Adam ?

[miknik5]

I have not accused you Truth cast down becomes an adversary in the garden. Christ is the way, truth and LIFE. No one comes to the Father except through The Son. I have said nothing contrary to that Truth.

The wedding feast prepared by the Father, through The Door, indeed, clothed/enclosed (again). He who has the bride is the bridegroom. Which relates back to the garden and becoming One (again) through Christ...

But one of the soldiers with a spear pierced his side, and forthwith came there out blood and water.

Who is he that overcometh the world, but he that believeth that Jesus is the Son of God?
This is he that came by water and blood, even Jesus Christ; not by water only, but by water and blood. And it is the Spirit that beareth witness, because the Spirit is truth.


He Himself bore our sins in His body on the cross,so that we might die to sin and live to righteousness; for by His wounds you were healed.

But not all have turned so as to be healed
Because not all who have heard HIS VOICE believe

 

[PeaceJoyLove]

But not all have turned so as to be healed
Because not all who have heard HIS VOICE believe

Not all believe...

 

[mozo41]

And after my skin has been destroyed, yet in my flesh I will see God; whom I shall see for myself, and my eyes shall behold, and not another.

 

[miknik5]

And after my skin has been destroyed, yet in my flesh I will see God; whom I shall see for myself, and my eyes shall behold, and not another.

Job 19:25For I know that my redeemer liveth, and that he shall stand at the latter day upon the earth:And after my skin has been destroyed, yet in my flesh I will see God; whom I shall see for myself, and my eyes shall behold, and not another.

(Do you also believe Job 9?)

 

[miknik5]

All in Adam will die

 

[PeaceJoyLove]

Paul's letters are addressed only to those in THE BODY and not to those outside THE BODY

"For this cause I bow my knees unto the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ,

Of whom the whole family in heaven and earth is named,

That he would grant you, according to the riches of his glory, to be strengthened with might by his Spirit in the inner man;

That Christ may dwell in your hearts by faith; that ye, being rooted and grounded in love,

May be able to comprehend with all saints what is the breadth, and length, and depth, and height;

And to know the love of Christ, which passeth knowledge, that ye might be filled with all the fulness of God." (Ephesians 3)

Perception...we see (and hear) from where we are at in the process. He can only give us what we can see as possible, and with God ALL things are possible...whether we can see it or not.
"Jesus said unto them, If ye were blind, ye should have no sin: but now ye say, We see; therefore your sin remaineth."

"Behold the Lamb of God, which taketh away the sin of the world." (...the lamb slain from the foundation of the world...) which relates to the questions God asked in the garden, "Where art thou?...Who told thee that thou wast naked? Hast thou eaten of the tree, whereof I commanded thee that thou shouldest not eat?"

He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches. To the one who conquers I will grant to eat of the tree of life, which is in the paradise of God.’

Not all can see and hear, yet...

 

[miknik5]

"For this cause I bow my knees unto the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ,

Of whom the whole family in heaven and earth is named,

That he would grant you, according to the riches of his glory, to be strengthened with might by his Spirit in the inner man;

That Christ may dwell in your hearts by faith; that ye, being rooted and grounded in love,

May be able to comprehend with all saints what is the breadth, and length, and depth, and height;

And to know the love of Christ, which passeth knowledge, that ye might be filled with all the fulness of God." (Ephesians 3)

Perception...we see (and hear) from where we are at in the process. He can only give us what we can see as possible, and with God ALL things are possible...whether we can see it or not.
"Jesus said unto them, If ye were blind, ye should have no sin: but now ye say, We see; therefore your sin remaineth."

"Behold the Lamb of God, which taketh away the sin of the world." (...the lamb slain from the foundation of the world...) which relates to the questions God asked in the garden, "Where art thou?...Who told thee that thou wast naked? Hast thou eaten of the tree, whereof I commanded thee that thou shouldest not eat?"

He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches. To the one who conquers I will grant to eat of the tree of life, which is in the paradise of God.’

Not all can see and hear, yet...

Jesus addressed two sets of people

And in fact said I did not come to bring peace but division

The verdict and the judgement is that THE LIGHT has come into the world

Not all believe

Here is what HE said to those who did not believe in HIM:

You can not follow ME where I am going you can not come and if you do not believe I am HE Ye shall die in your sins (John 8)


And yet to HIS disciples HE said:

I am doing away and you can not follow ME now...but you will later ( John 13)

 

[miknik5]

He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches. To the one who conquers I will grant to eat of the tree of life, which is in the paradise of God.’

Not all can see and hear, yet...

Not all can see and hear yet

Just as John 5 clearly states

And just as revelation 20 shows not all names are written in the Book of Life

This is why THE GOSPEL is preached now to the living and why today is the day of salvation

 

[Hethatreadethit]

Yet ... Noah plants a vineyard, and his nakedness is revealed ... a pattern ...

"Thine eyes shall behold strange women, and thine heart shall utter perverse things."

