Amillennialism & Preterism - Are these Biblical, or not?

[AlexB23]

They won't since I believe it requires the leading of the Holy Spirit, as well as the principle that the book of Revelation needs to be interpreted in connection to the rest of the Scriptures rather than apart from them. I don't know that A.I. programmers are that spiritually endowed to assume this principle.

True, AI is a bit secular in my opinion.

 

[AlexB23]

So, we're on the same page there, at least. Some focus on wars, earthquakes and famines and such but they miss that Jesus said those things will happen but will not be signs that His coming at the end of the age is near (Matt 24:6-8).

These things are happening more, though these are just the beginning, the birthing pains as Matthew 24:6-8, so I rejoice.

 

[CoreyD]

You are welcome. Someone messaged me about Amil, so I had to make a post about it. A part of me thinks that Revelation should be skipped over until one has been a Christian for a few decades. It is a confusing book.

Revelation cannot be understood by the number of years one identifies with Christianity today.
Revelation can only be understood one way. However, understanding me would even be confusing, as I would sound like I am speaking a foreign language.

 

[AlexB23]

Revelation cannot be understood by the number of years one identifies with Christianity today.
Revelation can only be understood one way. However, understanding me would even be confusing, as I would sound like I am speaking a foreign language.

Haha, understanding anyone or anything takes time. I don't think 10 lifetimes would help us understand Revelation. Some Christians even felt that Revelation should not be part of the Bible, all the way up through the 15th century.

From Wikipedia: "Revelation was among the last books accepted into the Christian biblical canon, and to the present day some churches that derive from the Church of the East reject it.[27][28] Eastern Christians became skeptical of the book as doubts concerning its authorship and unusual style[29] were reinforced by aversion to its acceptance by Montanists and other groups considered to be heretical.[30] This distrust of the Book of Revelation persisted in the East through the 15th century.[31]"

 

[Clare73]

Hello folks. How many of you guys think that Amil and Preterism are anti-Christian? Many Christians believe that Amillennialism and Preterism are false teachings due to their disagreement with a literal interpretation of certain end-time events described in the Bible. Here's why:

1. Amillennialism: This view denies the future millennium as a period of earthly bliss, which is often considered anti-Christian because it goes against several passages that describe this time explicitly (Revelation 20:1-7). For instance, verse 6 (NIV) says, "Blessed and holy are those who share in the first resurrection.
2. The second death has no power over them,

Why is the first resurrection not the new birth (resurrection) from spiritual death to eternal life, with the second death having no power over the born again?

2. but they will be priests of God and of Christ and will reign with him for a thousand years." This suggests a literal millennium where believers will reign with Christ on earth.

Figurative of the church age.

Preterism: Preterists believe that most or all of the prophecies about the end times were fulfilled by events prior to A.D. 70, which is problematic because many passages in Revelation (such as chapters 6-19) clearly depict future events yet to come. For example, Revelation 20:4 (NIV) says, "I saw thrones on which were seated those who had been given authority to judge. And I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded because of their testimony about Jesus and because of the word of God." This verse suggests a future event where believers will be martyred for their faith.
These interpretations can lead people away from a literal understanding of biblical prophecy and potentially undermine the hope that Christians have in Christ's return and the establishment of His kingdom on earth, which is central to Christian belief.

What is central to Christian belief is that the kingdom of God is here now (Mt 12:28, Lk 11:20, Eph 2:6, 1 Pe 2:5, 9, Rev 1:6, 5:9-10,
Da 2:44*).

The parables of Jesus consistently portray his kingdom as spiritual (of heaven) and as here and now (Mt 13:24, 31, 33, 44, 45, 47, 18:23, 20:1, Mk 4:26), hidden, without observation (Lk 17:20), and within (Lk 17:21).
The future kingdom is the eternal kingdom (Lk 21:25-28, 31), in the new heavens and new earth, the home of righteousness (2 Pe 3:13, Mt 5:5, 22:2, 25:1, Ro 4:13, Isa 65:17ff, 66:22, Re 21:1-4, no death).
But the Messianic kingdom of time is now, for we are now reigning with Christ (Eph 2:6) in his kingdom (Lk 22:69, Eph 1:19-22, Mk 14:62, 16:19, Ro 8:34, 1 Co 15:25, Col 3:1, Heb 1:3, 8:1, 10:12-13, 12:2, 1 Pe 3:22, Rev 1:6, Ps 2:6 with Heb 12:22).


