Aliens?

[Gregory Thompson]

yea, Jude 6 states fallen angels are in chains until the day of judgement. Don’t think they’re able to be flying around.

The chained angels were the ones that bred with humans, not all of the fallen.

Not all angels fly. Though one female type in Jeremiah actually did fly, it was just one type of angel though.

 

[friend of]

any type of angel can be overtaken by sin, and then become fallen

Not anymore, I believe. The good Angel's and bad Angel's are set where they are in their loyalties.

 

[Gregory Thompson]

Not anymore, I believe. The good Angel's and bad Angel's are set where they are in their loyalties.

That's not written, but it's a common backdrop for angel fiction.

 

[Tanj]

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Aliens, the ones that are portrayed as coming from outer space are a creation of government.

Which government?

 

[Guinan]

What say you?

FYI...

Luis Elizondo, Former AATIP Director, on UFOs and National Security (Live, 6/8) - 31 minutes.

Luis Elizondo is the former director of the Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program (AATIP), an unpublicized U.S. government program created in 2007 committed to the investigation of UAPs.

Chart: UFO Sightings Are Taking Off Again

 

[Gregory Thompson]

UFO = Spy Ship from other country.

 

[Vap841]

Alien drones of some sort, but unmanned. Everyone evolved for their own specific atmosphere, so I doubt that any enlightened species could breathe on any far off planet anyway so they don’t wanna come here. And who wants to live in domes, why not live your whole life in an underground bunker, or not be able to go anywhere without a helmet on? You thought a Covid mask was annoying!?

 

[Toynbee]

Oh, they exist alright - I see one every morning when I first look into the mirror.

 

[d taylor]

Which government?

I would guess any country who has had citizens report seeing alien craft would be involved.

But larger countries have more than likely developed the system for use in various countries.

 

[Norbert L]

What say you?

It's classic Star Trek IX - Insurrection

 

[Toynbee]

I was a big fan of this stuff back in the '60's when Project Blue Book came out. But intriguing as it seems, there's just no concrete evidence whatsoever they exist. In my mind it's more of a form of self-indulgent fantasy. Fun to speculate, fun to imagine, and lots of fun to watch on the TV or movie screen...

I think the only people arguing from any discernible degree of credibility on the matter are those who look at it from a probabilistic perspective. Given the size of the universe, the number of galaxies, stars, solar systems, etc., the MATH certainly does not rule out their existence.

But other than the math... meh... not convincing me.

 

[Shemjaza]

I said:

Exist, but haven’t found us yet

But the "Don't know" might be more appropriate. Given the scale and age of the universe I am convinced there are aliens out there somewhere... but all I have is inference for that belief, not hard evidence.

I do not believe in little green men in ships kidnapping people and putting modern art displays in empty fields.

 

[friend of]

not written, but it's a common backdrop for angel fiction

Okay so you are saying that evil Angels could repent and be accepted by God again? Is such a repentance available to the devil himself now? I really don't think so. If it were, all the evil angels would repent in order to avoid their punishment.

 

[Vap841]

I was a big fan of this stuff back in the '60's when Project Blue Book came out. But intriguing as it seems, there's just no concrete evidence whatsoever they exist. In my mind it's more of a form of self-indulgent fantasy. Fun to speculate, fun to imagine, and lots of fun to watch on the TV or movie screen...

I think the only people arguing from any discernible degree of credibility on the matter are those who look at it from a probabilistic perspective. Given the size of the universe, the number of galaxies, stars, solar systems, etc., the MATH certainly does not rule out their existence.

But other than the math... meh... not convincing me.

So what are all the sightings then? It’s one thing to say that we have no clue in the year 1800, but it’s strange that we now know things like all the details of subatomic particles yet we would be clueless about objects that keep doing the Irish Jig around military bases! I’ve heard theories such as lasers, but it seems like in 2021 something like that would be painfully easy to identify

 

[Shemjaza]

So what are all the sightings then? It’s one thing to say that we have no clue in the year 1800, but it’s strange that we now know things like all the details of subatomic particles yet we would be clueless about objects that keep doing the Irish Jig around military bases! I’ve heard theories such as lasers, but it seems like in 2021 something like that would be painfully easy to identify

Given the lack of verifiable evidence for these, isn't people being honestly mistaken about what they thought they saw the best explanation?

 

[Vap841]

Given the lack of verifiable evidence for these, isn't people being honestly mistaken about what they thought they saw the best explanation?

But what is it that they are seeing then, what is it that they all keep mistaking for UFOs? If it’s something that would be fooling & baffling the military for 70 years then saying that it’s just a balloon, or it’s just a spotlight or something wouldn’t make sense. Because if it’s an easy/obvious explanation like that then we wouldn’t be baffled by it, but if we’re baffled by it then it can’t be an obvious explanation. I’m not implying to you or Toneybee that I think it’s aliens when I say well what is it then, I’m really just asking what you think it is. But maybe I just want it to be aliens lol

 

[Kylie]

What say you?

I said "Don't Know."

My actual position is that I think alien life is very likely, probably existing within our own solar system. But this kind of alien life, is, I suspect, going to be very simple. Similar to bacterial life, that kind of thing.

Aliens that are similar to Humans in intelligence I think are also possible, but far less likely, and I do not think for a second we have had any contact with them, nor are we likely to have contact with them in the foreseeable future.

 

[AV1611VET]

What say you?

Hebrews 13:2 Be not forgetful to entertain strangers: for thereby some have entertained angels unawares.

 

[Lost4words]

My mates mother in law was an alien thats for sure!

 

[Toynbee]

So what are all the sightings then? It’s one thing to say that we have no clue in the year 1800, but it’s strange that we now know things like all the details of subatomic particles yet we would be clueless about objects that keep doing the Irish Jig around military bases! I’ve heard theories such as lasers, but it seems like in 2021 something like that would be painfully easy to identify

I don't know what they are - nor do those who see them, and nor do those who review the photos and videos of them. It's why we call them "unidentified" objects. We don't know what they are. Period. Anything beyond this is pure speculation, theorizing, nothing more. And like you note, the the theories abound - and yet none have the credibility to stand at the fore as the most logical - or even accurate.

Perhaps a better question perhaps is why all these sightings, and/or their circumstances, seem to follow just a handful of similar patterns.

I don't know the answer to that either.