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Adam was tempted by Eve's flesh and his love for her. Eve ate first and was the first to lose her Shekinah Glory which covered her. Adam, like many men, sinned on purpose. He had desired Eve even BEFORE she was made flesh. His first words are:

Gen 2:24 Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh.
You can look at it that way Aman... but you could also look at it this way..... Eve sinned and she was going to die. Adam hadn't sinned yet and would not have died. Perhaps the first Adam gave his life (ate) for the bride just as the second Adam gave his life for his bride.
 
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Not so, since there is NO death in the Kingdom of God. It's because Adam was made to live forever and gave up his immortality to satisfy his flesh. Adam's sin was small when compared to modern day sinning but God can only live with sinlessly perfect people. Can you tell us HOW to be perfect? Mat 5:48

It never says he gave up his immortality, but that God drove him from the garden lest he did eat and live forever.

The kingdom of God (in one form) is likened to a seed that falls to the ground, which without this process is said to abide alone.

How to be perfect (like all things God) is a matter of faith.
 
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Simple. It insures that ONLY by Faith can one be saved. That is WHY God hid His Truth in the discoveries of Science in the last days before Jesus returns. Dan 12:4

Why a need to have a person saved only by faith?
 
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It was not good for man to be alone, yet God's remedy (knowingly by him), brings him to a death.
Yet he could have created man without this deficiency or need. Wouldn't that have made man more in God's image since God needs nothing? I mean, it can never be said that it's not good for God to be alone because he needs a helper since that would imply a deficiency.
 
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Yet he could have created man without this deficiency or need. Wouldn't that have made man more in God's image since God needs nothing? I mean, it can never be said that it's not good for God to be alone because he needs a helper since that would imply a deficiency.

An image is an interesting notion to consciousness, much like what is in a word.

God forms man from the dust of the earth, which is the similar language as to where God said he does not live in; but God had to start somewhere ...
 
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Jacob's troubles happen long BEFORE our Cosmos is burned and death is destroyed. We will continue to live on the present 6th Day/Age until Heaven is filled with born again Christians. THEN, Jesus will return and give us dominion over viruses, mosquitoes, Angels AND every other living creature, as Genesis 1:28 shows.
What about the 1000 year reign?

Where do you place this period of time?

Before.

Or after the cosmos is burned and death is destroyed?


This seems to be a temporary period of peace...
 
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What about the 1000 year reign?

Where do you place this period of time?

Before.

Or after the cosmos is burned and death is destroyed?


This seems to be a temporary period of peace...

"one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day."

Psalm 90:1 Lord, thou hast been our dwelling place in all generations.

2 Before the mountains were brought forth, or ever thou hadst formed the earth and the world, even from everlasting to everlasting, thou art God.

3 Thou turnest man to destruction; and sayest, Return, ye children of men.

4 For a thousand years in thy sight are but as yesterday when it is past, and as a watch in the night.

The kingdom comes not by observation outside (physical world perceived with the five senses), for it is within us...which always comes back to the question God asked (after the change of eyesight) to Adam in the garden, "Where art thou?" which relates to the call to "Come out of her" in relation to our soul journey/process.
 
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"one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day."

Psalm 90:1 Lord, thou hast been our dwelling place in all generations.

2 Before the mountains were brought forth, or ever thou hadst formed the earth and the world, even from everlasting to everlasting, thou art God.

3 Thou turnest man to destruction; and sayest, Return, ye children of men.

4 For a thousand years in thy sight are but as yesterday when it is past, and as a watch in the night.

The kingdom comes not by observation outside (physical world perceived with the five senses), for it is within us...which always comes back to the question God asked (after the change of eyesight) to Adam in the garden, "Where art thou?" which relates to the call to "Come out of her" in relation to our soul journey/process.
Yes exactly

One day is as a thousand years
and a thousand years as a day...

Which is why even during this temporal period of peace, GOD already foreknew at the end, there will be those who will rebel
 
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Amen, but then his desire for her kicked in. Amen?
With all those animals having sex he knew he was missing out on something before she was created and his imagination must have kicked in. He also must have surely noticed the physical resemblance between himself and other mammals-especially the apes and noticed their sexual differences and have expected to be soon provided with a similar companionship albeit human..

BTW
I once mentioned this to a female bible student JWS who was greatly offended by it and insisted that Adam went around totally oblivious to his surroundings in relation to sex. Where she derived that notion from is anybody's guess since it isn't found in their literature.
 
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Yes exactly

One day is as a thousand years
and a thousand years as a day...

Which is why even during this temporal period of peace, GOD already foreknew at the end, there will be those who will rebel
Yes exactly

One day is as a thousand years
and a thousand years as a day...

Which is why even during this temporal period of peace, GOD already foreknew at the end, there will be those who will rebel
Adam lived 930 years, falling short by 70 years of a Day of the Lord/1000 years. "For thus saith the Lord, That after seventy years be accomplished at Babylon I will visit you, and perform my good word toward you, in causing you to return to this place."

What happened to Israel in scripture is the narrative of our soul journey/process taking place within.

EDIT: fixed 970, should have been 930.
 
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UnScriptural since darkness was present in the air, dust and water which God created apart from Himself in the beginning. Gen 1:1-2 Death shall also be the last enemy to be destroyed. 1Co 15:26 Adam's sin brought death to Humankind.

Rom 5:12 Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:

I don't see the humor that you see Ken. Adam's sin was INHERITED along with his superior intelligence, which is like God's, according to Gen 3:22. Sin and death will continue until Jesus returns at Armageddon.
 
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You can look at it that way Aman... but you could also look at it this way..... Eve sinned and she was going to die. Adam hadn't sinned yet and would not have died. Perhaps the first Adam gave his life (ate) for the bride just as the second Adam gave his life for his bride.

Just one more fact to add to your understanding. Adam and Eve were like the Angels in Heaven, and like Christians will be in Heaven. Mar 12:25 There will be NO sex since God has something better. Amen?
 
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It never says he gave up his immortality, but that God drove him from the garden lest he did eat and live forever.

Amen, but 930 years after he and Eve were born again Spiritually or created in God's Image, Adam died.

*** The kingdom of God (in one form) is likened to a seed that falls to the ground, which without this process is said to abide alone.

How to be perfect (like all things God) is a matter of faith.

Amen. The ONLY way to be perfect is to be in Christ Spiritually, created Eternally by God the Trinity. Gen 1:26 Gen 5:1-2 and John 14:16 God Bless you
 
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Just one more fact to add to your understanding. Adam and Eve were like the Angels in Heaven, and like Christians will be in Heaven. Mar 12:25 There will be NO sex since God has something better. Amen?
Hey, thanks for adding to my understanding. Cause clearly I don't have any understanding.
 
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It was not good for man to be alone, yet God's remedy (knowingly by him), brings him to a death.

Amen and God knew this BEFORE Jesus made Adam from the dust. Here's how we know:

Rev 13:8 And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.
 
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Why a need to have a person saved only by faith?

It insures that one must believe that God will save him from his own sins. Only God can see a person's faith.

Heb 11:6 But without faith it is impossible to please Him: for he that cometh to God must believe that He is, and that He is a rewarder of them that diligently seek Him.
 
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