Another look at the moon landing.

[Strong in Him]

But like I said, now I truly believe that nobody has walked on the moon, no not one & I don't care what anyone says, all astronauts are Freemason's.

So you don't care about evidence, the truth etc, only about your own ideas.

Well all I can say is "good luck with telling God that one of his children is a Freemason and liar."
Charles Duke has confessed and received Jesus as Saviour and Lord - like it or not, in God's eyes he is equal with you.

 

[Apple Sky]

So you don't care about evidence, the truth etc, only about your own ideas.

I care very much about the truth, why do you think I'm here & they are not ideas, this all boils down to logic & not living in Never Never land as you all seem to be doing right now.

 

[Strong in Him]

I care very much about the truth,

Only your truth.
You "don't care what anyone says", your belief is that all astronauts are Freemasons.
You can't/won't answer the questions;
Was Charles lying when he said, "Either Jesus' claim to be the Way, the Truth and the Life is true or it's the biggest con in history"?
Was he lying when he said that his wife was on the verge of suicide and had tried everything - except Jesus?

You can't admit that he was telling the truth because that would mean accepting the photographs taken from the moon/space which show the earth to be a globe.
That would finish your beliefs.
It has nothing whatsoever to do with Christianity and salvation and is not important. But your beliefs would be shattered if you admitted that Charles was telling the truth and the moon landings happened.

 

[Apple Sky]

Was he lying when he said that his wife was on the verge of suicide and had tried everything - except Jesus?

No - But maybe Jesus was his last resort & don't forget this was whey after he had supposedly walked on the the moon and his love for money & the debt he had accumulated.
I'm under the impression that many of these astronauts have signed some sort of NDA form & if they speak out it's the chop for them and their families.

You can't admit that he was telling the truth because that would mean accepting the photographs taken from the moon/space which show the earth to be a globe.
That would finish your beliefs.
It has nothing whatsoever to do with Christianity and salvation and is not important. But your beliefs would be shattered if you admitted that Charles was telling the truth and the moon landings happened.

Absolute rubbish, try again .........

 

[prodromos]

You say the following:

I'm under the impression that many of these astronauts have signed some sort of NDA form & if they speak out it's the chop for them and their families.

and then you immediately sum up your own claims with the following:

Absolute rubbish, try again .........

I could not agree more with this sentiment. It describes all your posts on this topic.

 

[Strong in Him]

Absolute rubbish, try again .........

It's not absolute rubbish.
But I'm not "trying again" because I've had it.

I have wasted far too much time on this nonsense - mistakenly believing that you might actually be open to serious debate.
You aren't.
When asked whether or not Charles Duke was being truthful in his testimony, you didn't answer but changed the subject.
When pushed for an answer, your response was "I don't care what anyone says the astronauts were Freemasons."
That's it - you don't care unless someone believes the same things that you do. Everyone's a liar except you.

So I don't care either. Slag off other Christians all you want - and then you'll be on your own before God trying to justify why you did that.
There are many positive, and uplifting things that I can be doing for God.
This thread is not one of them.

Have fun

 

[Kathleen30]

For anyone interested, here's the official NASA report on what happened to the Apollo 11 telemetry data and why it isn't available anymore (spoiler: the tapes were recycled in the 1970s). https://www.nasa.gov/wp-content/uploads/static/history/alsj/a11/Apollo_11_TV_Tapes_Report.pdf

And here's the Australian Honeysuckle Creek site that is referenced a lot in the document above. A Tribute to Honeysuckle Creek Tracking Station

And a direct link to the Apollo 11 TV pages: Apollo 11 TV

Enjoy.

Herman me did read the 17 page document with retirees from Australia pushed back into active service in pursuit of the missing Apollo 11 data From the searches through the Parkes Observatory and honeysuckle creek along with the Australian Archives and news media they did recover a news reel of the Apollo landings but nothing of the originals. As seems all the reels from Australia were sent back to NASA not long after the event. And so for the next 8 yrs searching with NASA through many climatic leads that always seemed to always end in rather unclimatic dead ends in pursuit for the reels. It was than discovered with further research that NASA had decided to recycle the reels due to a shortage in supply of that particular reel in the 80 ‘s. Even if was a national treasure they had just destroyed. There certainly wasn’t much forethought put into the decision or maybe there was. Thank you for insight it pretty well backs up what others have said NASA destroyed the reels themselves

 

[Apple Sky]

There are many positive, and uplifting things that I can be doing for God.
This thread is not one of them.

