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question from a new follower on angels, healing

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Some good responses here. All I will add is for your own healing the need to recognize your own authority that God has given you in the name of Jesus and your position in Christ. Regarding your position, you are a child of God, a joint heir of Jesus. None of the angels can say that. Still, they can be messengers or ministering spirits sent from heaven but angels are not exercising their own will but rather the will of God. So channeling/praying etc. to them is a downgrade to your own position that can go straight to God. What angel has the power to forgive sin? none, What angel can act highly independently from God? none, except demons. So a born again believer has an interesting position in God.
Hebrews 2:14-16 says, “Inasmuch then as the children have partaken of flesh and blood, He Himself likewise shared in the same, that through death He might destroy him who had the power of death, that is, the devil, and release those who through fear of death were all their lifetime subject to bondage. For indeed He does not give aid to angels, but He does give aid to the seed of Abraham.”
So how is healing really achieved? By faith, and that faith comes from hearing and hearing by the word of God. Hearing is not just reading the bible, it is the rhema or the spoken word of God. At some point as you focus on God hear from Him and it is that hearing that helps bring healing. One could make the case that Paul's thorn was a denial of healing but it is unknown for certain what that thorn was plus Paul was humbled because of the great revelation he was receiving so that really should not apply to many of us. I will admit too that some healings require miracles, like the blind being able to see. Angels are present in some healings. One of my former pastors relays a story where his wife saw the angel come into the room and touch the pastor, bringing him healing. But the angel was the messenger, it was God responding to a man's faith that caused the healing.
In short, it is good to respect angels but why not just go to the top and learn about Jesus and the authority and faith that can come from Him and the word of God? Who as a man, lower than Satan openly showed that he could defeat Satan as a man. And having done that raised man to a position that was higher than angels.
Of course no man has all knowledge in this but I am glad you have veered from this woman and will begin to mature in the things of God. In any given instance, you yourself can achieve faith for almost anything as you seek and God gives that to you. Unlike many contemporaries though you can't just claim it, demand it or even work for it without God giving the increase. What you can do is throw yourself at the feet of Jesus and learn what He is going to teach you. Take that mustard seed of faith and bring it to a full grown tree in the areas of your life that Jesus wants to touch, which includes physical healing. God bless you on your journey.
God says always test the spirits if a spirit does not confess Jesus as come in the flesh and being God risen from the dead they are false, all according to the bible
 
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Thank you Gregory. i cannot help but feel absolute anger of being taken advantage of. i almost considered signing up for her $4,500 package in the last link I posted in reply. i know in the scripture i recall there being warnings about people like this. but how can we prevent others from falling for this and giving so much money for soemthing so false...

thanks again I am going to write that passage down into my diary
they are decieved and many times possessed. me myself almost went with a medium possessed by an engyptian fallen angel! sure she knew stuff but to what price!

John ramirez former satanist is another good one born again christian
 
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hi everyone, I know there are topics on healing but mine is about angelic healing

I apologize if I misspeak of anything and that is why I am here to post to receive wisdom/correction

First I understand that angels are messengers of god and carry out his direct commands as depicted in Psalms 103:20

I feel at times I feel the voice of God but I can't say I have any perceived interaction with Angels

So that got me wondering and researching as i am in need of a place of healing, i got interested in this

with someone nearby. but now i have more questions than answers after meeting her.


are people able to channel / talk to angels? why does it cost $300 or even $4,500 for her comprehensive angel channeling package? why doesnt the church preach about this or have people like this? how has angels reached you in your lives, and the church? i am here to seek understanding not question faith, i would love to learn more to enrich my faith and truth :)
there are healing ministries, as well as catholic ones, and sites, one good place Medogourje. (proably pronounced wrong) Herze govina
there are also relic tours with Fr Carlos Martins going on where people have experienced healing

then there are christians that pray for people and put hands on.
Be careful sista hugs
 
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That doesn't look Christian at all.

It's either 2 things:
the person is a conman
or
the person will interact w/ the supernatural & you will end up being worse off in the long-run

This person is trying to make $$$ by promising you a supernatural miracle from God. The Bible would call it witchcraft.

This isn't how God works. He's more interested in making you holy. He has sent his angels to do that. Also not only are angels messengers, they are warriors to protect us from wickedness
I have heard how people have developed all kinds of health issues, misfortune etc after going to these people if they don`t get spiritual problems. because the devil always come to collect. he has gifts, but they cost.
 
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Yes, a Psychic may be practicing a form of witchcraft and divination, or, as others have said, is just conning people.

[Lev 19:26 NIV] 26 " 'Do not eat any meat with the blood still in it. " 'Do not practice divination or seek omens.

[2Ch 33:6 NIV] 6 He sacrificed his children in the fire in the Valley of Ben Hinnom, practiced divination and witchcraft, sought omens, and consulted mediums and spiritists. He did much evil in the eyes of the LORD, arousing his anger.

[Gal 5:19-20 NIV] 19 The acts of the flesh are obvious: sexual immorality, impurity and debauchery; 20 idolatry and witchcraft; hatred, discord, jealousy, fits of rage, selfish ambition, dissensions, factions
Also it say in the bible, the dead don`t know anything. and Jesus warned about judgement and hell. SO, WHAT are they really talking to!
 
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hi everyone, I know there are topics on healing but mine is about angelic healing

I apologize if I misspeak of anything and that is why I am here to post to receive wisdom/correction

First I understand that angels are messengers of god and carry out his direct commands as depicted in Psalms 103:20

I feel at times I feel the voice of God but I can't say I have any perceived interaction with Angels

So that got me wondering and researching as i am in need of a place of healing, i got interested in this

with someone nearby. but now i have more questions than answers after meeting her.


are people able to channel / talk to angels? why does it cost $300 or even $4,500 for her comprehensive angel channeling package? why doesnt the church preach about this or have people like this? how has angels reached you in your lives, and the church? i am here to seek understanding not question faith, i would love to learn more to enrich my faith and truth :)

Don't confuse Angels for the Holy Spirit.

The Holy Spirit alone healed me of some of my disease and made me young again. In my mid forties, it made me look like in mid twenties, my whole body, face, skin, bone, and all without a single medical intervention.

We're not supposed to address the angels.

If you're desperate for healing, all you need is the Holy Spirit and changing your ways and beliefs (repenting of old ways or the corrupt ways of this world).
 
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