A Third Temple In Jerusalem, Breaking News?

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God commanded where the new temple and alter is to be built

THERE WILL BE TWO TEMPLES YET TO BE BUILT: THE THIRD ONE WILL BE THE TRIBULATION TEMPLE AS DOCUMENTED IN DAN.9:27; MT.24:15, 2 THES.2:4 AND REV.11:1-2. THE FOURTH ONE WILL BE THE MILLENNIAL TEMPLE CHRIST WILL BUILD HIMSELF ACCORDING TO ZECH.6:12-13, DESCRIBED IN EZ.40-47.

The following is the tribulation temple:

"Regardless of how the Lord works out the details, His plan will be brought to pass. In the meantime, many of the current events now taking place in and around Jerusalem and the Temple Mount are setting the stage for what will be a string of events that will usher in the second coming of Christ. The church is looking for the rapture, where Christ will take us in an instance to be with Himself for all eternity. Maranatha!"

By Thomas Ice, PhD.

Source: http://www.raptureready.com/featured/ic ... build.html [site has been moved]

The following is the Millennial kingdom of Christ temple:

Source: http://bible.ucg.org/bible-commentary/E ... fault.aspx


The temple described in the above link article is the Millennial temple Jesus will be the builder of Himself, according to Zech.6:12-13. However, there must also be a temple in existence when the 70 Week of Daniel takes place, which is also known as the seven year tribulation as well as the Day of the Lord. This is the tribulation temple as seen in Dan.9:27 and in 2 Thes.2:4, where the antichrist is going to profane by claiming himself to be God, and setting up the abomination of desolation. Though it is not recorded in the Scriptures, the tribulation temple will undoubtedly be destroyed during that dreadful period of time. Therefore, according to the Scriptures, there yet remains two Israeli temples yet to be built in Jerusalem.

Where does God command where the new temple and alter must be?


"...By this time, it was no longer permissible to build altars just anywhere. Now the restrictions were even greater. Certain sacrifices were still permitted at any hallowed altar, but not as many as before. When the two and a half Tribes that lived in Trans-Jordan built an altar, there was an uproar about it, until they explained that the altar was on the order of a banner, a reminder, not a place for sacrifices (see Joshua 22:9-34).

The ultimate plan was for a Holy Temple, where the mobile Sanctuary would find a permanent resting place, so to speak. The Torah explicitly commands that once the Holy Temple is built no sacrifices at all may be brought anywhere else. And that is irrevocable Law. Once the Holy Temple was dedicated and in operation, it was forbidden for Israelites to bring sacrifices anywhere else in the world.

For example, we find that the Torah says, "You may not worship Hashem your G-d in such a manner. This you may do only on the site that Hashem your G-d will choose from among all your tribes to place His Name there. You must seek His Presence, and you must go there. You will bring there your elevated offerings, your eaten sacrifices, your tithes, your hand-delivered elevated gifts, your general and specific pledges, the first born of your cattle and flocks...." (Deut. 12:4-6).

And the Torah continues, "You will not do then what we do here now, where each person does as he sees fit. For you have not yet come to the resting place and hereditary land that Hashem your G-d giving you. When you cross the Jordan and you settle the land that Hashem your G-d is allotting you, and Hashem has granted you safety from all your enemies around you, and you are living securely, there will be a place that Hashem will choose to rest His Name there. It is to there you must bring all that I command you, your burnt elevated offerings, your eaten sacrirfices, your tithes, your elevated gifts, and all your choice pledges that you might pledge to Hashem" (Deut 12:8-11).

As if this were not strong enough, the Torah warns us: "Watch yourself! Lest you bring your burnt elevated offerings in any place you see fit. Only in the place that Hashem will choose, somewhere from among your tribes, there shall your bring your burnt elevated offerings, and there you must do all that I command you concerning this." (Deut 12:13-14)

Once the Holy Temple was built, we were no longer permitted to bring sacrifices anywhere else.

And the clock could not be moved back. The earlier eras are gone, and cannot be restored. Once the Holy Temple was built, the Laws of all previous eras and situations were no longer relevant. That is what the Torah commands."

From the above, there is only one place God accepts for His temple to be and where the alter must be for the sacrificial ceremonies to worship Him from. On Mount Moriah in Jerusalem.


