Adam Before Eve

[EternalDragon]

Where does the Bible say Perfectly Made?

Genesis 1:31
And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day.

If you want the original Hebrew meaning so it is clearer for you, I can provide it.

 

[pgp_protector]

Genesis 1:31
And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day.

If you want the original Hebrew meaning so it is clearer for you, I can provide it.

Would love it, None of the Hebrew Definitions I'm seeing can be translated as Perfect.

Genesis 1 - Hebrew English Translation Massoretic Text MT Interlinear Holy Name King James Version KJV Strong's Concordance Online Parallel Bible Study
Strong's Number 3966 Hebrew Dictionary of the Old Testament Online Bible with Strong's Exhaustive Concordance, Brown Driver Briggs Lexicon, Etymology, Translations Definitions Meanings & Key Word Studies - Lexiconcordance.com
Strong's Number 2896 Hebrew Dictionary of the Old Testament Online Bible with Strong's Exhaustive Concordance, Brown Driver Briggs Lexicon, Etymology, Translations Definitions Meanings & Key Word Studies - Lexiconcordance.com
Strong's Hebrew: 2896. ???? (towb) -- beautiful
Strong's Hebrew: 3966. ????? (meod) -- muchness, force, abundance

 

[EternalDragon]

Would love it, None of the Hebrew Definitions I'm seeing can be translated as Perfect.

Genesis 1 - Hebrew English Translation Massoretic Text MT Interlinear Holy Name King James Version KJV Strong's Concordance Online Parallel Bible Study
Strong's Number 3966 Hebrew Dictionary of the Old Testament Online Bible with Strong's Exhaustive Concordance, Brown Driver Briggs Lexicon, Etymology, Translations Definitions Meanings & Key Word Studies - Lexiconcordance.com
Strong's Number 2896 Hebrew Dictionary of the Old Testament Online Bible with Strong's Exhaustive Concordance, Brown Driver Briggs Lexicon, Etymology, Translations Definitions Meanings & Key Word Studies - Lexiconcordance.com
Strong's Hebrew: 2896. ???? (towb) -- beautiful
Strong's Hebrew: 3966. ????? (meod) -- muchness, force, abundance

Yes, exceedingly good in a very wide sense. I know none of us can envision a perfectly created world without sin but that is what it was.

 

[Mr Strawberry]

Yes, exceedingly good in a very wide sense. I know none of us can envision a perfectly created world without sin but that is what it was.

Very good and perfect are too different things.

 

[EternalDragon]

Very good and perfect are too different things.

Like too and two?

You guys always like to scramble the definitions for some reason, don't
you? And I always correct you. Perhaps you don't have a solid grasp of
English?

per·fect
adjective
adjective: perfect
ˈpərfikt/


1.
having all the required or desirable elements, qualities, or characteristics; as good as it is possible to be.

 

[Mr Strawberry]

In your world, is "as good as it is possible to be" the same as 'very good'?

 

[EternalDragon]

In your world, is "as good as it is possible to be" the same as 'very good'?

That's what the Hebrew words mean. Have you not been
following along?

 

[Mr Strawberry]

That's what the Hebrew words mean. Have you not been
following along?

It means which? Very good or perfect?

 

[EternalDragon]

It means which? Very good or perfect?

You keep repeating yourself.

"Exceedingly the best, in a very wide sense" is the same as the
definition for perfect.

Question: How much grammar have you had in school? Have you
studied synonyms in depth at all?

 

[Mr Strawberry]

You keep repeating yourself.

"Exceedingly the best, in a very wide sense" is the same as the
definition for perfect.

Question: How much grammar have you had in school? Have you
studied synonyms in depth at all?

It was exceedingly good the last time you quoted it. Now it's exceedingly the best? And neither of those mean perfect. Something can be the best or exceedingly the best without being perfect. Very good does not mean perfect. None of your definitions for the translation seem to mention the word 'perfect'. Why is that?

