about winning any popularity contests.
In other words, his theology goes to the back of the bus when science gets aboard, right?
We'll, consider some of us the Rosa Parks of the Science Express.
Ah --- I see.
He automatically goes to the back of the bus, whether a scientist boards or not.
Got it ---
Let me guess --- the difference is whether or not we embrace evolution --- correct?
Here's a simple little exercise for you.
Without naming names, can you find a "good theologian" and tell me where he/she stands on:
I could be wrong, but it seems to me that you guys know (or think you know) exactly where I stand on everything from where Adam came from to where the entire universe is going --- and the more you know, the less you like.
- creation
- evolution
- the flood
- where the flood water went
- the Bible
- inspiration, preservation, and translation
In short, in you guys eyes, the only good theologian is one you don't know.
That's why Theistic Evolutionists are right at home here; you can't tell them apart from atheists.
That's a heck of a price to pay for cognitive dissonance.IOW, the TE's cognitive dissonance is less than yours, AV.
Here comes the Telephone Game now.Tread very carefully, AV. Don't assume that how another Christian responds to science is how his whole theology operates.
So, in other words, you can name quite a few individuals with doctorates and masters in theology, but you can't tell me, as I asked, where they stand on the six issues above?Without naming names, can you find a "good theologian" and tell me where he/she stands on:
- creation
- evolution
- the flood
- where the flood water went
- the Bible
- inspiration, preservation, and translation
well i hate to brag but i know quite a few individuals with doctorate and masters in theology.
Here comes the Telephone Game now.
This is going to too many posts to maintain accuracy.
I thought we were talking about TEs specifically?
So, in other words, you can name quite a few individuals with doctorates and masters in theology, but you can't tell me, as I asked, where they stand on the six issues above?
Maybe that's why you like them.
You just might be surprised, for example, that if given the 3rd degree, you'll find they will refuse to budge on verbal plenary inspiration as well.
Is that because you can tell me where they think it did go, or you're just guessing?I can tell you they don't think the water was transported to Neptune to ward of angles.
Keep going, MoonLancer --- don't stop now --- you're on a roll.A good theologist knows there is no well supported answer to where the flood waters went
Not exactly. A good theologian would not have a professional opinion on evolution, since it deals with the physical world, not the spiritual world.Let me guess --- the difference is whether or not we embrace evolution --- correct?
Here's a simple little exercise for you.
Without naming names, can you find a "good theologian" and tell me where he/she stands on:
- creation
Either he/she supports the teaching of evolution (as with any good science) or has no opinion.[*]evolution
The flood story teaches about the consequences of sin. Whether it happened or not, or was world-wide or not, is irrelevant.[*]the flood
See above.[*]where the flood water went
[*]the Bible
[*]inspiration, preservation, and translation
I think we understand as much theology as you have shared with us. I agree with the last statement.I could be wrong, but it seems to me that you guys know (or think you know) exactly where I stand on everything from where Adam came from to where the entire universe is going --- and the more you know, the less you like.
Not at all, I have met and attended talks from theolgians and history professors who I would consider good.In short, in you guys eyes, the only good theologian is one you don't know.
Utter nonsense. A T.E. is different from an atheist in that a T.E. believes in God and that Jesus of Nazarath was/is the Christ (ie the savior).That's why Theistic Evolutionists are right at home here; you can't tell them apart from atheists.
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