Source: Why do we no longer bring animal sacrifices?


Quasar92

There is only one temple and one sacrifice in the New Covenant.


Heb 10:5 Wherefore when he cometh into the world, he saith, Sacrifice and offering thou wouldest not, but a body hast thou prepared me:
Heb 10:6 In burnt offerings and sacrifices for sin thou hast had no pleasure.



Heb 10:16 This is the covenant that I will make with them after those days, saith the Lord, I will put my laws into their hearts, and in their minds will I write them;
(See the New Covenant promised in Jeremiah 31:31-34)

Heb 10:17 And their sins and iniquities will I remember no more.

Heb 10:18 Now where remission of these is, there is no more offering for sin.


Who is going to sew the temple veil back together again, since God ripped it in half on the day His Son was sacrificed at Calvary?

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God commanded where the new temple and alter is to be built

THERE WILL BE TWO TEMPLES YET TO BE BUILT: THE THIRD ONE WILL BE THE TRIBULATION TEMPLE AS DOCUMENTED IN DAN.9:27; MT.24:15, 2 THES.2:4 AND REV.11:1-2. THE FOURTH ONE WILL BE THE MILLENNIAL TEMPLE CHRIST WILL BUILD HIMSELF ACCORDING TO ZECH.6:12-13, DESCRIBED IN EZ.40-47.

The following is the tribulation temple:

"Regardless of how the Lord works out the details, His plan will be brought to pass. In the meantime, many of the current events now taking place in and around Jerusalem and the Temple Mount are setting the stage for what will be a string of events that will usher in the second coming of Christ. The church is looking for the rapture, where Christ will take us in an instance to be with Himself for all eternity. Maranatha!"

By Thomas Ice, PhD.

Source: http://www.raptureready.com/featured/ic ... build.html [site has been moved]

The following is the Millennial kingdom of Christ temple:

Source: http://bible.ucg.org/bible-commentary/E ... fault.aspx


The temple described in the above link article is the Millennial temple Jesus will be the builder of Himself, according to Zech.6:12-13. However, there must also be a temple in existence when the 70 Week of Daniel takes place, which is also known as the seven year tribulation as well as the Day of the Lord. This is the tribulation temple as seen in Dan.9:27 and in 2 Thes.2:4, where the antichrist is going to profane by claiming himself to be God, and setting up the abomination of desolation. Though it is not recorded in the Scriptures, the tribulation temple will undoubtedly be destroyed during that dreadful period of time. Therefore, according to the Scriptures, there yet remains two Israeli temples yet to be built in Jerusalem.

Where does God command where the new temple and alter must be?


"...By this time, it was no longer permissible to build altars just anywhere. Now the restrictions were even greater. Certain sacrifices were still permitted at any hallowed altar, but not as many as before. When the two and a half Tribes that lived in Trans-Jordan built an altar, there was an uproar about it, until they explained that the altar was on the order of a banner, a reminder, not a place for sacrifices (see Joshua 22:9-34).

The ultimate plan was for a Holy Temple, where the mobile Sanctuary would find a permanent resting place, so to speak. The Torah explicitly commands that once the Holy Temple is built no sacrifices at all may be brought anywhere else. And that is irrevocable Law. Once the Holy Temple was dedicated and in operation, it was forbidden for Israelites to bring sacrifices anywhere else in the world.

For example, we find that the Torah says, "You may not worship Hashem your G-d in such a manner. This you may do only on the site that Hashem your G-d will choose from among all your tribes to place His Name there. You must seek His Presence, and you must go there. You will bring there your elevated offerings, your eaten sacrifices, your tithes, your hand-delivered elevated gifts, your general and specific pledges, the first born of your cattle and flocks...." (Deut. 12:4-6).

And the Torah continues, "You will not do then what we do here now, where each person does as he sees fit. For you have not yet come to the resting place and hereditary land that Hashem your G-d giving you. When you cross the Jordan and you settle the land that Hashem your G-d is allotting you, and Hashem has granted you safety from all your enemies around you, and you are living securely, there will be a place that Hashem will choose to rest His Name there. It is to there you must bring all that I command you, your burnt elevated offerings, your eaten sacrirfices, your tithes, your elevated gifts, and all your choice pledges that you might pledge to Hashem" (Deut 12:8-11).

