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Of course, I have a blog post in the link below specifically on the Topic of Trinity in Seventh Day Adventism. I compare their fundamental belief to the Athanasian Creed.
https://actheologian.com/2016/06/27/the-lie-within-and-the-lie-without-the-holy-trinity/
Below is another post I did on the SDA Clear Word. This is more controversial, they claim it is not a "special bible" but they commissioned it, publish it, and sell it alongside other Bibles in the Adventist Book Center (ABC). It is helpful because you can see how they adjusted the verses of the Bible that teach the Trinity to match the teachings of Ellen White.
https://actheologian.com/2016/05/14/clear-word-vs-bible-doctrine-of-the-holy-trinity/
As for other details, SDA did start moving from a full blown Arian confession to one that is closer to the Trinity in 1946, that much is fair. They would only use the term "Godhead" but it was a step in the right direction. In 1980 they officially adopted the word "Trinity" but they still will not confess same substance or one being.
Below is a decent article I found for you that cites its sources:
http://www.cultorchristian.com/
What you have stated is a bunch of hooey!---This is what is believed---I really do not care what you, the Catholic church, or anyone else has to say on the subject for it is not in the bible exactly as you have worded it. WE BELIEVE IN ONE GOD ALONE, ONE GOD THE FATHER, THE SON AND THE HOLY GHOST. THEY ARE ONE---PERIOD. What we do not do is go into details that are not in the bible---like the word "substance"--do you know what "substance" means, where in the bible does it speak of the substance of God??---Point it out!! The closest you get is Jesus saying "GOD IS SPIRIT"
Joh_4:24 God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.
You tell you me what God is made of according to the bible!! How dare anyone define the undefinable!! God, the Holy Spirit, and the Son are ONE GOD. That is what the bible says! Jesus prayed to the Father, Jesus taught the disciples to pray to the Father, Jesus had to go in order for the Holy Spirit, the Comforter to come---IT IS NOT EXPLAINED IN DETAIL HOW THIS COMES ABOUT!!! It just is and I accept it on faith--anything else is pure speculation and unacceptable to me.
I was born and raised SDA--I left it as soon as I could and hated it and angry at God and wanted nothing to do with God or any religion---until God brought me to my knees and I came back to God---I did not want to come back to SDA--I looked into everything else---I came back to SDA for one reason and one reason alone----they were the most biblically correct. You can prove to me beyond a shadow of a doubt that EGW is a false prophet and it would change not one single thing about my believes!! Not on the Sabbath, not on the state of the dead, not on Jesus Christ being our High Priest now, not about there not being an everlasting burning hell, not on the Trinity---Not even about the health issues as it has ben proven in study after study that we are the longest lived and healthiest---so it is a question of health --not following Levitical laws just to obey some old laws. Good grief, there are more non-SDA's that are vegetarian and follow the health principles then there are SDA's!! You can turn you back on whatever you want---I will not turn my back on the bible. And that includes the Sabbath and there have been thread after thread on that subject much more thoroughly gone into than I am going to go into AGAIN~~As far as I am concerned--the Sabbath was instituted at Creation, that is what the bible says, and anyone can say it does not apply to us or to anyone but God all they want and it will not change my mind. It was kept by Jesus, He did not denounce it, there is nothing in the bible that says, from here on out we are not to keep the Sabbath any more than it says we are NOT keep any of the other 9 commandments. Obeying them will not get you into the presence of God-----not obeying them will keep you out. There is no unrepentant murderer that will enter heaven, nor liars nor thieves.
As for any other bible--I only read the accepted versions, I know nothing about the Clear Word and would not buy it any more than I by the Jefferson Bible, or the Catholic study bible, or the new one by the Church of God, or Joyce Myer, or any other of those denominational study bibles out there, including the new bible that is published as a study on the fundmental believes of the founding fathers of this nation, (I can't remember what they call it). Everybody and their mother has a study bible out there.
And for you information, the days of the wekk were named by God--day 1 through 7-any other names were named by man and named after pagan believes but those are the names thst everyone goes by now. There are those that call Sunday the 8th day, which also is not biblical--they can call the days whatever they want-the Sabbath is still the 7th day, the day of rest from Creation---you do what you want with that.
As for EGW being a "bit of a racist"--that too is hooey---she advocated antislavery including disobeying the laws about it and supporting the underground railroad. The statements about leadership and intermarriage and all that was simply to not hinder the spreading of the word of God and to not bring unhappyness to children of those marriages, which were considered black even if they looked white, not that it was a sin by any means. It was against the law in most states to intermarry.
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