*Da 2:44 - "in the time of those kings;" i.e., the Roman empire (Da 2:40-43), which conquered the Greek empire (Da 2:39, 8:21)--the Messianic kingdom was set up during the past Roman empire, at the first coming of Christ (Mt 12:28, Lk 11:20).

 

[AlexB23]

Why is the first resurrection not the new birth (resurrection) from spiritual death to eternal life, with the second death having no power over the born again?

Figurative of the church age.

What is central to Christian belief is that the kingdom of God is here now (Mt 12:28, Lk 11:20, Eph 2:6, 1 Pe 2:5, 9, Rev 1;6, 5:9-10,
Da 2:44*).

The parables of Jesus consistently portray his kingdom as spiritual (of heaven) and as here and now (Mt 13:24, 31, 33, 44, 45, 47, 18:23, 20:1, Mk 4:26).
The future kingdom is the eternal kingdom (Lk 21:25-28, 31), in the new heavens and new earth, the home of righteousness (2 Pe 3:13, Mt 5:5, 22:2, 25:1, Ro 4:13, Isa 65:17ff, 66:22, Re 21:1-4, no death).
But the Messianic kingdom of time is now, for we are now reigning with Christ (Eph 2:6) in his kingdom (Lk 22:69, Eph 1:19-22, Mk 14:62, 16:19, Ro 8:34, 1 Co 15:25, Col 3:1, Heb 1:3, 8:1, 10:12-13, 12:2, 1 Pe 3:22, Rev 1:6, Ps 2:6 with Heb 12:22).


*Da 2:44 - "in the time of those kings;" i.e., the Roman empire (Da 2:40-43), which conquered the Greek empire (Da 2:39, 8:21)--the Messianic kingdom was set up during the past Roman empire, at the first coming of Christ (Mt 12:28, Lk 11:20).

So, this means the Kingdom is here and now, but at the same time, it will happen in the future. Could this future Kingdom be in a sort of superposition (not of the quantum type, but more of a spiritual type), where it it both here, but also in the future?

 

[CoreyD]

Haha, understanding anyone or anything takes time.

That is true, but scientists will never understand many things.

I don't think 10 lifetimes would help us understand Revelation.

Revelation is actually understood.
So, let me speak a little foreign language.
Matthew 13:10-16 tells us who understands.
The only way way those seeking to understand, is... Acts 8:30, 31

Some Christians even felt that Revelation should not be part of the Bible, all the way up through the 15th century.

From Wikipedia: "Revelation was among the last books accepted into the Christian biblical canon, and to the present day some churches that derive from the Church of the East reject it.[27][28] Eastern Christians became skeptical of the book as doubts concerning its authorship and unusual style[29] were reinforced by aversion to its acceptance by Montanists and other groups considered to be heretical.[30] This distrust of the Book of Revelation persisted in the East through the 15th century.[31]"

I did not know this.
Always good to hear new things, of old things.

 

[Richard T]

I do agree with points 3 and 4. A lot of people are talking about the AC, and some are saying it might be Musk, others say certain politicians. For myself, I believe the AC has not revealed himself yet. Nero was the first version of the AC, Hitler might be another version, but we will get a true AC in the future, which we Christians will either be raptured before the Great Tribulation, or witness the 3.5 years of the Tribulation before the AC and then being raptured.

I lean to a pre-trib rapture myself, and you are right the AC can't be revealed yet. The groanings of the earth with all the precursors of wars, disasters and other plights sure are out there though. I would be curious if anyone thinks they could maybe profile the AC? To me, I am thinking similar to Jesus. No kids almost for sure, marriage unlikley? I figure the age has to be older than Jesus at his death but the guy will have shown big promise and charisma in his earlier days. Some say he is from the EU in their interpretation? I figure he will be pretty clean cut, no drug use or alcoholism. To me it seems pretty certain he will be a real person that some have guessed right. Even Hitler took a few years to rise through the ranks.

 

[AlexB23]

I lean to a pre-trib rapture myself, and you are right the AC can't be revealed yet. The groanings of the earth with all the precursors of wars, disasters and other plights sure are out there though. I would be curious if anyone thinks they could maybe profile the AC? To me, I am thinking similar to Jesus. No kids almost for sure, marriage unlikley? I figure the age has to be older than Jesus at his death but the guy will have shown big promise and charisma in his earlier days. Some say he is from the EU in their interpretation? I figure he will be pretty clean cut, no drug use or alcoholism. To me it seems pretty certain he will be a real person that some have guessed right. Even Hitler took a few years to rise through the ranks.

