You're avoiding my main point. You said "belief is a choice" but you can't show me how you can choose to believe anything that you don't already believe.
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Age Old Debate: Right and Wrong
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I trust the side with the least to gain by propoganda, given the current situation. Often shame is a factor. Today, I'd take American WWII over Japanese, and American Yankee over Dixie. A teacher I had in high school once recalled a student from the South that never learned the South lost the Civil War until she moved to California. It just wasn't explained that way in the textbooks or by the teachers.
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Of course. They do so involuntarily.
Can you prove me wrong? Change your faith for me, right now.
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JesusWalks78
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I went from a Methodist, to a Bhuddist, to a Muslim was an atheist and am now a Roman Catholic.
I have found the true faith, I dont need to change...yet I have changed several times.
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Because I have yet to meet anyone who can arbitrarily change their faith at a whim.
You included!Trickster
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JesusWalks78
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Because I have yet to meet anyone who can arbitrarily change their faith at a whim.
Trickster
yet it still does change right?
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JesusWalks78, it is surprising to hear that you have learned so much from so many religions and still completely lack wisdom. You better than most in here should know that the path to truth is not clear, and with each new discovery made, a seeker always believes he has found the end. Believe what you will, but it would be foolish of you to proclaim that you now know the truth, seeing as how you probably made the same claim so many times before when you believed such different things.
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JesusWalks78
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The path to truth is clouded by the enemy, he is trying to keep everyone from the truth...luckily I found it.
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JesusWalks78
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Of course! Just not by choice, for the umpteenth time.
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You have yet to demonstrate that while I went from religion to religion I was forced into them...and it wasnt a choice?
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Oh my God, it's like you didn't even read what I said. You are like a man with an insatiable sexual appetite who runs from woman to woman. While you lie with her, you say to yourself, "At last I have found her. This is the one who will always please me." After a while, though, you either grow bored with her or discover her flaws, and then you say to yourself, "While I once believed that this woman was the right one for me, I now see that she is a mere harlot whom I used to occupy my time. I should seek another." It is this way that you run from religion to religion, declaring this one right and then that one, and never realizing that the newest will not be the last.
It's also important to note that this "enemy" is nothing more or less than the fabrication of your latest crush.
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The only way to disprove a blanket statement is to find a counterexample. This unfortunately places the burden of proof on you. Show me someone choosing to change or adopt even the simplest belief for demonstration purposes only, and then I will agree people can "choose" to believe something. Until then, nothing suggests people have any choice whatsoever in their beliefs. This is probably why people who are persecuted for faith continue to believe!
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WittyBanter
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Good and evil are subject to what a majority of a society thinks. A society will often dictate "exceptions" to a rule as well. For example, in the west murder is generally considered a major offense. However, if the country is at war a man who kills 15 opponents will be considered a hero. Perhaps that man would feel guilty if he killed just 1 person back at home, but now that his culture has told him it's ok, his guilt is lessened (and I know, he may still feel terrible about it).
Oh, and for those that think speeding is a sin, I have to ask you: If Jesus were alive today and went above the posted speed limit, would that take away his sinless status?
Oh, and for those that think speeding is a sin, I have to ask you: If Jesus were alive today and went above the posted speed limit, would that take away his sinless status?
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