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How would you know if you were wrong?
What test do you have that determines if God exists or not?
What simple question did you think I dodged?
That's exactly what Hitchslap is saying, he is free to accept whatever is true but you are not,
you must stick to the dogma true or false or you lose your faith and as of now that's the last thing you want to do.
You don't? then I will tell you, if Hitchslap decides that what he believes is right he will believe it,I don't know what he has done to find the truth do I?
(emphasis added)[...] notorious modern liberals: Joseph Stalin, Mao Tse-tung, Vladimir Lenin, President Ho Chi Minh, President Kim Il Sung, Prime Minister Pol Pot, and President Kim Jong Il.
None of the people listed above did what they did because they were Atheists, you need religion to make good men do bad things.Was Adolf Hitler a practicing devout Christian?
It seems that there are some atheistic modern liberals who want to push very hard the idea that Adolf Hitler was a practicing devout Christian. That he avidly practiced Christian principles on a daily basis. And that he proclaimed the Word of God to everyone he met.
Was Adolf Hitler really a practicing devout Christian? Well, to answer this question, we must define what a practicing devout Christian really is.
--- Snipped because we all know what Hitler did ---
Given the above list, it's very clear that Adolf Hitler was NOT a practicing devout Christian. In fact, Adolf Hitler's life was as far from Christianity as one can get - the complete opposite! Adolf Hitler made absolutely NO attempt to follow God's commandments! He made absolutely NO attempt to love everyone as himself!
So any atheistic modern liberal who claims that Adolf Hitler was a practicing devout Christian doesn't know a thing about Hitler.
In fact, Adolf Hitler's behavior was very similar to other notorious modern liberals: Joseph Stalin, Mao Tse-tung, Vladimir Lenin, President Ho Chi Minh, President Kim Il Sung, Prime Minister Pol Pot, and President Kim Jong Il.
Why is that strange?It's also very strange why every German soldier under Hitler had "Gott mit uns" [God with us] on their belt buckles,
Hitler would have had that removed in a second had he not been a Catholic.
You could well be right, does that mean the writers of the bible could have also fooled Christians with Jesus?Why is that strange?
He fooled a lot of people with that -- including you guys.
Even the Antichrist is going to fake a pass.
No.You could well be right, does that mean the writers of the bible could have also fooled Christians with Jesus?
Yes ... except Christians.are all religious people getting fooled by their religious books?
I'm sure it does to you.you could well be right because that does make sense.
There might well have been a man named Jesus who was crucified in fact as crucifixion was quite a common form of punishment then I expect there were lots of men called Jesus who were crucified, how many men in the US called John have been hung, gassed or electrocuted in the last 50 years?Jesus of Nazareth would not have died on a cross as a setup for a false religion; and had He not been able to do the things He did, He never would have been crucified in the first place.
how many men in the US called John have been hung, gassed or electrocuted in the last 50 years?
I less than then the bible writers, little did they know the damage they would do and the pain they would cause.How many of them were gassed or electrocuted thinking to themselves, "Ha! Ha! I fooled you guys good!"
You don't? then I will tell you, if Hitchslap decides that what he believes is right he will believe it,
if some new evidence comes along tomorrow to make him change his mind he will readily change it,
you on the other hand do not have that luxury because you are stuck with believing your dogma,
you must dismiss everything that could [and should] change your mind in favour of something that does not allow you to change your mind.
If Hitchslap changes his mind he just changes his opinion, if you change your mind you change your life.
Just ask yourself this, other than your religion what else do you believe without having evidence that it's true?
I would guess nothing.
I do not want to put you down Oncedeceived but I'm afraid I must, you have not experienced God you only imagine you have because the only God you have is in your imagination, someone put the idea of a God into your head and you took it from there just as a Muslim did with a different God.Ginger, I understand that you have never experienced God. I do, I understand unless you do you can't believe in something that you have not experienced. What you don't understand is how someone experiences God. The experience is one element but there is more. The universe is indeed evidence for me that He is who He says He is. I know that God exists and is the Christian God, you can't just change your mind when you know something is true. I wish you could understand that.
From my side of this equation I see people refusing to see things right in front of their eyes.
Ginger, I understand that you have never experienced God. I do, I understand unless you do you can't believe in something that you have not experienced. What you don't understand is how someone experiences God. The experience is one element but there is more. The universe is indeed evidence for me that He is who He says He is. I know that God exists and is the Christian God, you can't just change your mind when you know something is true. I wish you could understand that.
From my side of this equation I see people refusing to see things right in front of their eyes.
I less than then the bible writers, little did they know the damage they would do and the pain they would cause.
I have asked you if you can demonstrate that this experience of yours is "more" than self deception. Nothing yet.Ginger, I understand that you have never experienced God. I do, I understand unless you do you can't believe in something that you have not experienced. What you don't understand is how someone experiences God. The experience is one element but there is more.
How do you reconcile what you believe to be true and your inability to demonstrate it?The universe is indeed evidence for me that He is who He says He is. I know that God exists and is the Christian God, you can't just change your mind when you know something is true. I wish you could understand that.
It is well documented that people see things that are not actually there (apophenia). That may be your problem with others not seeing what you see.From my side of this equation I see people refusing to see things right in front of their eyes.
I would have said gobsmacked, but mortified is definitely better.I think he's making the point that if the writers of what would become the Bible had known that the Bible would be used to justify genocide, wars, slavery, rape, incest, polygamy, and terrorism, they would've been mortified.
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