As if this were not strong enough, the Torah warns us: "Watch yourself! Lest you bring your burnt elevated offerings in any place you see fit. Only in the place that Hashem will choose, somewhere from among your tribes, there shall your bring your burnt elevated offerings, and there you must do all that I command you concerning this." (Deut 12:13-14)

Once the Holy Temple was built, we were no longer permitted to bring sacrifices anywhere else.

And the clock could not be moved back. The earlier eras are gone, and cannot be restored. Once the Holy Temple was built, the Laws of all previous eras and situations were no longer relevant. That is what the Torah commands."

From the above, there is only one place God accepts for His temple to be and where the alter must be for the sacrificial ceremonies to worship Him from. On Mount Moriah in Jerusalem.


Source: Why do we no longer bring animal sacrifices?


Quasar92
I see the Jews building a future temple in Jerusalem, but it won't be instructed by or blessed by God.

As Berean stated above, who's going to sew the veil in the temple that Jesus Christ rent on calvary, God's presence will not return to any earthly temple again.

Matthew 27:50-51KJV
50 Jesus, when he had cried again with a loud voice, yielded up the ghost.
51 And, behold, the veil of the temple was rent in twain from the top to the bottom; and the earth did quake, and the rocks rent;
 
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[Staff edit].

The subject is about stone building structures and has nothing at all to do with the spiritual temples you are off the subject about!


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The subject is about stone building structures and has nothing at all to do with the spiritual temples you are off the subject about!


Quasar92

The woman at the well agrees with you.

However, Christ corrected her in the passage below.


Joh 4:20 Our fathers worshipped in this mountain; and ye say, that in Jerusalem is the place where men ought to worship.

Joh 4:21 Jesus saith unto her, Woman, believe me, the hour cometh, when ye shall neither in this mountain, nor yet at Jerusalem, worship the Father.

Joh 4:22 Ye worship ye know not what: we know what we worship: for salvation is of the Jews.

Joh 4:23 But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him.

Joh 4:24 God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and truth.

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The woman at the well agrees with you.

However, Christ corrected her in the passage below.


Joh 4:20 Our fathers worshipped in this mountain; and ye say, that in Jerusalem is the place where men ought to worship.

Joh 4:21 Jesus saith unto her, Woman, believe me, the hour cometh, when ye shall neither in this mountain, nor yet at Jerusalem, worship the Father.

Joh 4:22 Ye worship ye know not what: we know what we worship: for salvation is of the Jews.

Joh 4:23 But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him.

Joh 4:24 God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.

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THERE WILL BE TWO MORE TEMPLES BUILT IN JERUSALEM

The tribulation temple:

Matthew 24:15 - When you see the “abomination of desolation,” spoken of through Daniel the prophet, standing in the holy place… From Dan.9:27.

2 Thessalonians 2:4 - "...so that he sets himself up in God's temple, proclaiming himself to be God"

Revelation 11:1 - "...Go and measure the temple of God and the alter..."

The Millennial temple:

Ezekiel 43:7 - "...this is the place of my throne...This is where I will live among the Israelites forever."

Ezekiel 43:27 - …your priests will your burnt offerings and peace offerings on the altar, and I will accept you, declares the Lord.

Zechariah 6:12 - Here is the Man whose name is the Branch, and he will…build the temple of the Lord.

At the present time there is no temple on the Temple Mount in Jerusalem, the location of both the first and second Jewish Temples. Instead, two Muslim shrines, The Dome of the Rock and the Al Aqsa Mosque, stand on the Temple Mount.

Meanwhile, the Jewish people to consider the Temple
Mount to be the most sacred place for Jews in all the world. No wonder the Temple Mount is a political powder keg and must be part of any formula for peace in the Middle East!

According to the Bible, a temple will once again stand on the Temple Mount. How and when the Temple Mount will be available for a future temple remains to be seen. Biblical prophecy “buffs” have proposed all
kinds of potential scenarios for how all of this could take place—everything from earthquakes to explosives to the collapse of the Temple Mount platform!

