"...And your Lord is never forgetful..."

[Masihi]

source: Egypt at 'dangerous stalemate' in political crisis | Reuters

Egypt at 'dangerous stalemate' in political crisis
By Shadia Nasralla and Angus MacSwan

CAIRO | Wed Aug 7, 2013 5:40pm EDT
(Reuters) - Egypt's political crisis entered a tense phase on Wednesday after international mediation efforts collapsed and the army-installed government repeated its threat to take action against supporters of deposed President Mohamed Mursi.
Both sides called their supporters on to the streets on Thursday, while Mursi supporters in two protest camps in Cairo strengthened sandbag-and-brick barricades in readiness for any action by security forces.
Acting President Adli Mansour, in a message on the eve of the Muslim Eid al-Fitr holiday, said Egypt was in critical circumstances. The interim government would press on with its own plan to hold new elections in nine months, he said.
"The train of the future has departed, and everyone must realize the moment and catch up with it, and whoever fails to realize this moment must take responsibility for their decision," he said.
Interim Prime Minister Hazem el-Beblawi said the government's decision to dismantle the protest camps was final and its patience had nearly expired.
Beblawi accused protesters of inciting violence, blocking roads and detaining citizens, and he warned that any further violence would be met "with utmost force and decisiveness."
People should leave the camps now, Beblawi said.






source: Muslim Brotherhood accused of using children as pawns | GulfNews.com

Muslim Brotherhood accused of using children as pawns
Some pro-Mursi supporters have said they are ready to offer their children as ‘martyrs’
By Ayman Sharaf, Special to Gulf NewsPublished: 14:19 August 8, 2013

Now, in the Raba’a Al Adawiya sit-ins, Islamist supporters of ousted President Mohammad Mursi are doing the same — but with a twist.
“Mothers say they know their children could be in harm’s way but they believe their cause is worth fighting and dying for,” according to Wael Khalil, a veteran activist who advocated for the ouster of Mursi and of Hosni Mubarak in 2011.
More shocking was footage that has emerged of Egyptian children being dressed in white “death shrouds” in preparation for their “martyrdom” by pro-Mursi families in a large demonstration at Raba’a Al Adawiya last week.
The children were heard chanting pre-rehearsed lines and were seen carrying posters that read “I am ready to [become a] martyr!” during a short march.
“As I saw the face of a five-year-old carrying his coffin and innocently smiling out of happiness because he’s participating along with other children in a big game, I felt disgusted. These people are willing to murder children in order to make political gains,” said Azza Al Ashmawi, director of the Child Anti-Trafficking Unit at the National Council for Childhood and Motherhood NCCM.
“This is a cruel picture that the Brotherhood thought would help them gain global sympathy as the world watches”, Azza added.
“We are willing to offer more martyrs to our cause. We will not hesitate to sacrifice our children as martyrs in order to restore Egypt’s Mohammad Mursi,” said a female Brotherhood leader during the funerals of three women who were killed in a protest in Al Mansoura last month.
Azza considered these children’s parents as either brainwashed by the Brotherhood’s leadership or convinced that their children will go to heaven or paid for allowing their children to participate in the protest.
More dangerous is that some orphanages affiliated to the Brotherhood involved orphans in this battle, according to a statement issued by the Interior Ministry two days before. The statement accused the Brotherhood of committing a criminal violation of human rights.
“Although they are the ones pushing them to the front rows of clashes, the Brotherhood aims to exploit the injury of children and market it to the world public opinion as an aggression against children,” the statement reads.
Witnesses confirm that Raba’a Al Adawiya’s protesters are exploiting children, using them to collect and break rocks in order to use them in clashes against the army, the police and their opponents.

Thank you for showing us the other side of the coin. Didn't see this from the OP who has been very one-sided.

 

[LoveBeingAMuslimah]

I think we will have to agree to disagree. Bassem Youssef should have done more to condemn the coup and the crimes it committed, I agree. Although by mocking the support for the military by some people, he obviously was challenging people those who are behind Sissi to think and question their stance.

