Another look at the moon landing.

[trophy33]

They can't be really, can they ?

It does not matter. What matters is that your claims are not truth.

 

[Strong in Him]

Thats because I know it is the truth & nothing will sway me from the truth.

Hold firm to your belief by all means - but it's not the truth.

There are many, many photos, interviews, articles, film clips etc which show that people landed on the moon - you do realise that 1969 wasn't the only moon landing, I hope?
The ONLY thing you have to counter those things is "lies, fake".
That's it. You can't appeal to the Bible because, obviously, they're not in there. You have produced nothing which says that it was a hoax. You seem to think that space doesn't exist, so presumably ALL space exploration was/is faked - including those people who lost their lives? No doubt they were in hiding somewhere; watching their kids grow up without them.
You will learn the truth about the moon landings one day. But luckily for you, there is no boasting in heaven so no one will be able to say "we told you so."

 

[Strong in Him]

The flat earth, the moon landings are not in the Bible just this;

King James Bible
O Timothy, keep that which is committed to thy trust, avoiding profane and vain babblings, and oppositions of science falsely so called:

Firstly, you have found ONE verse which "mentions" science - in the KJV, I don't know about anywhere else and you seem to be building a doctrine on it.
Secondly, whether or not a scientific theory/statement is true depends on whether or not it can be proved. If it can, and you are insisting it is wrong, then it is you who would be opposing science.

If there was a debate on the subject, and the statement was "this house believes that men have walked on the moon", those speaking in favour of the motion would have access to, and would probably produce, photos, articles, interviews etc. Those speaking against would only be able to say, "they were faked. Everything that my colleagues have just told you is a lie".
When challenged, all they could say would be "because I say so/because it was/because that is my firm belief."
It's very likely that would convince no one and the motion would be rejected.

 

[Apple Sky]

Hold firm to your belief by all means - but it's not the truth.

There are many, many photos, interviews, articles, film clips etc which show that people landed on the moon - you do realise that 1969 wasn't the only moon landing, I hope?
The ONLY thing you have to counter those things is "lies, fake".
That's it. You can't appeal to the Bible because, obviously, they're not in there. You have produced nothing which says that it was a hoax. You seem to think that space doesn't exist, so presumably ALL space exploration was/is faked - including those people who lost their lives? No doubt they were in hiding somewhere; watching their kids grow up without them.
You will learn the truth about the moon landings one day. But luckily for you, there is no boasting in heaven so no one will be able to say "we told you so."

For one it's impossible for rockets to get through the firmament & two God wont allow it.

 

[Strong in Him]

For one it's impossible for rockets to get through the firmament & two God wont allow it.

Why won't God "allow it"?

 

[Apple Sky]

Why won't God "allow it"?

Remember The Tower of Babel ?

 

[Strong in Him]

Remember The Tower of Babel ?

That's got nothing to do with getting to the moon.

Read the text; "let us make a tower that reaches to the heavens so that we might make a name for ourselves." If they wanted to "get to the heavens", they wanted to be like God.
This was how Lucifer got chucked out of heaven; he tried to rebel against, and become greater than, God.
This was why Herod got eaten by worms; the people were claiming he was a god, he accepted their praise and did not try to correct them.
People tried to stone Jesus for claiming to be God, (even though he was.)

There is no suggestion that the astronauts believed God lived on the moon and by going there, they would be like God.

 

[Apple Sky]

There is no suggestion that the astronauts believed God lived on the moon and by going there, they would be like God.

I know this, but why did they build the tower in the first place ? But there's still the fact that rockets can't get through the firmament, not unless they nuked a hole in it during 'Operation Fishbowl'.

 

[Strong in Him]

I know this, but why did they build the tower in the first place ? But there's still the fact that rockets can't get through the firmament, not unless they nuked a hole in it during 'Operation Fishbowl'.

You're talking as though the firmament - whatever that is - is made of stainless steel.

Mind you, it makes as much sense as Antarctica being a wall of ice around a flat, disc shaped earth.

 

[Apple Sky]

You're talking as though the firmament - whatever that is - is made of stainless steel.

No it's made of clear crystal, maybe ice.
This is what the rockets would crash into if they tried to get into the heavens or rather their supposed space

King James Bible
And there fell upon men a great hail out of heaven, every stone about the weight of a talent: and men blasphemed God because of the plague of the hail; for the plague thereof was exceeding great. Rev 16:21

Mind you, it makes as much sense as Antarctica being a wall of ice around a flat, disc shaped earth.

