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Thank you for your input.....what i find astounding is that anyone might think it odd that Job would be depressed enough to want to die. There were other men of God who wanted to die as well. Weren't there?
I find Revelation 9:6 an interesting correlation with that.
Meanwhile the horrors of famine grew still more melancholy and afflictive.'Is not the LORD among us ? none evil can come upon us." (Micah iii. 11 )
"Daughters of Jerusalem, weep not for me, but for yourselves and fur your children ;
for behold! the days are coming in which they shall say, 'Blessed are the barren, and the wombs that never bare, and the breasts that never gave suck." Luke xxiii. 29.
I can't agree with this brother regarding perfection. The whole point of the wager between God and Satan was whether Job would sin or not. He did not, until God's presence left him. Then he fell into sin and he required answers from God.
In those days men will seek death and will not find it;
they will desire to die, and death will flee from them
which brother?
Brinny, thank YOU for the thread and the pastor uses the verse "There is no man on earth without sin", but that can easily mean that at that time in Old Testament days there was none around, or that a man cannot be without sin in his whole life, which I agree with. But it seems to me that what God meant, what Job meant and what the 'friends' were denying Job of, was that he was walking without sin or holy. There were others in OT times who also were said to be holy men. Not that they were born like that or indeed were unable to fall from it, witness David, but at some point they were walking in holiness or complete obedience.now what the pastor said about "perfection"......yes, that's quite a study in itself, isn't it? Can you elaborate on why you do not agree with him?
Thank you kindly.
Was it God Who defined Job, or was it man?
I think I have to say that it was God, undisputed by Satan and acknowledged by Job.Thank you, you touched on a key point, and yes i agree about Paul....and it ties right into Job and his own conscience.
For the sake of this thread however, was it God Who defined Job or was it man?
Aaah, thank you sis....and why do you say that?
I find Revelation 9:6 an interesting correlation with that.
http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Rev&c=9&v=6&t=NKJV#s=1176006
The Destruction of Jerusalem - George Peter Holford, 1805AD
Meanwhile the horrors of famine grew still more melancholy and afflictive.
The Jews, for of food were at length compelled to eat their belts, their sandals, the skins of their shields, dried grass, and even the ordure of oxen.
In the depth or this horrible extremity, a Jewess of noble family urged by the intolerable cravings of hunger, slew her infant child, and prepared it for a meal ; and had actually eaten one half thereof, when the soldiers, allured by tile smell of food, threatened her with instant death if she refused to discover it. 'Intimidated by this menace, she immediately produced the remains of her son, which petrified them with horror................
If you read the account of the divine destruction of Jerusalem and it's Temple, they were more distressed than depressed [Luke 21:23]thank you for those verses, and yes it is interesting that they wanted to die but could not....
i'm wondering about men of God who were so depressed they wanted to die....what'cha' got amigo?
Thank you sis....the verses you mentioned are amongst the hidden "treasures" in the book of Job....
was God saying that Job was without sin?
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