Not only did he NOT condemn the coup, he refused to call it a coup in the beginning. Fat load of good it does now. The damage has been done. And in the beginning days of the coup he had the audacity to say that the Muslim Brotherhood is sending people to die for the cause so as to seem like victims to the world. He called the Muslim Brotherhood nazis but all he could muster up the strength for when 50 anti-coup protesters were killed was, "Enough." And he has never even apologized for his part in the coup. If he had at least said that, then maybe I would respect him a little more.

In short, he was a jackass and I'm glad that the pro-coup people have bitten the hand that fed them (i.e. one of the people spewing anti-Morsi propaganda to rile up the pro-coup protesters). All of these treacherous people deserve each other, from Bassem Youssef to the Nour party to the Coptic Church to the Imam of al-Azhar to the military and police that they all supported.

I think that by labeling the new government as "pharaohs" and describing support for it as "fascism", he also spoke out against it. This was the first episode he put on since the coup on his tv station. We have no idea how much more he would have said had he not been shut down.

We know what he said on twitter. He said #not_a_coup

Also, he was not shut down. They apparently wanted to start airing the show after Ramadhaan and 'Eid al-Adha.

Taking on a more serious tone at the end of the episode, Youssef – who was called in by Morsi-appointed general prosecutor Talaat Abdullah during Morsi's tenure on charges of insulting the president – stated "I am not with the [Islamists], who attacked us and declared us apostates ... and publicly called for our imprisonment."
"At the same time, I am not with hypocrisy, deification of individuals and creation of pharaohs," he went on. "We are afraid that fascism in the name of religion will be replaced with fascism in the name of nationalism," Youssef added, expressing concern over the possible suppression of free media during the transitional period.

Oh, wow, Bassem, that helps so much AFTER you supported the coup & refused to call it as such. Maybe you should've thought about that before you endorsed the pro-coup view in the beginning. You reap what you sow.

This is not the first time for CBC to suspend Youssef's show. In 2012, the channel suspended the first season's second episode, during which Youssef made fun of both famous CBC presenters as well as then-president Mohamed Morsi. Youssef later broadcasted the episode on YouTube.

http://english.ahram.org.eg/NewsCon...ussefs-TV-show-ElBernameg-suspended-CBC-.aspx

Interestingly, Bassem Youssef's show was shut down under Morsi also.

Some people from the public wanted to take him to court but all charges were dropped. His show was never canceled indefinitely to the best of my knowledge.

I think we agree on more than we disagree. I believe that the military's crimes and the bloodshed it perpetrates are far more massive than the killings of some demonstrators under Morsi. I condemn them and have written letters to my leaders urging them to cut off support for the junta. You have condemned burnings of the churches in Egypt as well as attacks on Christians there, which I appreciate and respect you doing.

Agreed.

I do not believe the Muslim Brotherhood are as evil as portrayed by the murderous junta and its supporters. I also do not believe they are as innocent as you portray them to be.

Just like what I believe of the Copts.

 

[MehGuy]

Thank you for showing us the other side of the coin. Didn't see this from the OP who has been very one-sided.

I see you have the new acid face dame of the month posted on your avy

Lookin nice..

 

[kenzo0]

VERY VALID POINT.. thanks for this

not for our sister, Lovebeingmuslimah..for she can't/refuse to see the truth..
in her sight, those men are not Muslims, although they are embrace Islam, and just follow what their holy book said about intercourse with women..

