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Colter

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It's hiding the talents under a rock

Who gave you your talents?
The talents are Living truths, not petrified scripture..... "here are the Bible books master, we added nothing to it nor took anything away, it is just as it was left." .....oh, and we killed and persecuted anyone who disagreed with what we petrified.
 
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The talents are Living truths, not petrified scripture..... "here are the Bible books master, we added nothing to it nor took anything away, it is just as it was left." .....oh, and we killed and persecuted anyone who disagreed with what we petrified.
I don't want to hear from the fleshly input of the men of Urantia

How dare them:

Here are the Bible books master?

They don't know THE MASTER

Which is why they went out/ progressed above and offered more
 
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Back to the doctrine of Christ colter


You said you are not indoctrinated in Christ

According to 2 John 1

That's a serious problem
Jesus didn't teach a "doctrine", he liberated us from the evil of doctrine formation. But the institutional church recreated the Sanhedrin.
So do you agree now that the prophets of OT know now what they were prophecying was CHRIST plus nothing?
in some areas they were speaking of the coming Son. Holy men in their day rejected them. Later generations of Holy men encorporated them into their new narratives. The same class of holy men rejected Jesus and still do. So Israel was abandoned as the light went West to more open minded people.
 
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I don't want to hear from the fleshly input of the men of Urantia

How dare them:

Here are the Bible books master?

They don't know THE MASTER

Which is why they went out/ progressed above and offered more
Jesus had more to reveal, Christianity had become lost in division and stubbornness. It's dying.
 
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No HE didn't

You say otherwise

John 13 through John 17 is jesus' dialogue to HIS disciples (those yesterday, those today and those tomorrow) about THE PROMISE of THE FATHER


Gal 3:8 And the scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the heathen through faith, preached before the gospel unto Abraham, saying, In thee shall all nations be blessed.

Gal 3:14 That the blessing of Abraham might come on the Gentiles through Jesus Christ; that we might receive the promise of the Spirit through faith.

Joh 8:56 Your father Abraham rejoiced to see my day: and he saw it, and was glad.

Woudn't it be more or less an assumption that Abraham did not understand what God was doing through him, and in him?
 
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Jesus didn't teach a "doctrine", he liberated us from the evil of doctrine formation. But the institutional church recreated the Sanhedrin.

in some areas they were speaking of the coming Son. Holy men in their day rejected them. Later generations of Holy men encorporated them into their new narratives. The same class of holy men rejected Jesus and still do. So Israel was abandoned as the light went West to more open minded people.
HE...is THE DOCTRINE
WE...are supposed to pay careful attention to THE FOUNDATION
HE...is THE FOUNDATION and
HE...is THE HEAD

WE...are supposed to REMAIN in HIM and not go out from HIM

1 John 2 and 2 John 1 should be read together
It defines those who REMAIN in what they began in

And those who don't
 
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Finish it up

HE said therefore I send you prophets so that upon you (the unbelieving who kill and stknevthise sent to them...including the prophets of old) shall come the blood (guilt) of all the prophets

From Abel to Zechariah

CHRIST will avenge the deaths of all those who spoke of HIM

Wonder why not of John who was the greatest?

Rev 18:24 And in her was found the blood of prophets, and of saints, and of all that were slain upon the earth.
 
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Gal 3:8 And the scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the heathen through faith, preached before the gospel unto Abraham, saying, In thee shall all nations be blessed.

Gal 3:14 That the blessing of Abraham might come on the Gentiles through Jesus Christ; that we might receive the promise of the Spirit through faith.

Joh 8:56 Your father Abraham rejoiced to see my day: and he saw it, and was glad.

Woudn't it be more or less an assumption that Abraham did not understand what God was doing through him, and in him?
At the time no he didn't
All he understood was that through a PROMISE and through a PROMISED SEED his children would be as numerous as the sands on the shore or the stars in the Heaven if he could count them

And when he was called to sacrifice his promised and named son, then he didn't fully understand what GOD was calling him to do

He didn't know then that this reenactment of a sacrifice of the promised son was really a sign to serve us pointing not to Isaac but to CHRIST..THE PROMISED SON AND THE PROMISED SEED

But he knows now
 
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HE...is THE DOCTRINE
WE...are supposed to pay careful attention to THE FOUNDATION
HE...is THE FOUNDATION and
HE...is THE HEAD

WE...are supposed to REMAIN in HIM and not go out from HIM

1 John 2 and 2 John 1 should be read together
It defines those who REMAIN in what they began in

And those who don't
That's your opinion, I have faith in God and seek to do his will. I'm a disciple of the gospel of Jesus.

You overcomplicate things and speak like a prophetess. Don't take yourself so seriously.
 
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At the time no he didn't
All he understood was that through a PROMISE and through a PROMISED SEED his children would be as numerous as the sands on the shore or the stars in the Heaven if he could count them

And when he was called to sacrifice his promised and named son, then he didn't fully understand what GOD was calling him to do

He didn't know then that this reenactment of a sacrifice of the promised son was really a sign to serve us pointing not to Isaac but to CHRIST..THE PROMISED SON AND THE PROMISED SEED

But he knows now
So the gospel was never preached to Abraham?
 
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JESUS even said
Abraham longed to see MY day
He saw it and was glad of it
And that's true. Those who came after Abraham speculated and developed certain ideas about their place in the world. Jesus tried to teach the original gospel to them but they refused to believe it.
 
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That's your opinion, I have faith in God and seek to do his will. I'm a disciple of the gospel of Jesus.

You overcomplicate things and speak like a prophetess. Don't take yourself so seriously.
HIS WILL is clearly stated not only in Deuteronomy 18 but also in John 6 and are in agreement
 
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And that's true. Those who came after Abraham speculated and developed certain ideas about their place in the world. Jesus tried to teach the original gospel to them but they refused to believe it.
Don't worry about that generation before

When HE went by THE SPIRIT to that generation before, you can rest assured they listened and no one rejected THE TRUTH spoken by THE TRUTH

Even the men of Ninevah will stand in the judgement and condemn this generation for their unbelief
 
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The Bible was written by the kind of men who rejected Christ. They compiled truth and untruth. I trust Gods Living truth.


29“Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You build tombs for the prophets and decorate the graves of the righteous. 30And you say, ‘If we had lived in the days of our ancestors, we would not have taken part with them in shedding the blood of the prophets.’ 31So you testify against yourselves that you are the descendants of those who murdered the prophets. 32Go ahead, then, and complete what your ancestors started!
You follow another doctrine than that of Jesus Christ as written about in the Prophetss and New Testament. You cherry pick scriptures that fit to your reality, it seems, and call the rest of them heresy.

The Gospel that Jesus Christ and the Apostles preached aligned with Holy Scriptures. So, it seems we are comparing apples to oranges and neither the two will ever be the same.

I will not discuss the matter further, for I believe in the Holy Scriptures and you do not. You are free to choose and follow your own train of thought. Me, I have been given freedom and liberty - for His yoke is easy, all because I believed those scriptures.

I pray you find the Light of Life, Colter.
 
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He didn't know then that this reenactment of a sacrifice of the promised son was really a sign to serve us pointing not to Isaac but to CHRIST..THE PROMISED SON AND THE PROMISED SEED

But he knows now

And Abraham said, My son, God will provide himself a lamb for a burnt offering: so they went both of them together.
 
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