Actually worried about HELL?

[numberprophet]

test

 

[numberprophet]

Hello

 

[numberprophet]

love this place

 

[numberprophet]

anyone here been on an invisi-thread before??

 

[MQTA]

anyone here been on an invisi-thread before??

HELL no. So this is one?

 

[numberprophet]

yessir, check the LT index, you won't see it

 

[MQTA]

Hell froze over in December 1989. I know that for a fact! Someone told me something would NOT happen UNTIL Hell froze over. Well, it happened. And that day it was -4 with a wind chill of -18 and the cold went through me like knives.

So, no more hell.

 

[numberprophet]

really??

 

[LiberatedChick]

yessir, check the LT index, you won't see it

hmm...odd

 

[MQTA]

really!

hi there starelda

 

[numberprophet]

i don't think this one will be around too long, too many people are already subscribed

 

[urnotme]

I used to be worried about hell, as I was spiritually abused with hell-fire scenarios as a child. If I had my way that sort of abuse would be illegal. Now I don't worry about hell because the sick people that preach the hell-fire approach are just that, sick!

There is no fire in hell. I think the proper word for hell is gehinah from the hinnom valley which was a garbage dump for the dead bodies.
People who go to hell for eternity will just not be resurected. It is also translated hades which means the grave so really we all go to hell after we die but those who are judged unworthy will not be resurected. http://www.harvestherald.com/challenge.htm

 

[urnotme]

I used to be worried about hell, as I was spiritually abused with hell-fire scenarios as a child. If I had my way that sort of abuse would be illegal. Now I don't worry about hell because the sick people that preach the hell-fire approach are just that, sick!

The word 'hell' in the English Authorized Version is rendered from three different Greek words: Gehenna, Hades, and Tartarus. Scholars are in practical agreement that Hades and Tartarus should never have been rendered as 'hell' and such mistranslation has been a source of untold confusion. Therefore, the only Greek word which many scholars allow as properly rendered 'hell' is Gehenna; it's twelve New Testament occurrences are listed below. It should go without saying that if 'hell' is a place of eternal conscious torment, such a doctrine should be explicitly taught in those twelve verses containing the only Greek word which has legitimately (at least according to orthodox tradition) been rendered 'hell' in our English Bibles.

It should come as the utmost shock that NONE of these verses speak of eternal conscious torment. The problem lies not in what these verses say, but the assumptions which are brought to the text upon reading them. For example, when one reads a verse stating that some shall be 'cast into hellfire', they assume that such a verse is talking about a place of eternal torment beyond this life, although the passage never specifically states this. However, such verses are then quoted as 'proof' that such a place of eternal conscious torment exists

 

[numberprophet]

Double Post

 

[urnotme]

Double Post

That's why I edited it and put something from the article.

 

[MQTA]

well, it was a helluvan idea the Hellenists came up with. very powerful tool in keeping people unvoluntarily scared out of their minds

 

[numberprophet]

That's why I edited it and put something from the article.

you are invisible, the discussion is over.

 

[urnotme]

Hell froze over in December 1989. I know that for a fact! Someone told me something would NOT happen UNTIL Hell froze over. Well, it happened. And that day it was -4 with a wind chill of -18 and the cold went through me like knives.

So, no more hell.

So they won't burn they will freeze.

 

[urnotme]

Is that not exactly what mainstream Christianity does when it says that all sins will be forgiven if you believe? Seems like they don't take them seriously at all.

I and many others who do not believe in hell believe that we will all account for our sins and will be chastized for them wether in this life or the next, no free pass but no eternal torment either. Justice demands that correction be given, mercy demands that it not be any more severe than required to accomplish the task at hand.