KJV
And said, Hitherto shalt thou come, but no further: and here shall thy proud waves be stayed?

King James Bible
When he gave to the sea his decree, that the waters should not pass his commandment: when he appointed the foundations of the earth:

 

[Apple Sky]

TRUTH: « We are the Guardians of Humanity and our Light Obliterates the darkness of evil, and Treason, Always » - We are Human Species and now we are Striking Back - Spring of 2024 #STORM - Beyond Biblical

 

[imsaneru]

Apple Sky

TRUTH: « We are the Guardians of Humanity and our Light Obliterates the darkness of evil, and Treason, Always » - We are Human Species and now we are Striking Back - Spring of 2024 #STORM - Beyond Biblical

I'm still wondering how real this vid is , i'm just not one hundred percent convinced that it is real.
Pascal Najadi is the man who put the vid together and in one of his other vids he is claiming that he is JFK returned and that JFK was never killed.

And in other vids he says the globalists including the royal family are not human , and he points his finger to the sky and says they are from out there.

So I wouldn't be putting too much faith in this particular vid to try and prove anything.

 

[prodromos]

And you know this because ?????????

Rockets 1 and 2 show no evidence of hitting anything, in fact you can't even tell what the rocket 2 footage actually is at all. Pretty much all model rockets have a parachute ejection charge which ignites after a short delay after the rocket fuel is exhausted.

Rockets 3 and 4 are both using spin stabilisation during launch which requires using what is called "yo yo despin" to stop the rocket spinning to get clear video footage when the rocket reaches the peak of its flight. Small weights on tethers are released which stops the spin in the same way a figure skater does by flinging their arms wide. If the rockets actually hit something then the rocket body would have gone sideways. It doesn't, because it is still gliding upwards on its momentum.

Rocket 5 looks to me like it reached an altitude where the sun was visible causing the Rocket exhaust to be illuminated, and it was just at the point where the boosters separated from the Rocket which then continued into low earth orbit. Assuming it was SpaceX launching, the boosters have short bursts of thrust after separation to reorient for their descent.

It doesn't help that there are no references to the rockets or the date and time they were launched. There is no examination of the amateur rockets after their recovery (it was recorded footage, not transmitted), which would have obvious damage if they actually hit something. Aircraft crashing into water are completely destroyed and these rockets are travelling much faster than Aircraft, so it is plainly obvious that the claims made on the video about hitting a firmament are complete falsehood. The other obvious fail on this video is that the various rockets are at vastly different altitudes when they supposedly hit the firmament

 

[Apple Sky]

so it is plainly obvious that the claims made on the video about hitting a firmament are complete falsehood.

I don't think so, also I've read up about why rockets arch over instead of going straight up & i'm sorry to say it's all a load of bunk.
There are no rockets that have been to space as they can't get through the firmament, this is how I know that they have never landed on the moon via Genesis I +.
Start having more faith in God's word instead of NASA's

 

[trophy33]

I don't think so, also I've read up about why rockets arch over instead of going straight up & i'm sorry to say it's all a load of bunk.

Because we are on a globe and not on a flat disc, it makes all the sense for a rocket to follow a curved path, if they want to get to the orbit - because the Earth is curved, too.

They could go straight up and then return to orbit, but it would take much more fuel and maneuvering. The curved path is the simplest path.

 

[trophy33]

Start having more faith in God's word instead of NASA's

God says nothing about what path should a rocket take.

And its not just NASA, but all other rockets all over the world do the same thing, because its the most effective trajectory.

 

[Apple Sky]

Because we are on a globe and not on a flat disc, it makes all the sense for a rocket to follow a curved path, if they want to get to the orbit - because the Earth is curved, too.

No the earth is not curved & the rockets could go straight up if they wanted to but alas they would end up in bits.

All these rockets that arch over end up in the sea somewhere.

 

[Apple Sky]

God says nothing about what path should a rocket take.

To understand why they can't go to the moon read Genesis 1+

 

[trophy33]

the rockets could go straight up if they wanted to but alas they would end up in bits.

Just think a bit. If you want to get to the orbit, i.e. to fly around a sphere, the simplest path is the curved one, not straight up.

 

[trophy33]

To understand why they can't go to the moon read Genesis 1+

Why? Genesis 1 authors had no idea what the moon even is. If you arrived to the bronze age people in a helicopter and showed them your smart phone they would probably think you are a god or an angel. Their knowledge was nowhere near to ours.