Some well-meaning Christians have felt that the biblical predictions of a future Temple should be spiritualized, saying that these prophecies
refer to the Church or to the individual Christian. Indeed, 1 Corinthians 3:16 makes it quite clear that the Church, as the body of Christ, is the spiritual temple of the Holy Spirit. And in 1 Corinthians
6:19 we are taught that the physical body of every individual believer is to be honored and kept clean, because it is the temple of the Holy Spirit. But these wonderful New Testament truths do not alter the
biblical predictions of a literal future Temple in Jerusalem.

The question of a future Temple gets more complicated when we realize that the Bible teaches that two temples are yet to stand on the Temple
Mount in the future. First will come a Tribulation Temple, followed by a Millennium Temple which will be built when the Lord returns and sets up His kingdom on this earth. Let's look at the Scriptures dealing with
these two future temples.

Check out the two links below for much more:

Here: http://www.templemount.org/TM34.html

Here: http://sonstoglory.com/ThirdTempleEzeki ... Temple.htm [No tribulation temple shown]


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THERE WILL BE TWO MORE TEMPLES BUILT IN JERUSALEM

The tribulation temple:

Matthew 24:15 - When you see the “abomination of desolation,” spoken of through Daniel the prophet, standing in the holy place… From Dan.9:27.

2 Thessalonians 2:4 - "...so that he sets himself up in God's temple, proclaiming himself to be God"

Revelation 11:1 - "...Go and measure the temple of God and the alter..."

The Millennial temple:

Ezekiel 43:7 - "...this is the place of my throne...This is where I will live among the Israelites forever."

Ezekiel 43:27 - …your priests will your burnt offerings and peace offerings on the altar, and I will accept you, declares the Lord.

Zechariah 6:12 - Here is the Man whose name is the Branch, and he will…build the temple of the Lord.

At the present time there is no temple on the Temple Mount in Jerusalem, the location of both the first and second Jewish Temples. Instead, two Muslim shrines, The Dome of the Rock and the Al Aqsa Mosque, stand on the Temple Mount.

Meanwhile, the Jewish people to consider the Temple
Mount to be the most sacred place for Jews in all the world. No wonder the Temple Mount is a political powder keg and must be part of any formula for peace in the Middle East!

According to the Bible, a temple will once again stand on the Temple Mount. How and when the Temple Mount will be available for a future temple remains to be seen. Biblical prophecy “buffs” have proposed all
kinds of potential scenarios for how all of this could take place—everything from earthquakes to explosives to the collapse of the Temple Mount platform!

Some well-meaning Christians have felt that the biblical predictions of a future Temple should be spiritualized, saying that these prophecies
refer to the Church or to the individual Christian. Indeed, 1 Corinthians 3:16 makes it quite clear that the Church, as the body of Christ, is the spiritual temple of the Holy Spirit. And in 1 Corinthians
6:19 we are taught that the physical body of every individual believer is to be honored and kept clean, because it is the temple of the Holy Spirit. But these wonderful New Testament truths do not alter the
biblical predictions of a literal future Temple in Jerusalem.

The question of a future Temple gets more complicated when we realize that the Bible teaches that two temples are yet to stand on the Temple
Mount in the future. First will come a Tribulation Temple, followed by a Millennium Temple which will be built when the Lord returns and sets up His kingdom on this earth. Let's look at the Scriptures dealing with
these two future temples.

Check out the two links below for much more:

Here: http://www.templemount.org/TM34.html

Here: http://sonstoglory.com/ThirdTempleEzeki ... Temple.htm [No tribulation temple shown]


Quassr92


Dispensational Futurism is a doctrine of ignorance, because it only works by ignoring certain passages of scripture.

It must ignore John 10:22, which is a reference to the festival of Hanukkah.
During the time of Christ and even today, Jews celebrate the rededication of the temple after it was desecrated by Antiochus Epiphanes, during 167 BC.

It promotes the temple in Revelation chapter 11 as a rebuilt temple, by ignoring the location of that temple in heaven in Revelation 11:19.

It takes the New Covenant confirmed by the Blood of Christ at Calvary in Daniel 9:27 (See Matthew 26:28, and Hebrews 8:6-13, and Hebrews 10:16-18) and converts it into a covenant with an antichrist not found in Daniel chapter 9, by adding a "gap" of time not mentioned by the angel Gabriel. This only works by ignoring the New Covenant promised in Jeremiah 31:31-34.