Me too.

Bye bye to all & God bless.

 

[Kathleen30]

Kathleen said:
Strong in him you have this notion in your head that Christians do not lie. You ask is it not feasible that he’s telling the truth about the moon and what he says about Jesus is true too Stong in him Kenneth Copeland sprouts the same truth about Jesus all the time even if he is a conman like many other televangelists. You have to think outside the box . Just because person claims to be a Christian doesn't mean they are so, just because a person is a Christian doesn't mean they can’t lie. Does it not seem feasible that astronauts can lie too ???

@Kathleen30 & @Strong in Him

Kathleen - For some reason it won't let me reply to to your last post.

You are right in what you say about Kenneth Copeland & just because a person is a Christian doesn't mean they can't lie.
Your post - Very well said.

Apple I not sure why it not allow you. But I did accidentally post two of Strong in him replies together. Maybe that had something to do with it. And thank you for the thoughtful reply ✅

 

[Kathleen30]

Charles became a Christian, after he went to and walked on, the moon.


Yes. Your answer is .........?

Kenneth Copeland believes in Jesus and teaches Jesus.
He is not correct when he teaches the prosperity Gospel, but that does not mean he lies about Jesus being his Saviour.

If Charles Duke is lying when he says "I walked on the moon", then he is also lying when he says that writes about Jesus, his Saviour and says that meeting Jesus was the best part of his life.

Why?
Charles either lied about walking in the moon and is lying about Jesus - in which case you'd expect God to punish him.
Or he is telling the truth about both.


Have you heard Charles' testimony - of how he was going through a difficult time with trouble in his marriage, and then he met Jesus? They had been a "religious" family for a while, but they didn't know Jesus. In 1975 his wife was on the verge of suicide.
Watch it, if you dare.

If you can't bear to watch the factual stuff about the moon, start it at 31 minutes in.

Even @Apple Sky has watched it, said that she honestly believed it and it briefly changed her life. (Until she changed her mind again.)

We are not talking about a one time, off the cuff lie to try to impress a friend or get out of a difficult situation. We are talking about a public testimony and Christian preaching ministry. He has been, and maybe still is, invited to churches. It's possible that unbelievers come to Christ when they hear his testimony.

When Charles heard the words, "Jesus said 'I am the Way, the Truth and the Life, no one comes to the Father except by me'," he said to himself, "either that's the truth or the biggest con in history".
What do you say - was he lying?

Strong in him yes me have watched the video of Charlie Duke some months ago. As far as I know Charlie had always been church oriented and than he had some type of born again experience along with his wife. As to Kenneth Copland being a Christian . I just roll my eyes. I mean he’s been milking and fleecing the Lords people like forever. One thing you be right about is the falseness of the prosperity gospel. Yet you still claim Kenneth be a Christian. We again disagree. And as to Charlie Duke.. Strong in him you seem infatuated with this guy you seem determined to have your way with me and anyone else who disagrees. Come the year 2027 and if the coming space flight to the moon is postponed again for a number of years . I’ll be calling the whole lot of them liars . Ok. Now me must prepare for the new day . God bless until our next chat

 

[d taylor]

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Deceptive balderdash

 

[Apple Sky]

And as to Charlie Duke.. Strong in him you seem infatuated with this guy you seem determined to have your way with me and anyone else who disagrees. Come the year 2027 and if the coming space flight to the moon is postponed again for a number of years . I’ll be calling the whole lot of them liars

Don't bother with her she just wants all the moon deniers banned like she once did to me once.
My first warning was b/c I posted 'Bla bla bla' I can't remember what the 2nd warning was for, I think it was for calling Charles Duke a liar but the 3rd warning was for calling Buzz Aldrin a liar which she reported me for, I got banned for a whole month.

To be warned is to be forearmed.

 

[Kathleen30]

Don't bother with her she just wants all the moon deniers banned like she once did to me once.
My first warning was b/c I posted 'Bla bla bla' I can't remember what the 2nd warning was for, I think it was for calling Charles Duke a liar but the 3rd warning was for calling Buzz Aldrin a liar which she reported me for, I got banned for a whole month.