Yeah, I do not want to have kids either. The AC might even be alive today, but who knows. He will have a sense of charisma though. I believe in a pre-trib or mid-trib rapture. If anyone wants to profile the AC, he/she could.

 

[AlexB23]

That is true, but scientists will never understand many things.


Revelation is actually understood.
So, let me speak a little foreign language.
Matthew 13:10-16 tells us who understands.
The only way way those seeking to understand, is... Acts 8:30, 31


I did not know this.
Always good to hear new things, of old things.

Aww, Acts 8:30-31 is a good one, so wholesome. Just read it a few seconds ago, and the verses show how sometimes it is best to fellowship and discuss verses with other Christians to gain a deeper understanding. For Matthew 13, it seems that Jesus speaks in parables as these convey a deeper meaning compared to a direct explanation.

But yes, science can not explain everything.

 

[Ivan Hlavanda]

Not in the way you understand it, but it's not talking about him being incapacitated. It's talking about him being bound from keeping the world in spiritual darkness like he was able to do in OT times.

Let's read the whole passage:

Rev 20 Then I saw an angel coming down from heaven, holding in his hand the key to the bottomless pit and a great chain. 2 And he seized the dragon, that ancient serpent, who is the devil and Satan, and bound him for a thousand years, 3 and threw him into the pit, and shut it and sealed it over him, so that he might not deceive the nations any longer, until the thousand years were ended.

Satan will be thrown into bottomless pit. He is not only bound, but the pit is shut and sealed over him which results in satan having no power to deceive nations any longer. Look at the world today. Are you telling me satan is not deceiving any nations today? All the wars, world wars, false religion, abortions, murders, lgbtq propaganda, satan is behind that. If he was in bottomless pit which is shut and sealed, he wouldn't have any power to do this.

Let me show you what the thousand year kingdom will be like when satan has no power to deceive nations.

Isaiah 11 6 The wolf shall dwell with the lamb, and the leopard shall lie down with the young goat, and the calf and the lion and the fattened calf together; and a little child shall lead them. 7 The cow and the bear shall graze; their young shall lie down together; and the lion shall eat straw like the ox. 8 The nursing child shall play over the hole of the cobra, and the weaned child shall put his hand on the adder's den. 9 They shall not hurt or destroy in all my holy mountain; for the earth shall be full of the knowledge of the Lord as the waters cover the sea.
This is how peaceful will it be during the millennium kingdom.

Another example Isaiah 65 17 “For behold, I create new heavens and a new earth, and the former things shall not be remembered or come into mind. 18 But be glad and rejoice forever in that which I create; for behold, I create Jerusalem to be a joy, and her people to be a gladness.
19 I will rejoice in Jerusalem and be glad in my people; no more shall be heard in it the sound of weeping and the cry of distress.
20 No more shall there be in it an infant who lives but a few days, or an old man who does not fill out his days for the young man shall die a hundred years old, and the sinner a hundred years old shall be accursed.
This isn't a description of Heaven, as there will be no death and no sinners. There will be a time, when a 100 years old will die, and he will be considered young. This is still yet to come, it is what it will be like in the millennium kingdom.

It hasn't come in its fullness in terms of the new heavens and new earth with no more death, sorrow, crying or pain yet. But, it certainly has come spiritually already.

I don't know it you heard of the Universal Kingdom of God and the Mediatorial Kingdom of God. Let's me explain.

The Universal Kingdom of God - God's sovereign rule over all that exists. Verses:
Psalm 10:16 The Lord is king forever and ever;

1 Chronicles 29:11 Yours, O Lord, is the greatness and the power and the glory and the victory and the majesty, for all that is in the heavens and in the earth is yours. Yours is the kingdom, O Lord, and you are exalted as head above all.

Daniel 4 34 At the end of the days I, Nebuchadnezzar, lifted my eyes to heaven, and my reason returned to me, and I blessed the Most High, and praised and honored him who lives forever, for his dominion is an everlasting dominion, and his kingdom endures from generation to generation; 35 all the inhabitants of the earth are accounted as nothing, and he does according to his will among the host of heaven and among the inhabitants of the earth; and none can stay his hand or say to him, “What have you done?

In Universal Kingdom of God, there is only God who reigns, there is no satan or anyone else, but Holy God who rules it all.