It also ignores the recent archeological findings which prove that the area now known as "the temple mount" is actually the remains of Roman Fort Antonia, which is about the same size and shape of other Roman Forts built during that time.
Very recently a small Roman amphitheater was excavated underground near what is now called "the wailing wall".
The Jews have been wailing at the remains of a Roman fort.
They ignored the words of Jesus in Matthew 24:1-3, and Luke 19:41-44, which said that not one temple stone would be left stacked upon another.


See the links below about the Roman Amphitheater and Roman Fort Antonia.

Archaeologists just discovered an ancient lost theatre near the Western Wall in Jerusalem

The Temple Mount and Fort Antonia

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Dispensational Futurism is a doctrine of ignorance, because it only works by ignoring certain passages of scripture.

It must ignore John 10:22, which is a reference to the festival of Hanukkah.
During the time of Christ and even today, Jews celebrate the rededication of the temple after it was desecrated by Antiochus Epiphanes, during 167 BC.

It promotes the temple in Revelation chapter 11 as a rebuilt temple, by ignoring the location of that temple in heaven in Revelation 11:19.

It takes the New Covenant covenant confirmed by the Blood of Christ at Calvary in Daniel 9:27 (See Matthew 26:28, and Hebrews 8:6-13, and Hebrews 10:16-18) and converts it into a covenant with an antichrist not found in Daniel chapter 9, by adding a "gap" of time not mentioned by the angel Gabriel. This only works by ignoring the New Covenant promised in Jeremiah 31:31-34.

It also ignores the recent archeological findings which prove that the area now known as "the temple mount" is actually the remains of Roman Fort Antonia, which is about the same size and shape of other Roman Forts built during that time.
Very recently a small Roman amphitheater was excavated underground near what is now called "the wailing wall".
The Jews have been wailing at the remains of a Roman fort.
They ignored the words of Jesus in Matthew 24:1-3, and Luke 19:41-44, which said that not one temple stone would be left stacked upon another.


See the links below about the Roman Amphitheater and Roman Fort Antonia.

Archaeologists just discovered an ancient lost theatre near the Western Wall in Jerusalem

The Temple Mount and Fort Antonia

.


Your flagrant claims that dispensational futurism is a doctrine of ignorance, comes from an insidious source who continually ignores the Scriptures refuting his remake in the interpretation of eschatology! My post #52 refutes you.


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[Staff edit].

You remain refuted![/QUOTE] Does Your Bible include the Letter to the Hebrews? It's in the New Testament. Kinda puts the kibosh on all the nonsense about third or fourth temples and a restart of temple sacrifice. You need to read it.
 
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Your flagrant claims that dispensational futurism is a doctrine of ignorance, comes from an insidious source who continually ignores the Scriptures refuting his remake in the interpretation of eschatology!
Read the Letter to the Hebrews and get back to us. It is, as I noted, in the New Testament.

My post #52 refutes you.
Actually, no, it doesn't. At all.
 
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Read the Letter to the Hebrews and get back to us. It is, as I noted, in the New Testament.

Actually, no, it doesn't. At all.


The Scriptures you obviously don't read, refute your statement, there will be no 3rd and 4th temple in Jerusalem.

Review Dan.9:27; 2 Thess.2:4; Rev.11:1-2; Zech.6:12-13, described in Ez.40-47. If that' not sufficient for you, there is much more from where these came from.

Ihave read the ook of Hebrews many times over, before you were ever thought of.


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Review Dan.9:27

Dan 9:27
[27] And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.

Matthew 24:15-16
[15] When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand: )
[16] Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains:

The problem is that you applied the antichrist to "he" of verse 27 and invented a 7 years peace treaty with national Israel where you believe they will build a third temple to fulfill these prophecies.

[Staff edit].

The "he" of verse 27 is Jesus Christ Himself, according to the context. He confirmed a covenant exactly what Hebrews wrote:

Hebrews 9:15-17
[15] And for this cause he is the mediator of the new testament, that by means of death, for the redemption of the transgressions that were under the first testament, they which are called might receive the promise of eternal inheritance.
[16] For where a testament is, there must also of necessity be the death of the testator.
[17] For a testament is of force after men are dead: otherwise it is of no strength at all while the testator liveth.