To be warned is to be forearmed.

Apple thank you for your advice . As far I’m concerned the Bible tells us the whole world lies in darkness and deceptions, it be where liars abound. More so than the righteous . You have the right to question everyone and everything. There be no in betweens. The astronauts either landed on moon or they didn’t. I can’t see how anyway can avoid that question. You certainly should never have been banned for expressing your thoughts.. wishing you a nice morning in your UK

 

[David Lamb]

But like I said, now I truly believe that nobody has walked on the moon, no not one & I don't care what anyone says, all astronauts are Freemason's.

All astronauts are not Freemasons. You make the statement that they are without a shred of evidence. I imagine that, like the rest of the population, some of the astronauts are Freemasons, and many are not.

 

[Aaron112]

"It is accurate that some astronauts have been Freemasons, while the vast majority have not. Historical records confirm that several prominent NASA astronauts were members of Freemasonry, including Buzz Aldrin, John Glenn, Gus Grissom, Gordon Cooper, Donn Eisele, Fred Haise, Edgar Mitchell, Wally Schirra, Thomas Stafford, James Webb, and Paul Weitz. Buzz Aldrin, the second person to walk on the Moon, was a member of Clear Lake Lodge No. 1417, AF&AM, and carried a handmade Scottish Rite Masonic flag to the Moon during the Apollo 11 mission. Gordon Cooper also carried a 33rd Degree Jewel and a Scottish Rite flag during his Gemini V flight.
However, the claim that many or most astronauts are Freemasons is not supported by evidence. Out of approximately 338 NASA astronauts, only around ten are known to have been Freemasons, representing roughly 2.95% of the total. This percentage is not significantly higher than the general population's Freemason membership rate in the United States during the mid-20th century. Furthermore, many of the astronauts who were Freemasons were part of the early space program, and their membership was not a requirement for selection. The idea that a large number of astronauts are Freemasons is often perpetuated by conspiracy theories, which also incorrectly claim that all Apollo moonwalkers were Freemasons—this is false, as only three of the 12 men who walked on the Moon were members. Therefore, while some astronauts have been Freemasons, the statement that "many are not" is correct and reflects the actual demographic distribution.
AI-generated answer. Please verify critical facts."

 

[David Lamb]

Don't bother with her she just wants all the moon deniers banned like she once did to me once.
My first warning was b/c I posted 'Bla bla bla' I can't remember what the 2nd warning was for, I think it was for calling Charles Duke a liar but the 3rd warning was for calling Buzz Aldrin a liar which she reported me for, I got banned for a whole month.

To be warned is to be forearmed.

If you mean Strong in Him, as far as I am aware, she is not moderator, and not in a position to ban anybody. Like all of us, she can report posts - whether she ever reported any of yours, I have no idea, but she couldn't as far as I know, ban you.

 

[Aaron112]

You make the statement that they are without a shred of evidence.

Well, this is true of a great deal of threads and posts by any/all members/visitors on any? forum ?

Has apple sky shown any credibility or substance or maturity or even just plain truth , ever ? I have not seen nor do I know .... Is he/she a young child, or perhaps has dementia, or a victim of religious deception all their life ?

 

[Aaron112]

but she couldn't as far as I know, ban you.

perhaps , perhaps not, perhaps yea...... it used to be (and remained?) that various cliches could and did arrange things (secretly behind closed doors so to speak -- anonymitgy as they pleased, for no true reason at all known, simply because they could.)

 

[Aaron112]

As far I’m concerned the Bible tells us the whole world lies in darkness and deceptions, it be where liars abound. More so than the righteous . You have the right to question everyone and everything. There be no in betweens. The astronauts either landed on moon or they didn’t. I can’t see how anyway can avoid that question.

question? what question? haha......

astroknots, true or false, come and go, and no one knows for sure , really, because liars abound more (way way way more) than the righteous) even on 'church' sites..... ouy vey

 

[Kathleen30]

All astronauts are not Freemasons. You make the statement that they are without a shred of evidence. I imagine that, like the rest of the population, some of the astronauts are Freemasons, and many are not.

Not all but some certainly are. And there also be the whole administration to consider there certainly be Freemasons in most levels of all secular administrations and religious ones too