 

[kenzo0]

Thank you for showing us the other side of the coin. Didn't see this from the OP who has been very one-sided.

you're very welcome

ordinary Muslims,
although their holy book content terror and violence command and instruction, they will never see it from another angle, they will keep insist that the terror and the violence are the kindness of God

 

[TG123]

Not only did he NOT condemn the coup, he refused to call it a coup in the beginning. Fat load of good it does now. The damage has been done. And in the beginning days of the coup he had the audacity to say that the Muslim Brotherhood is sending people to die for the cause so as to seem like victims to the world. He called the Muslim Brotherhood nazis but all he could muster up the strength for when 50 anti-coup protesters were killed was, "Enough." And he has never even apologized for his part in the coup. If he had at least said that, then maybe I would respect him a little more.

In short, he was a jackass and I'm glad that the pro-coup people have bitten the hand that fed them (i.e. one of the people spewing anti-Morsi propaganda to rile up the pro-coup protesters). All of these treacherous people deserve each other, from Bassem Youssef to the Nour party to the Coptic Church to the Imam of al-Azhar to the military and police that they all supported.



We know what he said on twitter. He said #not_a_coup

Also, he was not shut down. They apparently wanted to start airing the show after Ramadhaan and 'Eid al-Adha.

Oh, wow, Bassem, that helps so much AFTER you supported the coup & refused to call it as such. Maybe you should've thought about that before you endorsed the pro-coup view in the beginning. You reap what you sow.

Some people from the public wanted to take him to court but all charges were dropped. His show was never canceled indefinitely to the best of my knowledge.

Agreed.


Just like what I believe of the Copts.

You know what, after having read that he wrote "not a coup" on his Twitter account, I have lost a lot of respect for him also. Also, calling the Muslim Brotherhood "nazis" and only being able to say "enough" when the army was gunning people down shows he is either a coward or an idiot or supportive of murder... or all three.

I do not think Bassem Youssef did wrong because he mocked the Muslim Brotherhood while they were in power or because he mocked support for the military, but because he refused to condemn the crimes they were perpetrating.

Regarding the innocence of the Copts and the Muslim Brotherhood, this is a topic we will probably never agree on, so I think it is best we stop discussing it.

May God bring justice and peace to Egypt so one day it will be a country where all people, regardless of religious and political views, will be treated with justice and dignity and respect and where no one will be tortured or killed or have their home or place of worship burned down for a being either a Muslim Brotherhood member or a Coptic Christian.

 

[TG123]

Thank you for showing us the other side of the coin. Didn't see this from the OP who has been very one-sided.

Yeah, because being one-sided is something we never see from Masihi.

 

[LoveBeingAMuslimah]

"Police have killed two demonstrators and arrested 54 others during protests held across Egypt against the military-backed government, the country's Interior Ministry says."

"Since Morsi's removal by the military after just a year in office, authorities installed by the army have cracked down hard on protesters.

More than 1,000 people, most of them pro-Morsi, have been killed in what Human Rights Watch called the worst violence in Egypt's modern history, and thousands of Islamists and opposition leaders have been arrested."

Clashes during Egypt anti-military protests - Middle East - Al Jazeera English

What a shame. Allaah is sufficient for His believing slaves.

These seem to be pictures of the two protesters who were killed yesterday:

Belal Badawi, a 19 year-old student, died after being shot in the chest and shoulder yesterday.

Muhammad al-Sharqawi, another student, was killed by a shot to the stomach.


May Allaah grant all those Muslims killed protesting the coup the highest level of Paradise. Ameen.

 

[LoveBeingAMuslimah]

 

[Galilee63]

At the end of the day...for all Souls ie God's Children...He is the 'Just Judge' in each Soul's journey and at the end of their Earth 'Soul' journeys including myself.

Jesus can and will protect all of His Children if we stop, be still, be quiet, set our precious time aside, pray to Him for at least a couple of hours a day while focussing on His sacrifices and life while here on Earth, in order to, crack open our Hearts hardened by sins, to 'Receive' Jesus during Heartfelt prayer while repenting our sins, to communicate with Him and for Jesus to answer our prayers including the Middle East atrocities occurring and all other causes.

Merry Christmas and a happy New Year

 

[MrLuther]

The Egyptian military did, with the support of the people, what the Turkish military has done several times, and what the German military should have done in the 1930s, and I salute them.