This is the same "he" found on Daniel 9:27. He is the one who have confirmed a new covenant (testament) by his death. This is HOW the covenant is confirmed or become a force. It is like your will. When you die, your will become a force. Likewise, Christ must go to the cross to die so that the covenant for our redemption and inheritance will become a force!

Jesus Christ is our high priest, making offerings to God the Father, on our behalf until He has finished sealed all of His people (Revelation 7:1-4), not everyone. Only the people (many) whom he had made a covenant with. THEN He will be the one who has caused the sacrifice and the obligation needed for salvation to cease and the great tribulation will commence as He prophesied in His Olivet Discourse, as well as the book of Daniel and Revelation concerning our days prior to Second Coming.

The "holy place" or the temple at this time of the Cross where the abomination of desolation will be set up, is the CHURCH. Not physical third temple. Don't forget that it is with the church whom Christ confirmed a covenant with at the Cross, which is why there was Pentecost.

2 Thess.2:4

2 Thessalonians 2:3-4
[3] Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;
[4] Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.

Two things that must take place before our gathering with Christ in the air is the apostasy (not rapture as Quasar believe), and the revelation of Satan working through men. God is talking about the church as the temple of God on this side of the Cross. This is WHERE we will see the rise of false prophets and christs to deceive many with lyings signs and wonders as the rest of 2nd Thessalonians 2 said.

Nothing is said about third temple or one supernatural antichrist ruling in Jersualem. That [staff edit] will never take place.

Rev.11:1-2

Revelation 11:1-2
[1] And there was given me a reed like unto a rod: and the angel stood, saying, Rise, and measure the temple of God, and the altar, and them that worship therein.
[2] But the court which is without the temple leave out, and measure it not; for it is given unto the Gentiles: and the holy city shall they tread under foot forty and two months.

God did not talk about physical temple or city here at all! The Holy City is a spiritual city!

What you failed to understand Quasar is the "reed is like a rod" to signify that it is a figure of the 'Word of God' which is the rule of God, the correction of God, and that which 'defines' the exact measurements of the Sacrifice, the Holy Temple, and of the sons of God who worship therein. The Word of God shows the true dimensions and is that which illustrates when we are in need of moving to conform to a standard. The Word is the rule of God intended for everything from discipline, to a comparison, to estimation, to evaluation and guidance. The Word is a spiritual rod which corrects us by showing us what is the true form, and thus we see the symbolism here of measurement. It was given John to measure the temple of God, and the altar, and them that worship therein. For example, the Word is the rule of God, the very yardstick against which the Temple body and worshippers therein may be tested for trueness. And this is 'explicitly' shown to be true in an almost identical episode of this command to measure the Temple which is recorded in the book of Ezekiel.

Ezekiel 40:5
  • "And behold a wall on the outside of the house round about, and in the man's hand a measuring reed of six cubits long by the cubit of a hand breadth: so He measured the breadth of the building, one reed; and the height, one reed."
Again, this language of measuring the Temple of God signifies showing the true dimensions of the Temple. In other words, describe what true form it is.

THIS is the body of Christ, the Holy Temple of God measured every part. This is why the 'exact' dimensions were spelled out so specifically in the building of the literal Temple in the old Testament. God did NOT give us that information just so we might 'literally' build it again like you believe, Quasar, but to 'illustrate' and paint a spiritual picture to us that the Lord has 'exact' dimensions for His Spiritual house, and anything that didn't conform (measure up) to the Lord's commandments or specifications, didn't belong there. The measuring implies an exact calculation of the temple, and those who worship therein! Selah!

Now, what about the court which is WITHOUT the temple? Please pay attention to this...

When we understand the truth of this being a spiritual Temple, then the reason the court is not included for, and therefore cannot be measured part of the Temple. Thus the court 'outside' of the Temple's dimensions symbolize the place of those who externally or covenantally link themselves with Christ (For example, professed Christians) but who are not truly raised up in Christ. In other words, they have joined the external Covenant Churches, saying they are part of the Holy Temple, but they have not truly entered therein.

