Adam ?

[Aseyesee]

GOD is a launderer

And HE does purify us
So that our faith (more precious than gold though tried in the fire) will prove genuine

Resulting in HIS GLORY and praise

He's also a gardener ...

 

[miknik5]

He's also a gardener ...

It's the same truth

HE does prune

 

[Aseyesee]

It's the same truth

HE does prune

Everything he is, are for us relational according to his purpose.


Maybe I should have made my user name Aswesee ...

 

[miknik5]

Everything he is are for us relational according to his purpose.


Maybe I should have made my user name Aswesee ...

Does this apply to all?

Even unbelievers?
Does HE discipline all HIS CHILDREN?

 

[Aseyesee]

Does this apply to all?

Even unbelievers?
Does HE discipline all HIS CHILDREN?

The story of Nebuchadnezzar, and the dream he recieved from God, and the process he went through over what it became to him shows we should not limit God in anyway.

 

[miknik5]

The story of Nebuchadnezzar, and the dream he recieved from God, and the process he went through over what it became to him shows we should not limit God in anyway.

That was a prophetic dream of exalted man who does not acknowledge GOD as GOD

Nebuchadnezzer, afterwards, after the tree was cut down, after all the treasures are removed, acknowledges GOD as GOD and that all that we have is from HIM who gives to both the wicked and the "righteous"

Nebuchadnezzer, in error, assumed all that he had was by his own hands


Look at all these kingdoms I have built
Immediately he was cut down

 

[Aseyesee]

That was a prophetic dream of exalted man who does not acknowledge GOD as GOD

Nebuchadnezzer, afterwards, after the tree was cut down, after all the treasures are removed, acknowledges GOD as GOD and that all that we have is from HIM who gives to both the wicked and the "righteous"

Nebuchadnezzer, in error, assumed all that he had was by his own hands


Look at all these kingdoms I have built
Immediately he was cut down

In the end God restored him, even adding excellent majesty to him.

Nebuchadnezzar was a rod in the hand of God, but God was just as concerned with him as he was with those he used him as a rod on.

 

[miknik5]

In the end God restored him, even adding excellent majesty to him.

Nebuchadnezzar was a rod in the hand of God, but God was just as concerned with him as he was with those he used him as a rod on.

And poor Nebuchadnezzer' son?Who knew all this about his father

Was GOD concerned for him?

Did GOD use and restore him

 

[miknik5]

Aseyesee,

You know 2 Thessalonians 2
(When he who holds all things back is taken out of the way)
You know job 1
(The hedge was removed)

You know Nebuchadnezzer's dream
(Daniel 4)

Will the outcome be one and the same for all men?

Revelation 9 says otherwise
So does revelation 16, Isaiah 8, and even jobs wife mouthed the same words

Some will not wait but will look up curse their God and their king

And be cast into utter darkness

But blessed the man who waits and trusts in THE LORD

 

[Aseyesee]

Aseyesee,

You know 2 Thessalonians 2
(When he who holds all things back is taken out of the way)
You know job 1
(The hedge was removed)

You know Nebuchadnezzer's dream
(Daniel 4)

Will the outcome be one and the same for all men?

Revelation 9 says otherwise
So does revelation 16, Isaiah 8, and even jobs wife mouthed the same words

Some will not wait but will look up curse their God and their king

And be cast into utter darkness

But blessed the man who waits and trusts in THE LORD

I don't disagree with you. I let the dead bury the dead; in one way, I don't go outside the city, yet let the river flow where ever it will, God is the gardener, my portion is without labor, though my bag overflows with seed.

 

[Hillsage]

Does this apply to all?

Even unbelievers?
Does HE discipline all HIS CHILDREN?

HEB 12:6 For whom the Lord loveth he chasteneth, and scourgeth every son whom he receiveth.

Doesn't He love all the "unbelievers" He died for? And a scourging discipline He has for his "every son".

People actually died just from being scourged. Which is one reason Jesus died sooner on the cross than most. Because most never received both a 'scourging' with 40 lashes...and then a 'death' sentence on the cross, on top of it.

 

[Aseyesee]

And poor Nebuchadnezzer' son?Who knew all this about his father

Was GOD concerned for him?

Did GOD use and restore him

To reiterate (not that all things are not yours), Nebuchadnezzar was a picture of something no less than his son was, or Judas, or John the Baptist, or casting out into the deep or the right side of a boat, none of it is about them as much as it is about the part they play of the unfolding of the purpose of God, it is repetitive in nature. God starts with one, and narrows it down to one again, and by default each of us are this one that God becomes all in all in. Everything testifies of him, and the process of coming to the truth that we are, as something defined by him, in him.

 

[miknik5]

HEB 12:6 For whom the Lord loveth he chasteneth, and scourgeth every son whom he receiveth.

Doesn't He love all the "unbelievers" He died for? And a scourging discipline He has for his "every son".

People actually died just from being scourged. Which is one reason Jesus died sooner on the cross than most. Because most never received both a 'scourging' with 40 lashes...and then a 'death' sentence on the cross, on top of it.