Ham the Father of Canann looked upon the nakedness of Noah, whereas Shem, and Japheth did not and took the responsibility to cover their father.

Nakedness is against God's nature and is symbolic of unrighteousness, although Adam and Eve were naked they were like infants as with innocence, having neither righteousness or sin until they broke the only commandment given.

Rom 7:11 For sin, taking occasion by the commandment, deceived me, and by it slew me.

The serpent, as is written in Genesis, was very subtil:

Gen 3:1 Now the serpent was more subtil than any beast of the field which the LORD God had made. And he said unto the woman, Yea, hath God said, Ye shall not eat of every tree of the garden?

The word "subtil" of which the Hebrew root signifies both "naked" and "subtle". The serpent was greatly and deceitfully unrighteous.

And the serpent said:

Gen 3:4 And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die:
Gen 3:5 For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil.

Satan has been deceiving mankind by making man think that he can sin and not die. The same unrighteous doctrines fill the world today:

2Th 2:10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.
2Th 2:11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:
2Th 2:12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

I believe where it says: "they should believe a lie," should say: " they should believe the lie".

And that is: Ye shall not surely die. Have a good Sabbath.

Hethatreadethit

 

[PeaceJoyLove]

Jesus addressed two sets of people

And in fact said I did not come to bring peace but division

The verdict and the judgement is that THE LIGHT has come into the world

Not all believe

Here is what HE said to those who did not believe in HIM:

You can not follow ME where I am going you can not come and if you do not believe I am HE Ye shall die in your sins (John 8)


And yet to HIS disciples HE said:

I am doing away and you can not follow ME now...but you will later ( John 13)

Yes. Some can see/perceive and some cannot, yet. We perceive from self-soul or from spirit...our five senses or from within (where the Kingdom is...)

For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.


Duality within (two masters) But we are all where we are supposed to be, nothing out of order. For it is The Father who exalts in due time. The process cannot be circumvented of coming to the truth that we are IN HIM, and Him in us...a son (no gender implied).

Adam had a helper and a serpent in his garden. He once walked naked and not ashamed. Then suddenly perceived he was naked and ashamed...heard God's voice outside (of himself) in the garden. The Spirit of Truth promise..."the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth"

But He can only give us the promises we can see as possible to hope for...The rod of Moses' raised was the antidote for the bite of the serpent which is a picture of what the cross is to us....Christ/The Door (back) promises to make us blind that we might see/perceive all that was blocked from the first Adam's perception when he ate the feast prepared by the woman. Through The Door, we are invited to eat the feast prepared by The Father and served as we recline (enter His rest) at the table...having come in out of the field labouring for our bread....

 

[Aman777]

Okee dokee

It will also be very hard to say
LORD, LORD didn't ((((I)))) apart from the ONE who is THE SOURCE of LIFE

For really apart from CHRIST what can one do?

Die and then be judged and cast into the Lake of Fire and then be changed into a worm which dieth not, but exists in outer darkness, in a burned out Universe forever, alone, with self. Now, that's Hell. Amen?

 

[Aman777]

So these Christian martyrs of the BODY

Where are they reigning?

In Heaven
Or on the earth

Today, they are in Christ Spiritually, Who is in the 3rd Heaven/Multiverse. Jhn 14:2 Later today, at the end of the present 6th Day/Age, they will live again on planet Earth, where they will reign with Christ for a thousand years. Rev 20:4 From the description, it appears to be the people of the last days, which could be our time. God Bless you

 

[Aman777]

All in Adam will die

Amen, IF you are speaking of the physical body, BUT I also believe Jesus Who said:

Jhn 11:26 And whosoever liveth and believeth in Me shall never die. Believest thou this?

Christ has already made me immortal and I shall NEVER die. Amen?

 

[miknik5]

Yes. Some can see/perceive and some cannot, yet. We perceive from self-soul or from spirit...our five senses or from within (where the Kingdom is...)

For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.


Duality within (two masters) But we are all where we are supposed to be, nothing out of order. For it is The Father who exalts in due time. The process cannot be circumvented of coming to the truth that we are IN HIM, and Him in us...a son (no gender implied).

Adam had a helper and a serpent in his garden. He once walked naked and not ashamed. Then suddenly perceived he was naked and ashamed...heard God's voice outside (of himself) in the garden. The Spirit of Truth promise..."the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth"

But He can only give us the promises we can see as possible to hope for...The rod of Moses' raised was the antidote for the bite of the serpent which is a picture of what the cross is to us....Christ/The Door (back) promises to make us blind that we might see/perceive all that was blocked from the first Adam's perception when he ate the feast prepared by the woman. Through The Door, we are invited to eat the feast prepared by The Father and served as we recline (enter His rest) at the table...having come in out of the field labouring for our bread....

A double edged sword

If you think it right to be subtle in preaching the GOSPEL thinking that by this You are loving your brother as your own soul, then so be it


I will openly and boldly preach THE GOSPEL because of a "different love" of the souls of men

 

[miknik5]

Amen, IF you are speaking of the physical body, BUT I also believe Jesus Who said:

Jhn 11:26 And whosoever liveth and believeth in Me shall never die. Believest thou this?