Mediatorial Kingdom of God - exists within the Universal Kingdom of God, small domain called the Earth, which is currently ruled by satan. This kingdom God gave to His creation.

Psalm 115 16 The heavens are the Lord's heavens, but the earth he has given to the children of man.

Genesis 1 26 Then God said, “Let us make man[h] in our image, after our likeness. And let them have dominion over the fish of the sea and over the birds of the heavens and over the livestock and over all the earth and over every creeping thing that creeps on the earth.”
27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God he created him; male and female he created them. 28 And God blessed them. And God said to them, “Be fruitful and multiply and fill the earth and subdue it, and have dominion over the fish of the sea and over the birds of the heavens and over every living thing that moves on the earth.

So God created Earth so man can have dominion all over it. But man fell, and he gave this dominion to satan.

Luke 4:4 And Jesus answered him, “It is written, ‘Man shall not live by bread alone.’” 5 And the devil took him up and showed him all the kingdoms of the world in a moment of time, 6 and said to him, “To you I will give all this authority and their glory, for it has been delivered to me, and I give it to whom I will. 7 If you, then, will worship me, it will all be yours.” 8 And Jesus answered him, “It is written, “‘You shall worship the Lord your God, and him only shall you serve.’” The devil is now temporarily the current ruler of the Earth. He is the god of this world.

2 Cor 4 3 And even if our gospel is veiled, it is veiled to those who are perishing. 4 In their case the god of this world has blinded the minds of the unbelievers, to keep them from seeing the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God.

John 14 29 And now I have told you before it takes place, so that when it does take place you may believe. 30 I will no longer talk much with you, for the ruler of this world is coming.....the world has chosen satan over God, and it serves satan still. But let's have a look at God's plan for the kingdom.

After Adam's fall, God promised He will renew the dominion of man over Earth that currently belongs to satan (gen 3:15). This will be achieved by Abraham's descendant, by David's descendant whose throne will be forever (1 Chr 17:14). The OT teaches that God will establish Messiah who will not only rule over Israel, but over all nations of the Earth (Zechariah 14:9). This has not happened yet.

Revelation 11:5 teaches that after the 7th angel blew his trumpet “The kingdom of the world has become the kingdom of our Lord and of his Christ, and he shall reign forever and ever.” Lord Jesus Christ is the one who will return the dominion of the Earth back to God. But this is future, this will happen after the 7th trumpet. This will happen when the Lord returns at the battle of Armagedon.

This is why we pray for God's kingdom to come. This will be during the millennial Kingdom when Lord Jesus sits on David's throne in Jerusalem as was prophesised. Only pre-mil view fits this.

 

[Oseas]

See, the Word of GOD is from everlasting to everlasting, the Word is GOD, GOD Himself,self-executing, it's the Power. We are living in the seventh and last millennium after Adam,or seventh and last Day,the Lord's Day.As is written-Revelation 11:6&18-,more Power will be given over waters,over peoples,and NATIONS,and multitudes of all tongues,understand? to turn them to blood, and to smite the earth with ALL plagues,as often as will. So the opening of the 7 seals starts, the first four seals is LITERALLY fulfilled from now on with the appearance/manifestation of 4 horseriders and what each one does and shall do, it is written in Revelation 6:1-8, take a look. One of them works for the Lord JESUS-Michael-, three of them work for the Devil, the MAN of sin, son of perdition; would be them Putin, Xi Jiping and Trump, or other? It is up to the believers to discern and identify them by the Spirit of GOD, they are already moving in the scenary.

OTOH, meanwhile, all Christian believers which were slain for the Word of GOD and testimony which they held from the fourth to the sixth Day (last 2000 years) they must remain under the altar as it is showed in Revelation 6:9-11&Re.8:3-5 combined with Revelation 19:5-10,take a look.

We are in the Lord's Day,time of the Apocalypse,the turn of the 6th to the 7th Day,and the Trumpets starts to sound at the opening of the 7th seal,as is written-Revelation 8:1-7. From now on there will be terrible punishments, only and only punishments, but it is the beginning of the chastisings according to the Word of GOD; 6th seal is LITERALLY fulfilled even BEFORE the beginning of the 1st half and it lasts until the beginning of the 2nd half of the last week of years.

The above described is the scenary to be seen in the 1st half of the last week, and the 2nd half, how will it be?