The wounds of .HIS chastisement was ours really

And yet

By HIS wounds we were healed?

All?

Please expand whobis being spoken of in Isaiah 53

Thank you

 

[PeaceJoyLove]

The first commandment in the Garden to Adam/Eve, "Thou shalt not eat..." A "fast"...very deep meaning to the word...

Psalm 58 in a song...

 

[Aseyesee]

Adam is set free by the keeping of it; both individually and collectively.

 

[Aseyesee]

HEB 12:6 For whom the Lord loveth he chasteneth, and scourgeth every son whom he receiveth.

Doesn't He love all the "unbelievers" He died for? And a scourging discipline He has for his "every son".

People actually died just from being scourged. Which is one reason Jesus died sooner on the cross than most. Because most never received both a 'scourging' with 40 lashes...and then a 'death' sentence on the cross, on top of it.

As an only son ...

 

[Ron Gurley]

Back to Basics:
OP: ADAM? When God had finished ALL of creation He saw that it was "good".(perfect!)

"DAY 6": Genesis:
31 God saw ALL that He had made (including A&E), and behold, it was VERY "good".
And there was evening and there was morning, the sixth day.

Genesis 1:26-28 (NASB)...Creation of Mankind...extracts and comments
26 Then God (ELOHIM=PLURAL) said,
"Let Us make man in Our (SPIRITUAL!)image, according to Our (good moral?) likeness;...
27 God created man in His own (SPIRITUAL!)image,
in the image of God He created him;(Mankind)
male and female He created them.
28 God blessed them; and God said to them,
"Be fruitful and multiply,(procreate) and fill (populate) the earth, and subdue it (planet earth);(ALL animals and plants)



God created ALL in perfection. He continues to INTERVENE in perfection

God is NOT dead, nor doth He sleep.

The ALL everything SOVREIGN TRI-UNE GOD ALLOWS "imperfections" to occur, ONLY to His GLORY!

He gave the spiritual gift of "free will" to Mankind + angels.

"Imperfections"/"evil" is the ABSENCE of God.

Evil: spirit beings, persons, places and things are CAUSED by:

1. The "world" (kosmos)= chaotic

2. the "flesh" (Man's sin nature)

3. The "devil"-> +demons = spirit beings allowed to attack Mankind.

 

[Hillsage]

As an only son ...

Not sure as to what you're saying. Are you saying this refers 'only ' to Jesus? If that's the case then I'd disagree based upon the quoted 'verse' where it says "every son"....being 'plural'. Therefore not talking about 'Jesus' only, which would be singular.

HEB 12:6 For whom the Lord loveth he chasteneth, and scourgeth every son whom he receiveth.

But, if you're referring to only those who reach manifested, or mature "son" status, I'd agree.

 

[Aseyesee]

Not sure as to what you're saying. Are you saying this refers 'only ' to Jesus? If that's the case then I'd disagree based upon the quoted 'verse' where it says "every son"....being 'plural'. Therefore not talking about 'Jesus' only, which would be singular.

HEB 12:6 For whom the Lord loveth he chasteneth, and scourgeth every son whom he receiveth.

But, if you're referring to only those who reach manifested, or mature "son" status, I'd agree.

It is not an issue of a tree for me (or one of two sons), God only has one son, and he the revelation of this son.

To look upon whom we have pierced is not exclusive truth, it is an inclusive one, just as every eye shall see.

 

[Aseyesee]

Back to Basics:
OP: ADAM? When God had finished ALL of creation He saw that it was "good".(perfect!)

"DAY 6": Genesis:
31 God saw ALL that He had made (including A&E), and behold, it was VERY "good".
And there was evening and there was morning, the sixth day.

Genesis 1:26-28 (NASB)...Creation of Mankind...extracts and comments
26 Then God (ELOHIM=PLURAL) said,
"Let Us make man in Our (SPIRITUAL!)image, according to Our (good moral?) likeness;...
27 God created man in His own (SPIRITUAL!)image,
in the image of God He created him;(Mankind)
male and female He created them.
28 God blessed them; and God said to them,
"Be fruitful and multiply,(procreate) and fill (populate) the earth, and subdue it (planet earth);(ALL animals and plants)



God created ALL in perfection. He continues to INTERVENE in perfection

God is NOT dead, nor doth He sleep.

The ALL everything SOVREIGN TRI-UNE GOD ALLOWS "imperfections" to occur, ONLY to His GLORY!

He gave the spiritual gift of "free will" to Mankind + angels.

"Imperfections"/"evil" is the ABSENCE of God.

Evil: spirit beings, persons, places and things are CAUSED by:

1. The "world" (kosmos)= chaotic

2. the "flesh" (Man's sin nature)

3. The "devil"-> +demons = spirit beings allowed to attack Mankind.

I don't disagree in a form, but God said it wasn't good for man to be alone, in contradiction to not only good, but very good as he had proclaimed.