 

[EternalDragon]

It was exceedingly good the last time you quoted it. Now it's exceedingly the best? And neither of those mean perfect. Something can be the best or exceedingly the best without being perfect. Very good does not mean perfect. None of your definitions for the translation seem to mention the word 'perfect'. Why is that?

So then what does "very good" mean to you then?

 

[Lost Angel]

Question.

How long was Adam Alone before God created Eve?

According to Genesis 2/3
1) God formed man from the dust
2) then planted a garden & put the man in the garden
3) then grew every tree that's pleasant to the sight
4) then had the man put in the garden of Eden to dress it & keep it
5) then instructed him to Not eat of the tree of knowledge of good and evil
6) then decided to make a help meet for him
7) but first. God then formed every beast of the field, fowl of the air & Adam had to name them
8) then Adam gave names to all cattle, fowl, and beast of the field.
9) after all that was done, THEN God made Adam go into a deep sleep & created Eve.

So how long did it take to make the Garden, Trees, All the Beast / fowl / Cattle and then Name all the Cattle, Fowl, and Beast ?

I would say there is insufficient information. The stories in The Christian Bible are open to a great deal of interpretation. Comprehensive texts are typically built upon heavy interpretation and opinion.

Personally,I can't read through the sparse creation accounts without coming up with many questions.

Answering your OP, I don't know how long transpired between these events.

 

[bhsmte]

So then what does "very good" mean to you then?

It certainly doesn't mean perfect.

 

[Mr Strawberry]

So then what does "very good" mean to you then?

Very good can mean many things. But used in terms of a qualitative assessment it means better than just good. But before we get carried away, something can be, in the old phrase, 'very good but not perfect'. Perfect is an exemplary, an ideal. Very good doesn't have that inherent meaning.

What would be interesting would be to know if biblical hebrew had a specific word for 'perfect', or if you are having to draw assumptions because ancient hebrew lacked the vocabulary of modern english. Or perhaps the whole concept of perfection in this context is something that only became important with much later interpretations.

 

[pgp_protector]

Very good can mean many things. But used in terms of a qualitative assessment it means better than just good. But before we get carried away, something can be, in the old phrase, 'very good but not perfect'. Perfect is an exemplary, an ideal. Very good doesn't have that inherent meaning.

What would be interesting would be to know if biblical hebrew had a specific word for 'perfect', or if you are having to draw assumptions because ancient hebrew lacked the vocabulary of modern english. Or perhaps the whole concept of perfection in this context is something that only became important with much later interpretations.

I believe so.
http://lexiconcordance.com/hebrew/8549.html
http://www.bibleapps.com/hebrew/8549.htm

At least in the OT KJV the above it translated into perfect.

 

[EternalDragon]

Very good can mean many things. But used in terms of a qualitative assessment it means better than just good. But before we get carried away, something can be, in the old phrase, 'very good but not perfect'. Perfect is an exemplary, an ideal. Very good doesn't have that inherent meaning.

What would be interesting would be to know if biblical hebrew had a specific word for 'perfect', or if you are having to draw assumptions because ancient hebrew lacked the vocabulary of modern english. Or perhaps the whole concept of perfection in this context is something that only became important with much later interpretations.

The word perfect in Hebrew meant "complete". Like to be complete in your worship to God. "Extremely good/righteous etc. in a very wide sense" is a much better description of creation.

1 Kings 15:14
But the high places were not removed: nevertheless Asa's heart was perfect with the Lord all his days.

Our English word perfect can mean other things as well and doesn't necessarily mean "perfection". But here we are dealing with Hebrew words that were translated as best they could.

"I made the perfect sandwich." and "I made an extremely good, in every way, sandwich." are identical sentences.

 

[Tallguy88]

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[Loudmouth]

For a start Adam certainly didn't know anything about sex so why would he need a wife?

Kind of begs the question of whether or not Adam was created with any wedding tackle, if you know what I mean. And here all this time we were focused on his navel.