Well, the PLAGUES will be poured in the 2nd half of the last week: Revelation 16:2: The FIRST PLAGUE will be poured upon the earth; upon the inhabitants of Israel ruled by their false messiah-John 5:43-47- , he is an esoteric, and kabbalistic, and spiritist false messiah, the MAN of sin, son of perdition-John 17:12 and 2Thessalonians 2:3-12 and Revelation 13:11-14. By the way, the MAN of sin was born decades ago, his personal manifestation is at door, before Christ's coming.

John saw: Revelation 15:1-8:
1-And I saw another sign in heaven(heaven?Ephesians 1:3-8 among many other biblical references), great and marvellous, 7 angels having the 7 last PLAGUES; for in THEM is filled up the WRATH of GOD->(Revelation 11:18 & Re.16:1)
4- Who shall not fear thee, O Lord,and glorify thy name? thou only art holy: ...and thy Judgments are made manifest.

Then the PLAGUES start to be poured, its in the beginning of the 2nd half of the last week: Revelation 16:2: The FIRST PLAGUE will be poured upon the earth; upon the inhabitants of Israel, and there will fall a noisome and grievous sore upon all MEN which have the MARK of the Beast, and upon them which worshipp his image.

And the 2nd plague will be poured upon the sea;-->sea= waters=> peoples, and NATIONS, and multitudes of every tongue, GENTILE PEOPLES, and they will become as the blood of a dead man: and every LIVING SOUL(that was created, Genesis 2:7) shall die.-->As it was in Sodom and Gomorrah, and in the neighbouring cities.

The sequence of the pragues and their consequences are described from Revelation 16:4 to 21. Terrible,very terrible, as we can foreseen by the Word of GOD. JESUS warned us: Luke 21:25-28
25 And there shall be signs in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars (Revelation 12:1-12, take a look.); and upon the Earth distress of NATIONS, with perplexity; the sea (peoples, and NATIONS, and multitudes of all tongues-Gentile NATIONS) and the waves roaring(Psalm 2:1-5);

26Men's hearts failing them for fear, and for looking after those things which are coming on the Earth: for the powers of heaven (Ephesians 1:3-8) shall be shaken.

27And then shall they see the Son of man coming in a cloud with power and great glory.(the same CLOUD that received JESUS in His ascension-Acts 1:9-11,combined with Matthew 17:5, and 2 Peter 1:16-12,and Isaiah 4:1-6 speaking of the seven Churches as a clue to understand the prophecies).

28 And when these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads; for your redemption draweth nigh.

Get ready

 

[Oseas]

Our Lord JESUS maked this very clear, saying: John 14:1-3

1 Let not your heart be troubled: ye believe in GOD, believe also in me.
2 In my Father's house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you.
3 And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also.

Matthew 25:31-34 and 41 & 46
31 When the Son of man shall come in his glory, and all the holy angels with him, then shall he sit upon the throne of his glory:
32 And before him shall be gathered all nations: and he shall separate them one from another, as a shepherd divideth his sheep from the goats:
33 And he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on the left.
34 Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world:

Get ready (Acts 14:22)

41 Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels: 46 And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the RIGHTEOUS into life ETERNAL.(Romans 2:7-11.Take a look)

Revelation 20:4
4-And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them(Revelation 11:16-17), and Judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the Word of GOD, and which had not worshipped the Beast,neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.

The most important thing is to be with Him, no matter where or in what place, the problem is to be cast into the fire of hell. -->Matthew 10:28-take a look.

GOD BLESS

 

[Clare73]

So, this means the Kingdom is here and now, but at the same time, it will happen in the future. Could this future Kingdom be in a sort of superposition (not of the quantum type, but more of a spiritual type), where it it both here, but also in the future?

It's the same kingdom, of time, spiritual and invisible now, but continuing into eternity and visible.

 

[AlexB23]

It's the same kingdom, of time, spiritual and invisible now, but continuing into eternity and visible.

Amen to that. I am looking forward to living in the Kingdom of God with His son.

 

[AFrazier]

Gematria? So many folks use Gematria for solving Da Vinci codes in the Bible and stuff.

That may be so. But it still is what it is. Alpha characters doubled for numeric characters. Therefore, every name had a numeric value, and the "number of his name" is explicitly stated at least twice.

Rev. 13:17 — And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.

Rev. 15:2 — And I saw as it were a sea of glass mingled with fire: and them that had gotten the victory over the beast, and over his image, and over his mark, and over the number of his name, stand on the sea of glass, having the harps of God.