Christ has already made me immortal and I shall NEVER die. Amen?

Do ALL believe?
Are ALL baptized into CHRIST by HOS LIFE-GIVING SPIRIT?

Have ALL heard the VOICE of THE SON of GOD

Or, as John 5 states, only those who have heard THE VOICE of THE SON of GOD have passed from death to life and will not come under condemnation?

 

[Aman777]

Do ALL believe?

No. There is both good and evil in the world.

*** Are ALL baptized into CHRIST by HOS LIFE-GIVING SPIRIT?

No. Atheists agnostics and phonies are not born again Spiritually from above.

*** Have ALL heard the VOICE of THE SON of GOD

No. Some have ears which cannot hear and eyes which cannot see.

*** Or, as John 5 states, only those who have heard THE VOICE of THE SON of GOD have passed from death to life and will not come under condemnation?

It's easy to hear the voice of God since His Spirit wrote the Bible. God is One in Christ. In Him dwelleth ALL the fulness of the Godhead bodily. Col 1:15 God Bless you

 

[PeaceJoyLove]

A double edged sword

If you think it right to be subtle in preaching the GOSPEL thinking that by this You are loving your brother as your own soul, then so be it


I will openly and boldly preach THE GOSPEL because of a "different love" of the souls of men

Loving thy neighbour as thy self does not involve a sword. I take no thought, for the more I love, the more He feeds me...

There is nothing wrong with your boldly preaching for everything is as it should be, nothing out of order as we use what we have received/perceived.


A rash speaker is like piercings of a sword, And the tongue of the wise is healing.

No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day.

It is written in the prophets, And they shall be all taught of God. Every man therefore that hath heard, and hath learned of the Father, cometh unto me.

Not that any man hath seen the Father, save he which is of God, he hath seen the Father.

 

[Aseyesee]

Ham the Father of Canann looked upon the nakedness of Noah, whereas Shem, and Japheth did not and took the responsibility to cover their father.

Nakedness is against God's nature and is symbolic of unrighteousness, although Adam and Eve were naked they were like infants as with innocence, having neither righteousness or sin until they broke the only commandment given.

Rom 7:11 For sin, taking occasion by the commandment, deceived me, and by it slew me.

The serpent, as is written in Genesis, was very subtil:

Gen 3:1 Now the serpent was more subtil than any beast of the field which the LORD God had made. And he said unto the woman, Yea, hath God said, Ye shall not eat of every tree of the garden?

The word "subtil" of which the Hebrew root signifies both "naked" and "subtle". The serpent was greatly and deceitfully unrighteous.

And the serpent said:

Gen 3:4 And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die:
Gen 3:5 For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil.

Satan has been deceiving mankind by making man think that he can sin and not die. The same unrighteous doctrines fill the world today:

2Th 2:10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.
2Th 2:11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:
2Th 2:12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

I believe where it says: "they should believe a lie," should say: " they should believe the lie".

And that is: Ye shall not surely die. Have a good Sabbath.

Hethatreadethit

We tend to look at incidents in the Bible as disconnected truths (from the one purpose God purposed in himself before the world was), rather then how they fit into the cohesive nature of all things (including the Bible).

The death of innocence causes us to become a stranger in a land not our own, which is the truth of a son in relationship to the woman that bore him.

 

[SBC]

Correction: God will be pleased when His creation is finished (Heb-brought to perfection) at the end of the present 6th Day which is FUTURE to our time. Then, God will rest from ALL of His work of creating because everything will be perfect. Gen 2:1

Correction - Gods creation.... WERE (past tense) FINISHED.

Gen.2
[1] Thus the heavens and the earth were finished, and all the host of them.

God was PLEASED with "HIS" work.

Not a newsflash, the behavior of some of Gods work is disappointing to God, and grieves His Heart......but that does not diminish God being pleased with His own work.

God Bless,
SBC

 

[miknik5]

Loving thy neighbour as thy self does not involve a sword. I take no thought, for the more I love, the more He feeds me...

There is nothing wrong with your boldly preaching for everything is as it should be, nothing out of order as we use what we have received/perceived.


A rash speaker is like piercings of a sword, And the tongue of the wise is healing.

No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day.

It is written in the prophets, And they shall be all taught of God. Every man therefore that hath heard, and hath learned of the Father, cometh unto me.

Not that any man hath seen the Father, save he which is of God, he hath seen the Father.

Do you believe everygtthing written in JOHN 17?

Specifically John 17:20?

And do you believe that those whom HE has called, who have heard HIS VOICE, have akso been told to "go" as HIS WITNESSES testifying and pointing all men to HIM?

Do you believe that what JESUS said, that he who receives you, receives HIM is truth?

Isn't that why HE said go and preach the GOSPEL and if the house does not receive you, shake off the dust from your feet as a testimony against them?