Adam ?

[miknik5]

Unrelated to what kind of body Jesus had in heaven.

This makes no sense

 

[miknik5]

It's the Greek word that means "the end" or "the last"; eschatology is "the study of last things". It refers to the final day, the coming of Christ, the last judgment, the resurrection of the dead, etc.

-CryptoLutheran

Thank you

 

[PeaceJoyLove]

oops

 

[ViaCrucis]

The gospel of Thomas is just one small writing that he had to write for God. These secret sayings contain knowledge of the invisible Word of God that cannot be understood by sinners. It can only be understood by the spirit of man who was born in the spirit of God.

I'll be quite honest, why on earth do you have the "Lutheran" identifier?

-CryptoLutheran

 

[PeaceJoyLove]

please tell me one time where THE FATHER called THE SON of GOD/THE SON of man "Ezekiel"

The name above names was given

It's not Ezekiel

A few examples of Ezekiel being called "Son of man"...


Ezekiel 2:1 And he said unto me, Son of man, stand upon thy feet, and I will speak unto thee.

Ezekiel 8:6 He said furthermore unto me, Son of man, seest thou what they do? even the great abominations that the house of Israel committeth here, that I should go far off from my sanctuary? but turn thee yet again, and thou shalt see greater abominations.

Ezekiel 8:17 Then he said unto me, Hast thou seen this, O son of man? Is it a light thing to the house of Judah that they commit the abominations which they commit here? for they have filled the land with violence, and have returned to provoke me to anger: and, lo, they put the branch to their nose.

Ezekiel 47:6 And he said unto me, Son of man, hast thou seen this? Then he brought me, and caused me to return to the brink of the river.

 

[miknik5]

A few examples of Ezekiel being called "Son of man"...


Ezekiel 2:1 And he said unto me, Son of man, stand upon thy feet, and I will speak unto thee.

Ezekiel 8:6 He said furthermore unto me, Son of man, seest thou what they do? even the great abominations that the house of Israel committeth here, that I should go far off from my sanctuary? but turn thee yet again, and thou shalt see greater abominations.

Ezekiel 8:17 Then he said unto me, Hast thou seen this, O son of man? Is it a light thing to the house of Judah that they commit the abominations which they commit here? for they have filled the land with violence, and have returned to provoke me to anger: and, lo, they put the branch to their nose.

Ezekiel 47:6 And he said unto me, Son of man, hast thou seen this? Then he brought me, and caused me to return to the brink of the river.

I know
But he's not THE son of man
Ezekiel has no authority over the sons of men. He is not THE FIRST

 

[PeaceJoyLove]

I know
But he's not THE son of man
Ezekiel has no authority over the sons of men. He is not THE FIRST

Sorry, did I miss it? Who said he was or did?

 

[Meowzltov]

Did God make Adam imperfect?

What do you mean exactly by perfect? God made Adam INNOCENT, meaning that he didn't know good from evil and was therefore not responsible. Like a toddler isn't responsible.

But did Adam have callouses on his feet? Could he have had broader shoulders? Was his hair unruly? Were his teeth crooked? Don't know don't care. He was probably physically imperfect in some ways. We all are. Is part of being created beings.

 

[PeaceJoyLove]

... I said we grow in experience here and beyond this life.

Scripture says whatever you bind on earth will be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be loosed in heaven. Could you please share the scipture/s that say we grow beyond this life?

 

[Aseyesee]

What do you mean exactly by perfect? God made Adam INNOCENT, meaning that he didn't know good from evil and was therefore not responsible. Like a toddler isn't responsible.

But did Adam have callouses on his feet? Could he have had broader shoulders? Was his hair unruly? Were his teeth crooked? Don't know don't care. He was probably physically imperfect in some ways. We all are. Is part of being created beings.

The meaning I left to those who read the question to determine.

... yep, God was the responsible party, and in a garden the death of innocence.

 

[Ron Gurley]

The Hebrew and Greek words for "perfect" at the hill a clearer meaning is "mature".… Not without flaw. There is only one without flaw and that is the spirit of the triune God

 

[Ron Gurley]

"Good" is the absence of evil"

 

[Ron Gurley]

All God created is "good". He gave "free will" two men and angels.

 

[Breckmin]

both Lucifer and Adam were perfectly good and perfect in the sense that they were perfectly meant to be (in the state they were) with freewill. Both self-corrupted in different ways.

How could Adam be complete without ever knowing how much God loved him? Being completed by a process and being perfect or imperfect are two distinct things. Both started off "righteous" but freewill allows for self-corruption and in tainting one's self in God's universe.

In heaven or hell we will be complete in our final destinies.
that is when "perfect" comes (yes, even eternal hell is perfect when you understand its justice)

 

[miknik5]

Sorry, did I miss it? Who said he was or did?

Only if you are also suggesting that Ezekiel being called son of man is no different than JESUS being called THE SON of man

 

[Ron Gurley]

No person nor spirit has ever been or become "perfect". Only the spirit of the triune God is without flaw

 

[Anguspure]

"Good" is the absence of evil"

More to the point evil is the absence of Good. Evil is nothing and Good is something.

 

[Colter]

Scripture says whatever you bind on earth will be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be loosed in heaven. Could you please share the scipture/s that say we grow beyond this life?

Binding on earth and in heaven is about how the disciples decided to proceed with the kingdom after Jesus left. That has nothing to do with continued growth in spirit after we leave earth.

"Happy are they who hunger and thirst for righteousness for they shall be filled."

What did you think we were going to do in the afterlife, sit around for an eternity?

 

[Aseyesee]

I know
But he's not THE son of man
Ezekiel has no authority over the sons of men. He is not THE FIRST

Technically he is his mother's son, or seed of the woman.

 

[Aseyesee]

both Lucifer and Adam were perfectly good and perfect in the sense that they were perfectly meant to be (in the state they were) with freewill. Both self-corrupted in different ways.

How could Adam be complete without ever knowing how much God loved him? Being completed by a process and being perfect or imperfect are two distinct things. Both started off "righteous" but freewill allows for self-corruption and in tainting one's self in God's universe.

In heaven or hell we will be complete in our final destinies.
that is when "perfect" comes (yes, even eternal hell is perfect when you understand its justice)

That would be one definition of the word perfect ... depends on where you are seeing from, or where you are at in the journey, so to speak, like Moses, who saw the Promise Land from Mount Nebo.

The bible says hell was created for the devil and his angels, but was it not for and known to God before he ever created the first angel, that man (which he would create) would be there as well? It sounds redundant, I made it for them, not for them, but I already knew they'd be there to before I made it