A question about Job.

[Setyoufree]

As i stated earlier, my reference is what God Himself says about Job.

Yes, and if you would but read the rest of the book of Job you will learn that God was presenting to Satan Job's view of himself. It's very clear, but not to the blind.

"Then said his wife unto him, Dost thou still retain thine integrity? curse God, and die." ~Job 2:9

Again, she looked on the outside, God looks at the condition of heart. That's why folks are so easily fooled by those pretending to be something they aren't.

 

[brinny]

You missed my point...no biggie....

Peace, brother.

 

[Setyoufree]

You missed my point...no biggie....

Peace, brother.

You know what...we both do a lot of missing....We are both hardheaded....Maybe we should give it rest for a while....?

 

[Seeking Him]

Really? Only a legalistic Pharisee would justify his righteousness before God. Are you claiming such?

If your real with God you would. It's like saying. God I follow you to the best of my ability, why are you doing this to me? I haven't done anything wrong. Or, I don't deserve this, your being unfair. We all have behaved like Pharisees at some point in our walk. To deny that would also be Pharisee - like. It's part of fallen humanity or bring human. Or anger at God.

 

[Setyoufree]

If your real with God you would. It's like saying. God I follow you to the best of my ability, why are you doing this to me?

Because what you are presenting is salvation by works....I do my best and I'd like some credit please.

The Bible doesn't teach salvation partially by my works plus faith in Christ. It's all of Christ. I have nothing to offer Him. I am complete in Him.

 

[brinny]

Job 2:11-13

"Now when Job's three friends heard of all this evil that was come upon him, they came every one from his own place; Eliphaz the Temanite, and Bildad the Shuhite, and Zophar the Naamathite: for they had made an appointment together to come to mourn with him and to comfort him. And when they lifted up their eyes afar off, and knew him not, they lifted up their voice, and wept; and they rent every one his mantle, and sprinkled dust upon their heads toward heaven. So they sat down with him upon the ground seven days and seven nights, and none spake a word unto him: for they saw that his grief was very great."

Wisdom for the Heart

 

[brinny]

This dark chapter in Job's biography not only teaches us a valuable lesson about the heart of worship . . . it also teaches us an invaluable lesson about the heart of God ~Stephen Davey

Job is depressed, weary. He is lamenting. This chapter could also be called Job's Lamentations.

Wisdom for the Heart

 

[Seeking Him]

As a man of wealth and influence , Job became a kind of representative of a man of the Middle East.He is a key exhibit in the long panoramic battle for man's soul.
His life was a theatrical production. The Lord used him as a demonstration of faith under extreme testing. The message was for Satan and his angels, then for the faithfful angels, Job's life, a passion play, an encouragement for every believer, since he battled his way back from series of disasters. Job represents a microcosm of the universal groaning and travail brought by Satan's rebellion. Not only the physical creation but the heavenly spectators eagerly watching the redemption process. Like us they await the complete reconciliation.
Paul talks about us being a spectacle to the world, to angels, and to men. The Greek word is theatron, where we get our word theater. - Gary Stearman, Prophecy in the News.

 

[Setyoufree]

You guys keeping talking around the issue. After all, ignorance is bliss.

 

[Setyoufree]

Interesting:

Job 35 NKJV - Elihu Condemns Self-Righteousness - Bible Gateway

 

[brinny]

As a man of wealth and influence , Job became a kind of representative of a man of the Middle East.He is a key exhibit in the long panoramic battle for man's soul.
His life was a theatrical production. The Lord used him as a demonstration of faith under extreme testing. The message was for Satan and his angels, then for the faithfful angels, Job's life, a passion play, an encouragement for every believer, since he battled his way back from series of disasters. Job represents a microcosm of the universal groaning and travail brought by Satan's rebellion. Not only the physical creation but the heavenly spectators eagerly watching the redemption process. Like us they await the complete reconciliation.
Paul talks about us being a spectacle to the world, to angels, and to men. The Greek word is theatron, where we get our word theater. - Gary Stearman, Prophecy in the News.

Thank you. Yes i agree that this entire scenario was for a much greater purpose and was displayed for all of heaven to see, and that is interesting what Paul said about us being a spectacle as well. Profound.

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

You guys keeping talking around the issue.

After all, ignorance is bliss.

Since when?


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[brinny]

Since when?


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LOL!

 

[brinny]

Job 4-5

This is 2 chapters so i won't post them here. This sermon by Stephen Davey gives an astute perspective on Eliphaz's advice to Job.

Wisdom for the Heart

 

[brinny]

George Matheson was a preacher. He was blind. During one of his darkest most despairing chapters in his life he shares how this hymn came about:

