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An Interesting View on Paganism

Smilin

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Boanerge said:
We can't forget the spirit, but thats another story, Havoc is close to it, but not close enough.

Havoc is on to something, with that Goddess concept. but if i speak what i know, people like Carico might slice me in half, not that s/he will, but s/he might.

wow, if only you guys knew... well some of you do.. i don't know if any of you are ready
Don't let her intimidate you..noone else does.
We are here to learn and grow from each other
and all viewpoints are welcomed. This IS the
Non-Christianity and Spirituality forum...and if
Carico can't honor and respect that...she is free
to leave. As for me, I'm here and willing to listen.

How much do you know? For many are blinded
to ancient truths which are possessed by so few
in this modern world.
 
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Smilin

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Boanerge said:
What the, who spoke of hating Jesus?
noone, that was an indrected accusation which
is a lie. Lying, or bearing false witness is a sin
in the Christian religion...no?


.. Your trying to murder with the Sword. But all you're doing is cutting them into tiny little peices, creating more and more of these people you claim are "atheists". wheres the Love?
Again, we're not atheists. And technically not 'Pagan',
that word developed by Christians as a generalization
for 'other than Christians'. Take time to know us
and you will understand.

Shaman i thank you for being the first to thank me into CF! i gave you 10 blessings lol, thats all i can give apparently.

how do you put "originally from:" in the Qoute bubbles?

Yes im still Christian! lol....
You are a tribute to your faith.
 
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As long as we are trapped inside our imperfect minds, we cannot know truth. Only when we are open to another viewpoint will we find the truth.

I was raised in a wonderulf family. Music reigned supreme in our family. There was all kinds of music, classical, jazz, rock, literature and fine arts. People from other cultures came over all the time. we discussed religion, philosphy, politics, history and music far into the night. People would literally come for dinner and stay 2 years. We counted 34 people who eventually lived at our house. Many people told us our family was just like the movie "You can't take it with you," and igt was written up in our town magazine as "a wonderful place to be."

I never went to church and neither did anyone else. My mother dabbled in Hinduism and so did I. I also studied Buddhism, Taoism, much psychology and almost no Christianity. None of these religions gave me the unconditional love that all of us are looking for from birth. They were nice ideas but didn't go anywhere. I certainly couldn't inherit eternal life from any of them. When i got older, my life began to fall apart. My mother got sick, my father died and my husband was having an affair. Everything that i had previously counted on was gone. It was then that i realized that none of us can count on anything in the world. A friend approached me about Christianity and i rebuffed her just like most people on this forum are rebuffing me. I hated her for it and i didn't want her God. I thought I had all the answers because I had studied so much. After I got divorced, i met another man who became abusive. He threatened to kill me many times. I was pregnant, depressed and broke. I still thought I had all the answers even thought they weren't doing me any good. Nevertheless, i was taught to rely on myself and there was no God. Finally when my life was at stake, I ran into my bedroom and locked my door. I had no more answers. I fell sobbing on my bed and begged a God i didn't know to help me. I felt as if someone had touched my back and said "everything will be ok. I felt heat rush from my neck to my toes. When i opened my eyes, the sun streamed in from the window. I sat up and the room was filled with light. I said, "no, you're not real. You're just a theology that someone picks like a political party. The thought tha came to me was "Come to me and i will give you rest." I knew instantly who he was. I went from being a stuanch atheist to a believer within 3 minutes. I ran out and bought the bible and God has NEVER let me down since. I now have money, a wonderful believing husband and everything i have ever wanted. Only when I admitted i had no answers was i then open to the truth. I had come to the end of myself. That is where we will find God. Not through our own answers.
 
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Pain? all I have is joy in me! I have committed my life to showing others that God is real. This entails confronting the rebellion that is in their hearts. Jesus's words were far harsher than mine in confronting people's rebellion. He simply told them they will be in the fires of hell because of their unbelief. He also convicted every one of us of sin. Even though I hated my friend for bring God's words to me, it is because of her love for me that she did that. I now consider her the best friend I've ever had because she didn't spare me the truth even though I hated her for it. I know how it feels to be "preached to". The arrogance of our human nautre resists it with every fiber of our being. That is why Jesus said the we will be hated because of Him. Nevertheless, His gift is the greatest gift given mankind and my life's passion is to pass it on to others even though they will hate me for it. It isn't easy because I've had to endure much ridicule and hear many words said against the man who died for humanity. But if there is even one true seeker here who benefits from something I say, then it will have been worth it. My friend confronted my sin of rebellion and I am so thankful that she did. I had the humility to listen to her and search my heart. We cannot come to God until we confront our sin of rebellion because we aren't receptive to His love. I'm not herre to win love for myself from anyone because what good will that do for others? I'm here to show that a loving God is there for anyone who wants it.
 
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I could go on for pages with horrors from my past, and how my bahavior should have put me six feet under. But instead, now I can go on for pages abundant with my blessings. Starting and finishing with husband and 2 children. And my relationship with the divine is what did it. But you wouldn't care in the least what my testimony was. You only care about yours.
 
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Freodin

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Carico: you have had bad experiences, and an experience that led you to believe in God.

But you have to accept that there are people out there who did not experience what you did - perhaps people who experienced things totally opposed to yours.

You have not lead the life of those people.
You have not had the experiences of those people.
You do not know what these people think, what they love or hate, what they believe.

So stop telling them that you do.

You don´t know me. You don´t know me heart nor my mind. You don´t know how many times I asked God for help, for a sign, for anything - and never received an answer.
You don´t know me. Stop telling me that I rebell against your idea of God.
 
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SqueezetheShaman said:
I could go on for pages with horrors from my past, and how my bahavior should have put me six feet under. But instead, now I can go on for pages abundant with my blessings. Starting and finishing with husband and 2 children. And my relationship with the divine is what did it. But you wouldn't care in the least what my testimony was. You only care about yours.
Agreed, and I won't bother with mine as well.
My three children destined to make their mark
in this world and my legacy I leave them is my
life's mission. I'll leave it at that.
As far as what I believe and how I got there, and
how I trod forward on my chosen path...I won't
bother posting either. I have no desire for you
to confront what you see in me (and others) as
rebellion.

(and you need to brush up on who Jesus gave
harsh words to...it WASN'T the unbelievers, it
was the Jewish leaders threatened by him)
 
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Carico said:
I have repeated Jesus's words. He was killed for them. I have not eualed his skill yet.
Wrong,
Standard Christian doctrine teaches that the crucifying
of Christ was pre-determined to make amends for
the sins of the human race. According to your Bible,
it was his blood, and only his blood that could cleanse
the human race of its' sins and be found acceptable
in 'God the Fathers' site again.

And I assert you've twisted Jesus's words.
 
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