An Empirical Theory Of God (2)

[GA777]

Sure there could be. In fact, there is.


Nope.


Not a coincidence, but chance, yes.

Can you show me proof than?And not bacterias or things alike,because such things are present in countless places,because God created humans on his own image and not bacterias and animals.

Yep.

chance, it would be 1 out of infinite possibilities which is very illogical.

 

[sandwiches]

Can you show me proof than?And not bacterias or things alike,because such things are present in countless places,because God created humans on his own image and not bacterias and animals.

I didn't see any evidence for your claim, so I see no reason to show evidence. That which is asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.

The truth is that I don't know whether life can form without some intelligence. However, I have a few problems with the whole intelligence creating life mainly because I see no sign of this intelligence that created life and because it would still not answer where life came from since that intelligence would also be a life.

Yep.

Nah.

change, it would be 1 in infinite possibilities which is very illogical.

You're doing math wrong. Look up probability first and then we can talk.

 

[GA777]

I didn't see any evidence for your claim, so I see no reason to show evidence. That which is asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.

The truth is that I don't know whether life can form without some intelligence. However, I have a few problems with the whole intelligence creating life mainly because I see no sign of this intelligence that created life and because it would still not answer where life came from since that intelligence would also be a life.


Nah.


You're doing math wrong. Look up probability first and then we can talk.

Where was yours in the present place?

Exactly.Look around you , for example humans need oxygen,they need air,they need land,they need a good climate , they need a sun,they need rivers and lakes,trees and vegetables,fruits and animals,a good pression,snow,rain,light,ozone,gravity,earth,wind,clouds,sea,oceans etc. etc.

I know the probabilities.There are billions and billions of them in the earth and universe alone,excluding the complexity of humans structure,which is much more complex and more sensitive.

 

[mzungu]

I think you're doing it right. Fortunately the universe I live in isn't cold, dark, empty or particularly hostile.

Humans can only survive unaided; within a few thousand metres from the surface of the Earth. In fact we live on the skin of 30% of the surface of a planet that a large percentage of that is hostile to human life (deserts including the Antarctic desert). The Earth is extremely lucky so far:

Space with Sam Neill Staying Alive part 1 of 3 - YouTube

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TvR3xP0MI-g&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6lQijaiNl5c&feature=related

 

[mzungu]

Can you show me proof than?And not bacterias or things alike,because such things are present in countless places,because God created humans on his own image and not bacterias and animals.

Yep.

chance, it would be 1 out of infinite possibilities which is very illogical.

Can you show me proof that you are in the position to understand these evidences if presented to you? What are your qualifications?

 

[GA777]

Humans can only survive unaided; within a few thousand metres from the surface of the Earth. In fact we live on the skin of 30% of the surface of a planet that a large percentage of that is hostile to human life (deserts including the Antarctic desert). The Earth is extremely lucky so far:

Space with Sam Neill Staying Alive part 1 of 3 - YouTube

Space with Sam Neill Staying Alive part 2 of 3 - YouTube

Space with Sam Neill Staying Alive part 3 of 3 - YouTube

And yes,surviving from that distance is another condition for the great design.God never told us to dig to live,but we are meant to live on the surface.

Job 38:22-23

New International Version (NIV)


22 “Have you entered the storehouses of the snow
or seen the storehouses of the hail,
23 which I reserve for times of trouble,
for days of war and battle?


Everything on This earth has a purpose,everything,because God made it happen.But there are things we know their purposes,things which we dont know why they were put yet,and others which will remain unknown.But this one is clearly stated in the passage there.

 

[mzungu]

You did say that current BB theory was "rock solid". Would you like to rescind that claim, or at least explain what exactly is "solid" about it?

Actually you are right that I over emphasised by adding the phrase rock solid. However I stand by BB because the THEORY (as used in science and not literature) of Big Bang is based on empirical evidences. It is ridiculous to ask me to post all the evidences in a debate thread. Go read BB like I have read your creationist evidences in your Bible! Of course your so called evidences are not based on empirical but on philosophical, mythological, and hearsay!

But like most creationists, you will almost definitely disregard reading the TBB and continue with your assumptions.

What next; The Americans never went to the moon?

 

[mzungu]

And yes,surviving from that distance is another condition for the great design.God never told us to dig to live,but we are meant to live on the surface.

