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It doesn't live in your genitals, it lives in your biology; regardless of what goes on in your head.
No I'm talking natural science, not metaphysics or some type of philosophy. A simple biological examination will do. According to science, all humans are mammals. All mammals are either biological male or female regardless of what goes on inside of their heads.That's a philosophical and metaphysical assumption, it's not a given fact of reality. One would have to adopt a kind of biological reductionism to take that seriously, and I am not a biological reductionist in my metaphysics.
No I'm talking natural science, not metaphysics or some type of philosophy. A simple biological examination will do. According to science, all humans are mammals. All mammals are either biological male or female regardless of what goes on inside of their heads.
To recognize the truth concerning our biological realities does not in any way undermine the rights of anyone to self identify as they choose.That's taking a particular interpretation of scientific data and absolutizing it in an illiberal manner, in my estimation. To use science to undermine the rights of transpersons to their self-identity is the sort of measures I would expect out of the religious, not somebody claiming to be an atheist.
It doesn't live in your genitals, it lives in your biology; regardless of what goes on in your head.
My mistake. Gender is your biology, but gender identity is about what is in your head.Gender identity does not live in your head? Yes it does. It's your sense of your own gender, where else can it be other than your head? It's certainly not determined by your X/Y chromosomes!
To recognize the truth concerning our biological realities does not in any way undermine the rights of anyone to self identify as they choose.
Gender identity does not live in your head? Yes it does. It's your sense of your own gender, where else can it be other than your head? It's certainly not determined by your X/Y chromosomes!
No; that which is based in science is not sophistry, it's reality.When it comes to matters of equal treatment under the law, appeals to "science" are nothing more than sophistry.
No; that which is based in science is not sophistry, it's reality.
I'm reminded of an old saying; "your right to swing your fists ends where my face begins". People can believe whatever they want; but when they start insisting others around them believe as they believe, that is where the harm beginsIndeed. People are entitled to have inner lives of their own own, and to be forced to limit that to any particular scientific interpretation.
Really, who are transpeople hurting exactly?
Yes, it makes more sense than a lot of other ideas broadcast in the public arena.How about if we just don’t address it? When referring to men vs women, when deciding which public restroom or shower facility to use, when unsure to call someone a ma'am or sir, instead of assuming gender, why not just assume sex? The difference? Sex refers to biology, (XX vs XY chromosomes, sex organs, etc) where as gender refers to perceived social roles based on sex.
When I speak to people, if I use the pronoun he or she, I’m referring to their sex not their gender. I’m making an assumption of their biology, not whatever confusion they might have going on inside of their heads. If a biological woman identifies as a man, she shouldn’t assume I am addressing her identification when I call her she, this woman should assume I am referring to her biology.
Does this make sense? Your thoughts?
Ken
I'm reminded of an old saying; "your right to swing your fists ends where my face begins". People can believe whatever they want; but when they start insisting others around them believe as they believe, that is where the harm begins
Do you mean to include Yahuweh and Yahushua in with "Nobody"? as if God does not have direct access to reality? (the One True God Who is Sovereign Creator of all things and giver of all life ? )Nobody has direct access to reality as such
This is actually written in Scripture in various ways...I'm reminded of an old saying; "your right to swing your fists ends where my face begins". People can believe whatever they want; but when they start insisting others around them believe as they believe, that is where the harm begins
Do you mean to include Yahuweh and Yahushua in with "Nobody"? as if God does not have direct access to reality? (the One True God Who is Sovereign Creator of all things and giver of all life ? )
That's not what I said. I'm saying you can believe whatever you want, but when your beliefs begin to affect me, that's where the harm begins.You seriously think a choice of pronouns is equal to a broken nose?
So "no" is your answer then ?
That's not what I said. I'm saying you can believe whatever you want, but when your beliefs begin to affect me, that's where the harm begins.
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