"My hymn was com[bless and do not curse]posed in the manse of In[bless and do not curse]ne[bless and do not curse]lan [Ar[bless and do not curse]gyle[bless and do not curse]shire, Scot[bless and do not curse]land] on the ev[bless and do not curse]en[bless and do not curse]ing of the 6th of June, 1882, when I was 40 years of age. I was alone in the manse at that time. It was the night of my sister’s mar[bless and do not curse]ri[bless and do not curse]age, and the rest of the fam[bless and do not curse]i[bless and do not curse]ly were stay[bless and do not curse]ing over[bless and do not curse]night in Glas[bless and do not curse]gow. Some[bless and do not curse]thing hap[bless and do not curse]pened to me, which was known only to my[bless and do not curse]self, and which caused me the most se[bless and do not curse]vere men[bless and do not curse]tal suf[bless and do not curse]fer[bless and do not curse]ing. The hymn was the fruit of that suf[bless and do not curse]fer[bless and do not curse]ing. It was the quick[bless and do not curse]est bit of work I ever did in my life. I had the im[bless and do not curse]press[bless and do not curse]ion of hav[bless and do not curse]ing it dic[bless and do not curse]tat[bless and do not curse]ed to me by some in[bless and do not curse]ward voice ra[bless and do not curse]ther than of work[bless and do not curse]ing it out my[bless and do not curse]self. I am quite sure that the whole work was com[bless and do not curse]plet[bless and do not curse]ed in five min[bless and do not curse]utes, and equal[bless and do not curse]ly sure that it ne[bless and do not curse]ver re[bless and do not curse]ceived at my hands any re[bless and do not curse]touch[bless and do not curse]ing or cor[bless and do not curse]rect[bless and do not curse]ion. I have no na[bless and do not curse]tur[bless and do not curse]al gift of rhy[bless and do not curse]thm. All the other vers[bless and do not curse]es I have ever writ[bless and do not curse]ten are man[bless and do not curse]u[bless and do not curse]fact[bless and do not curse]ured ar[bless and do not curse]ti[bless and do not curse]cles; this came like a day[bless and do not curse]spring from on high."

O Love that wilt not let me go,
I rest my weary soul in thee;
I give thee back the life I owe,
That in thine ocean depths its flow
May richer, fuller be.

O light that followest all my way,
I yield my flickering torch to thee;
My heart restores its borrowed ray,
That in thy sunshine’s blaze its day
May brighter, fairer be.

O Joy that seekest me through pain,
I cannot close my heart to thee;
I trace the rainbow through the rain,
And feel the promise is not vain,
That morn shall tearless be.

O Cross that liftest up my head,
I dare not ask to fly from thee;
I lay in dust life’s glory dead,
And from the ground there blossoms red
Life that shall endless be.

In Job's dark chapter of despairing, he cries out to God. Job prays.

Job 6-7

Wisdom for the Heart

 

[brinny]

i'm reading Genesis 17, and i comes to verse one, near the end of it where God speaks to Abram.

"And when Abram was ninety years old and nine, the LORD appeared to Abram, and said unto him, I am the Almighty God; walk before me, and be thou perfect." ~Genesis 17:1

What did God mean when He said to Abram "be thou perfect"? And does it tie into what God says previous to that "walk before me"

And in verse 3 Abram falls on his face before God. Why did he do that?

"And Abram fell on his face: and God talked with him, saying,"

(What's this got to do with the book of Job, you say? Stay tuned)

 

[brinny]

What does this song have to do with the book of Job? Check out the lyrics and place them where it seems most appropriate.....it applies to anyone who is grieving and in a dark dungeon of despair. Such is where Job was.

Be Ye Glad - YouTube

Be Ye Glad​

(M.K.Blanchard)​

In these days of confused situations.
In these nights of a restless remorse,
When the heart and the soul of the nation,
lay wounded and cold as a corpse.
From the grave of the innocent Adam,
comes a song bringing joy to the sad.
Oh your cry has been heard and the ransom,
has been paid up in full, Be Ye Glad.

(Chorus)

Oh, Be Ye Glad, Be Ye Glad,
Every debt that you ever had
Has been paid up in full by the grace of the Lord,
Be Ye Glad, Be Ye Glad, Be Ye Glad.

From the dungeon a rumor is stirring.
You have heard it again and again.
But this time the cell keys are turning,
and outside there are faces of friends.
And though your body lay weary from wasting,
and your eyes show the sorrow they've had.
Oh the love that your heart is now tasting
has opened the gate, Be Ye Glad.

(Chorus)

So be like lights on the rim of the water,
giving hope in a storm sea of night.
Be a refuge amidst the slaughter,
for these fugitives in their flight.
For you are timeless and part of a puzzle.
You are winsome and young as a lad.
And there is no disease or no struggle,
that can pull you from God, Be Ye Glad.

(Chorus)

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[brinny]

A song that at first glance seems glaringly un-related to a study on Job. Is it?

"And the King shall answer and say unto them,
Verily I say unto you,
Inasmuch as ye have done it unto
one of the least of these my brethren,
ye have done it unto me." ~Matthew 25:40​

Phil Collins Another Day In Paradise Lyrics - YouTube

 

[brinny]

"Be not forgetful to entertain strangers:
for thereby some have entertained angels unawares."
~Hebrews 13:2

"If a man say, I love God, and hateth his brother,
he is a liar: for he that loveth not his brother whom he hath seen,
how can he love God whom he hath not seen?" ~I John 4:20​

 

[brinny]

Huh? Whatz gotten into brinny today you ask?

Let's take a look at these verses.....and then see if any of them tie into a study of Job....hmmmmm.....

"In this the children of God are manifest, and the children of the devil: whosoever doeth not righteousness is not of God, neither he that loveth not his brother. For this is the message that ye heard from the beginning, that we should love one another. Not as Cain, who was of that wicked one, and slew his brother. And wherefore slew he him? Because his own works were evil, and his brother's righteous. Marvel not, my brethren, if the world hate you. We know that we have passed from death unto life, because we love the brethren. He that loveth not his brother abideth in death. Whosoever hateth his brother is a murderer: and ye know that no murderer hath eternal life abiding in him. Hereby perceive we the love of God, because he laid down his life for us: and we ought to lay down our lives for the brethren. But whoso hath this world's good, and seeth his brother have need, and shutteth up his bowels of compassion from him, how dwelleth the love of God in him? My little children, let us not love in word, neither in tongue; but in deed and in truth." ~I John 3:10-18