Job 38:22-23

New International Version (NIV)


22 “Have you entered the storehouses of the snow
or seen the storehouses of the hail,
23 which I reserve for times of trouble,
for days of war and battle?


Everything on This earth has a purpose,everything,because God made it happen.But there are things we know their purposes,things which we dont know why they were put yet,and others which will remain unknown.But this one is clearly stated in the passage there.

YOU ACTUALLY WANT ME TO BELIEVE THAT YOU WATCHED THE 3 PARTS IN A FEW MINUTES AND YOU PASS JUDGEMENT?????????????????

 

[GA777]

YOU ACTUALLY WANT ME TO BELIEVE THAT YOU WATCHED THE 3 PARTS IN A FEW MINUTES AND YOU PASS JUDGEMENT?????????????????

I didnt watch,I just responded to what you wrote.You can quote the important information here and I can respond,I wont wait hours for the videos to buffer.

 

[mzungu]

I didnt watch,I just responded to what you wrote.You can quote the important information here and I can respond,I wont wait hours for the videos to buffer.

The video shows how hostile a place the universe is! Most if not all creationists, never want to see any evidence nor spend time learning about the physical world! I am not sure if this is due to a problem with attention span or generally not wanting to learn.

 

[GA777]

The video shows how hostile a place the universe is! Most if not all creationists, never want to see any evidence nor spend time learning about the physical world! I am not sure if this is due to a problem with attention span or generally not wanting to learn.

Yet nothing grave hits earth,since humans were there,no grave comets no meteors,but they did long time before to make the dinosaurs and other animals extinct so humans can live.The earth rotates,it doesnt get pulled by the sun,the planets dont crash against each other,the gravity is perfect,there is only 1 sun and not more etc. etc. So the perfect design is for us,for our living,and not for life to happen everywhere,because God created us in his own image,and not any other creature.

 

[mzungu]

Yet nothing grave hits earth,since humans were there,no grave comets no meteors,but they did long time before to make the dinosaurs and other animals extinct so humans can live.The earth rotates,it doesnt get pulled by the sun,the planets dont crash against each other,the gravity is perfect,there is only 1 sun and not more etc. etc. So the perfect design is for us,for our living,and not for life to happen everywhere,because God created us in his own image,and not any other creature.

I agree with you and were it not for FSM we would have been extinct a long time ago!

 

[GA777]

Pathetic.Have nothing better to say?

 

[mzungu]

Pathetic.Have nothing better to say?

Pathetic because I agreed with you

 

[GA777]

Nope,because you wrote something else too. And now you're being more Pathetic because you edited that post.I thought kids shouldnt have a place on these forums,but I guess I'm wrong.

But let's get back to the subject now.If you cant come up with anything better, than you can read and learn from what matures have to say here.

 

[mzungu]

Nope,because you wrote something else too. And now you're being more Pathetic because you edited that post.I thought kids shouldnt have a place on these forums,but I guess I'm wrong.

Oh you mean this: Yes dear some tea perhaps? I was just being friendly. Don't want anyone questioning my upbringing now! It would be considered bad form and all that! Besides did it upset you that I deleted it because you saw it as an opportunity to press a specific button?

But let's get back to the subject now.If you cant come up with anything better, than you can read and learn from what matures have to say here.

I have nothing to add. I did specifically say that I agreed with you! So what's your problem?

 

[mzungu]

The right to edit a post especially if it has just been posted shall not be infringed upon!
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[GA777]

Oh you mean this: Yes dear some tea perhaps? I was just being friendly. Don't want anyone questioning my upbringing now! It will be bad form and all that!

I have nothing to add. I did specifically say that I agreed with you! So what's your problem?

LOL that's why you removed it.

You agree with me on what?that there must be a designer behind all this design?

 

[mzungu]

LOL that's why you removed it.

No I removed it because I suspected that you wanted an excuse to press the button. But if it makes you happy go ahead and press it anyway!

You agree with me on what?that there must be a designer behind all this design?

Yes there is a designer; FSM!

 

[GA777]

you ediited it after I posted to make my post seem not in place.There's a big difference.
All I can say is : What a kid!haha you think you are funny but others unfortunately dont.Go work on yourself and when you grow up come here again,maybe you'll come up with something useful to say.I'll be mature enough and leave you here laughing at your own sarcasm and pathetic attitude.Keep it up!