You don't have to agree with this. But when things are too coincidental to be a coincidence, it's usually because it isn't a coincidence at all.

The alternate reading, the existence of which was known as early as the times of Irenaeus (Iren. Adv. Haer. 5.29.2-5.30.1-2), can be found in P. Oxy. 6.4499 (= Gregory—Aland P¹¹⁵) and Codex Ephraemi Rescriptus (Gregory—Aland C or 04).

 

[Oseas]

Amen to that. I am looking forward to living in the Kingdom of God with His son.

The Day of the Lord arrived,the 7th and last Day,or 7th and last millennium.There are many things to happen from now on according to the Word of GOD.As all of us know,the Word of GOD is from everlasting to everlasting,the Word is GOD,GOD Himself,self-executing,so the most important thing to be LITERALLY fulfilled now is the establishment of GOD's Kingdom,understand?which was preached by our Lord around 2000 years ago to establish it in this time:Hoseas 6:2-3 and 1Corinthians 15:24-27 and Revelation 11:15-18,take a look,there are many biblical references.

The main focus now,and from now on,is the establishment of GOD's Kingdom preached by our Lord JESUS Christ as said Paul Apostle: Philippians 3:20-21
20For our conversation is in heaven(heaven?Ephesians 1:3-8);from whence also we look for the Saviour,the Lord Jesus Christ:
21Who shall change our vile body,that it may be fashioned like unto His glorious body,according to the working whereby He is able even to subdue all things unto Himself.-->Is this promise OK for you,is it in your remembrance/mind?

2Timothy 2:4-5
4No man that warreth entangleth himself with the affairs of this life; that he may please Him who has chosen him to be a soldier.-->(or to
please the One who enlisted him to the war-->(War? Revelation 12:7-12).
5And if a man also strive for masteries(dominion),yet is he not crowned,except he strive lawfully-->by the Word of GOD:Hebrews 4:9-13)

Revelation 11:15-18
15-...The kingdoms of this world are become the Kingdoms of our Lord, and of His Christ;and He shall reign for ever and ever.
...
18-And the NATIONS were(will be)angry,and GOD's WRATH is come...(GOD's WRATH comes upon all the NATIONS,get ready not to suffer GOD's WRATH,but to receive glorious rewards as says the verse)

Romans 8:18-19
18I reckon that the sufferings of this present time are not worthy to be compared with the glory which shall be revealed in us.(Luke 20:35-36)
19For the earnest expectation of the creature waits for the manifestation of the sons of GOD.

GOD BLESS

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[AlexB23]

That may be so. But it still is what it is. Alpha characters doubled for numeric characters. Therefore, every name had a numeric value, and the "number of his name" is explicitly stated at least twice.

Rev. 13:17 — And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.

Rev. 15:2 — And I saw as it were a sea of glass mingled with fire: and them that had gotten the victory over the beast, and over his image, and over his mark, and over the number of his name, stand on the sea of glass, having the harps of God.

You don't have to agree with this. But when things are too coincidental to be a coincidence, it's usually because it isn't a coincidence at all.

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The alternate reading, the existence of which was known as early as the times of Irenaeus (Iren. Adv. Haer. 5.29.2-5.30.1-2), can be found in P. Oxy. 6.4499 (= Gregory—Aland P¹¹⁵) and Codex Ephraemi Rescriptus (Gregory—Aland C or 04).

Wow, that is either a very good coincidence, or this is Nero. I do know that Hebrew uses the same characters for numbers as letters. Who knows, the next AC might have a name that adds up to 666 as well.

 

[Oseas]

The Day of the Lord arrived,the 7th and last Day,or 7th and last millennium.There are many things to happen from now on according to the Word of GOD.As all of us know,the Word of GOD is from everlasting to everlasting,the Word is GOD,GOD Himself,self-executing,so the most important thing to be LITERALLY fulfilled now is the establishment of GOD's Kingdom, which was preached by our Lord JESUS around 2000 years ago to be established it in this time: Hoseas 6:2-3 and 1Corinthians 15:24-27 and Revelation 11:15-18,take a look,there are many biblical references.

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[Oseas]

Matthew 24:42-44
42 Watch therefore: for ye know not what hour your Lord doth come.
43 But know this, that if the goodman of the house had known in what watch the thief would come, he would have watched, and would not have suffered his house to be broken up.
44 Therefore be ye also ready: for in such an hour as ye think not the Son of man cometh.