Also, it's pretty silly to post something on a DEBATE forum (and the wrong part of the debate forum, mind you), and say: "I don't want to debate this"

 

[LoveBeingAMuslimah]

BBC News - Egypt's Muslim Brotherhood declared 'terrorist group'

lol. So very sad. I don't know if the anti-coup Egyptians will ever forgive the ones who supported the coup. I don't know if I'd be able to, if I was in their place.

 

[LoveBeingAMuslimah]

I rarely post about Syria since my heart breaks over and over again when reading about it (still trying to post more about it, though). But here is one of the less depressing pictures....still extremely disheartening but less so than others:

The ongoing #Syria'n tragedy. The same street in #Homs in 2011 and in 2014.

 

[LoveBeingAMuslimah]

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Authorities in Egypt have declared they will sentence anyone who posts this symbol on their Facebook page to five years in prison, according to Arabcrunch and Shorouk News.

Egyptian athletes expected to compete in the Olympics are also banned from flashing the four-fingered symbol, according to the country's sports minister.

The "Rabia" or "R4bia" symbol is a reference to the deaths of Muslim protestors in Rabia al-Adawiya Square. It is a symbol of support for the now-outlawed Muslim Brotherhood. Rabia means four or fourth in Arabic, and it sounds the same as the name of the mosque that became the center of pro-Muslim protests in 2012.

Read more: Egypt Ban On R4Bea Rabea Signs In Facebook - Business Insider
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[LoveBeingAMuslimah]

Since Egypt has banned people on Facebook from using the above symbol, people have come up with:

hahah

Illegitimate Egyptian government, you fail.

 

[TG123]

Since Egypt has banned people on Facebook from using the above symbol, people have come up with:

hahah

Illegitimate Egyptian government, you fail.

That is awesome.

Down with the tyrants!

 

[LoveBeingAMuslimah]

^It is!

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The person whose twitter I posted a picture (here - point 4) from was arrested back in late August which is why the link to the picture (it was of military officers dressed in civilian clothing) is no longer up. His twitter account was taken offline soon after his arrest.

Anyway, I know this is 5 months later, but better late than never, I guess:

Egyptian Military Crackdown Leads to Arrest of American Citizen | TIME.com

A few excerpts:

Soltan, 25, an Egyptian-American dual citizen with a bachelor’s degree in economics from the Ohio State University, was one of the media spokesmen for the huge camp in Cairo’s Rabaa al-Adawiya Square, where protesters called for the reinstatement of deposed President Mohamed Morsi. On Aug. 14, hours after security forces launched an operation to disperse the camp using bulldozers and live bullets, he was shot in the arm while speaking to a television news producer.

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Even though he feared arrest, Soltan said on Friday that he planned to participate in protest marches against the military-led government. He predicted a long-term battle to end military rule. “We’re going to go out in the streets,” he said, “if it takes us a month, two months, three months, a year, 10 years.”

Taken from the facebook page made in support for Mohamed Soltan:

 

[LoveBeingAMuslimah]

dp

 

[LoveBeingAMuslimah]

The trial has been adjourned until January 8th, 2014.

His second appearance was January 28th of this year. They put him in a soundproof cage:

"The installation of the cage, a novelty in Egyptian courts, underscored the extent of the effort by the new government to silence the former president and his fellow defendants, about 20 fellow leaders of the Muslim Brotherhood. It dominated the courtroom debate, with lawyers for the defendants arguing that it deprived the accused of their right to hear or participate in their own trial...."

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/01/29/world/middleeast/egypt-morsi-trial.html?_r=2

 

[Jane_the_Bane]

The muslim brotherhood outlawed belly dancing during their reign in Egypt.
That alone ought to tell you a lot about the regime, and why urban, well-cultured Egyptians were so opposed to their rule (while rural egypt is overwhelmingly mired in iron age morality).