The jews don't believe in hell and it is a mistranslation in our bibles. It was taken from the greeks idea of the immortality of the soul. http://www.geocities.com/inexileau/hell.htm
First of all we need to be aware that in the Tanach (Hebrew bible) the Greek / English translation call it the Old Testament, the word "Sheol" means the common grave of mankind. (Oxford dictionary) This Hebrew word appears 65 times in the Masoretic text, developed 500 -950 c.e. In the Catholic Douay Version, 1609 -1610.c.e. The word "hell" has been substituted for the word Sheol 63 times, and once only as pit, and once as death. In the King James Version, 1611 c.e. "Sheol" has been translated as "hell" 31 times, as the grave 31 times, and 3 times as the pit

Regarding the word "Sheol" this word appears often in The Psalms and in the book of Job. It refers to the place where all dead people go. It is represented, as a dark place in which there is no activity. So "Hell" in biblical writings is not a suitable word and needs close investigation.

Collier’s Encyclopedia Britannica, "Sheol" in Old Testament times, referred simply to the "abode of the dead."

The word "Hell" that is used today is not an appropriate translation.

It was Greek teaching on the immortality of the human soul that infiltrated religious thinking. The bible record shows that "Sheol" refers to mankind's common grave. The New Testament writings use the word * "Hades" as well as "Hell" and the Oxford dictionary describes *"Hades" as (Greek Mythology) lower world, abode of departed spirits. This is not an accurate word for common grave.

If one does a serious bible study, seeking out centre page references notes you can see that *"Hades" and "Hell" are inappropriate words. Whenever you see the words "Sheol" *"Hades" or "Hell" think of the common grave.

Some believe such as Jehovah witnesses, that "Hell" is not a place of fiery torment, but spiritual death, and on the Day of Judgment some to be raised to everlasting life, and some to everlasting death. "Gehenna" (Latin) "Valley of Hinnom" (Hebrew) may also be referred to as "Hell." in Greek / English bible translations. "Gehenna in New Testament was a place outside of Jerusalem, which was a smoldering fiery rubbish dump, for the disposal of rubbish and carcasses.

 

[Soul Searcher]

The jews don't believe in hell and it is a mistranslation in our bibles. It was taken from the greeks idea of the immortality of the soul. http://www.geocities.com/inexileau/hell.htm
First of all we need to be aware that in the Tanach (Hebrew bible) the Greek / English translation call it the Old Testament, the word "Sheol" means the common grave of mankind. (Oxford dictionary) This Hebrew word appears 65 times in the Masoretic text, developed 500 -950 c.e. In the Catholic Douay Version, 1609 -1610.c.e. The word "hell" has been substituted for the word Sheol 63 times, and once only as pit, and once as death. In the King James Version, 1611 c.e. "Sheol" has been translated as "hell" 31 times, as the grave 31 times, and 3 times as the pit

Regarding the word "Sheol" this word appears often in The Psalms and in the book of Job. It refers to the place where all dead people go. It is represented, as a dark place in which there is no activity. So "Hell" in biblical writings is not a suitable word and needs close investigation.

Collier’s Encyclopedia Britannica, "Sheol" in Old Testament times, referred simply to the "abode of the dead."

The word "Hell" that is used today is not an appropriate translation.

It was Greek teaching on the immortality of the human soul that infiltrated religious thinking. The bible record shows that "Sheol" refers to mankind's common grave. The New Testament writings use the word * "Hades" as well as "Hell" and the Oxford dictionary describes *"Hades" as (Greek Mythology) lower world, abode of departed spirits. This is not an accurate word for common grave.

If one does a serious bible study, seeking out centre page references notes you can see that *"Hades" and "Hell" are inappropriate words. Whenever you see the words "Sheol" *"Hades" or "Hell" think of the common grave.

Some believe such as Jehovah witnesses, that "Hell" is not a place of fiery torment, but spiritual death, and on the Day of Judgment some to be raised to everlasting life, and some to everlasting death. "Gehenna" (Latin) "Valley of Hinnom" (Hebrew) may also be referred to as "Hell." in Greek / English bible translations. "Gehenna in New Testament was a place outside of Jerusalem, which was a smoldering fiery rubbish dump, for the disposal of rubbish and carcasses.

Preaching to the choir I have studied the usage of the word hell quite a bit and have learned a lot in the last year or so.

Here is one of many interesting links I have found related to the subject
http://www.auburn.edu/~allenkc/tbhell.html