Those who want to be linked with the Temple, but do not like abiding within the 'strict dimensions' which God has established for His house, remain outside. Spiritually, they are those who have never been risen with Christ. In the real sense, they are lying to themselves (1st John 2:3-5) by linking themselves to the Temple without entering therein. For all they have is a name, and an external Covenant association, but they have no seal, or power, and none of the righteousness which comes with true Salvation. It is easy to see why the court is not measured in this imagery, because as this measuring is by the Lord's scepter of righteousness, and for the correction and illumination of His elect, only those who conform to Christ's image are measured as the Temple. The rest are not to be included in the dimensions of God's House. While they have a certain form of Godliness, they deny the power of the Spirit and thus don't 'measure up' in works of righteousness. They stand without or outside the Temple in the wide court, being deceived that they are a part of the true body of Christ. Covenantally they are the external or corporate Church, but they are not the 'true' Church of those who was born from above.

That is why God is going to give the court to the Gentiles (heathen false prophets and christs) as a judgment for their unfaithfulness prior to Second Coming.

If that' not sufficient for you, there is much more from where these came from.

Of course, there are a lot more, but the real question is, do you really understand these Scriptures that God talked about? Really?

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It must be noted that the link above is to a strictly Jewish site. It contains references to converting from Christianity to Judaism.

The citation of such a source in support of "Christian doctrine" is no less than astonishing.

And, as I understand it, against forum rules.
 
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And, as I understand it, against forum rules.

At one time, the Sunday School material used by my church body came from Union Gospel Press.
One of the writers quoted from the Babylonian Talmud, on a regular basis.
The materials also said the New Covenant had not yet come into effect, since it was promised to Israel and Judah.
It was full of Dispensational Theology.
We no longer use that source.

We now use "The Gospel Project", which has been excellent.
It even had a whole lesson on the New Covenant of Christ.

The Two Peoples of God doctrine has led to Dual Covenant theology.

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Could This Be Possible, A Third Temple In Jerusalem?

Haaretz News:

Christians and Jews Now Compare Trump to Persian King Cyrus – Will He Build the Third Temple?
Like Cyrus 2,500 years ago, Trump is seen as an instrument of God. And the plan: to build the Third Temple on the Temple Mount – where the Al-Aqsa Mosque currently stands
Allison Kaplan Sommer Dec 16, 2017 11:16 PM

BreakingIsraelNews
Trump’s Jerusalem Declaration ‘Enormous Step Towards Bringing Third Temple’
By Adam Eliyahu Berkowitz December 7, 2017 , 9:30 am

CBNNews.com
Is Trump's Jerusalem Declaration an Opportunity to Build Third Temple?
12-12-2017

NewsWeek
Will Trump Hasten the Arrival of the Messiah? Jews and Evangelicals Think So
By Cristina Maza On 12/11/17 at 4:14 PM

WNDNews
Trump's Jerusalem declaration sparks talk of 3rd Temple Israeliactivist:'Words of prophecy are coming forth from the Bible and becoming facts'
Published: 12/10/2017 at 4:25 PM

Muslim Times
How can we build the Third Temple together?
By Zia H Shah on December 6, 2017

Do these verses ring a bell?


1Jo 2:22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.
1Jo 2:23 Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: (but) he that acknowledgeth the Son
hath the Father also.

1Jo 2:24 Let that therefore abide in you, which ye have heard from the beginning. If that which ye have heard from the beginning shall remain in you, ye also shall continue in the Son, and in the Father.


Jhn 15:4 Abide in me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself, except it abide in the vine; no more can ye, except ye abide in me.

Jhn 15:5 I am the vine, ye are the branches: He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit: for without me ye can do nothing.
Jhn 15:6 If a man abide not in me, he is cast forth as a branch, and is withered; and men gather them, and cast them into the fire, and they are burned.
Jhn 15:7 If ye abide in me, and my words abide in you, ye shall ask what ye will, and it shall be done unto you.
Jhn 15:8 Herein is my Father glorified, that ye bear much fruit; so shall ye be my disciples.
Jhn 15:9 As the Father hath loved me, so have I loved you: continue ye in my love.


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This gives a whole new meaning to the "wheat and tares" parables.
 
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