A new CF, an old vision (4)

[ContentInHim]

Is this a Church? Discipling takes place in a local Church - person to person (LIVE), not online. Online (computer) is just a tool like telephone, TV or any other technical resources that avoids person to person.

Not every new believer gets into a church. God forbid, there are even churches out there that teach this new agey stuff as gospel. Don't you feel the slightest obligation to help a new believer?

 

[Yeshuasteddy]

We are in the world of self-deceit that we are too focused on ourselves to see the eternal truth.

the irony! jim this entrie discussion must have at least 100 posts by you talkin bout yerself and yer name and what YOU think and have ppl guessed who ya are yet. so you preachin bout ppl bein too focused on self is ironic or the height of hypocrisy. and not helpful in the least.

 

[Angel4Truth]

God doesnt change a persons direction from this :

Reasons:
1. To me CF is more than just a website, it is also a ministry, and this vision is something that only Christians understand and appreciate.
2. All our rules and policies, though it may appear generic, have foundations in Christian doctrine and the Bible.
3. This site is Christian forums and although non-Christians are welcome, the target audience is still Christians.
4. A large majority of Christian members will not submit to being moderated by non-Christians.
All of the above points can be challenged and counter-arguments brought forth, but this policy will not change while I remain webmaster.

http://www.christianforums.com/t2851743-excuse-me-erwin.html&page=1

To what we have now if it was indeed God who led toward the above which was stated on several occasions in several threads through several years to what is being stated now. They directly contradict. So it wasnt God saying it then or it isnt God saying it now .

God wouldnt be saying both. If God said it and said the policy would not change and then it changes , something is wrong.

 

[Alice the Sister]

Hey, I just woke up and haven't had a chance to read over everything. Are people still overreacting and spreading vitriol due to this announcement, or have they settled down and actually allowed it to start working yet?

 

[Swart]

Hi Casi!

 

[JimfromOhio]

Do you *really* believe no person to person communication happens here at CF??? Or am I misreading your post bro???

Don't misunderstand me, online is a great tool to preach the gospel and edification. Discipleship is personal and belongs to a local church or local home church or whatever. For 3 years, Jesus taught His Disciples who became Apostles after His death. What kind of education did Jesus gave them? He discipled them personally.

Discipleship is personal and spiritual.

 

[Rochir]

But they don't, do they? We are responsible for discipling new believers. They will search the internet for Christian boards and find Christianforums.com. When they arrive here, they see uniting all Christians blah, blah, blah. When they begin learning that their only obligation to god and whatever jesus (small letters intentional) is being currently preached that day is to be open to everything, we are not helping them. Indeed, it could be said that Erwin is responsible for allowing them to become loster than lost. I wonder if he's considered that at all in his spiritual soul searching?

If people only learn their believes from an internet forum, it tells a lot about their real life environs where obviously no real people are around to teach them face to face!

The internet doesn't teach anything - real people do!

 

[Swart]

Hey, I just woke up and haven't had a chance to read over everything. Are people still overreacting and spreading vitriol due to this announcement, or have they settled down and actually allowed it to start working yet?

No. They're still going at it like DrStevej and Deren in a pen.

 

[pgp_protector]

Found an image for some of you in this thread

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[tulc]

tulc, even *I* have come back

Casi (tulc's long lost sister. )

CASI!!!! We've missed you sis!!
tulc(realizes how many people he's lost touch with from this site)

 

[Tychicus2]

Don't misunderstand me, online is a great tool to preach the gospel and edification. Discipleship is personal and belongs to a local church or local home church or whatever. For 3 years, Jesus taught His Disciples who became Apostles after His death. What kind of education did Jesus gave them? He discipled them personally.

Discipleship is personal and spiritual.

Agree but CF is a tool where MUCH person to person discipleship *personal and Spiritual* happens... Do you deny that???

 

[ContentInHim]

We are in the world of self-deceit that we are too focused on ourselves to see the eternal truth. When truth speaks, there is not burdens but rather "The truth shall make you free"; that is, free from the woes, the yokes, the burdens. To avoid causing others to stumble is itself strong incentive to walk by the Spirit. Biblically, Christians are no longer "in the flesh": "You are not in the flesh but in the Spirit, if indeed the Spirit of God dwells in you. Flesh follows the rules while Spirit follows the conviction of the Holy Spirit.

But if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, he does not belong to Him" (Rom 8:9). "If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit." Galatians 5:25. The Holy Spirit dwells in me with all the power and gifts of God, necessary to enable me to walk the noble, spiritual, Son-like life with God. Being thankful releases me from fear and worry. The presence of worry could mean a believer doesn't understand who God is in order to trust Him. In my life, I have learned to trust every situation to God's sovereign control. "God is able to make all grace abound to you, so that in all things at all times, having all that you need, you will abound in every good work." (2 Corinthians 9:8). Reading 2 Corinthians 12:9 says "God said 'My grace is sufficient for you, for my power is made perfect in weakness.' Therefore I will boast all the more gladly about my weaknesses, so that Christ's power may rest on me." First Peter 5:7 "Cast all your anxiety on him because he cares for you".

The main thing to understand and remember is that Jesus is OUR SHEPHERD that He will supply all our needs (Phil. 4:19) and that He knows everything about our lives (Ps. 139:3), cares about us (1 Pet. 5:7), has the power for every difficulty (Ps. 62:11), is perfecting us to be like Christ (Phil. 1:6), and that nothing escapes Him (Ps. 147:5), that will lead us to be stable, not anxious living.

ABsolutely, but read and think about Romans 10:14 -

 

[Alice the Sister]

pgp_protector, interestingly enough someone posted a picture from that depressed robot from Hitchiker's Guide to the Galaxy saying "Don't Panic"

Now you want us to panic?! Who am I to believe!

 

[RedTulipMom]

*place holder*

i'll be back later..have fun

 

[Cassiopeia]

Yes! two of my favorite FAVORITE people in the whole wide world of CF

CASI!!!! We've missed you sis!!
tulc(realizes how many people he's lost touch with from this site)

Hi Casi!

Casi (who knows just what her brother tulc means)

 

[pgp_protector]

*place holder*

i'll be back later..have fun

I tried a place holder, came back & the thread was closed & rolled

 

[ContentInHim]

Asked and answered.

(I hope with a multi-quote! )

In a perfect world, a new believer would have a friend, a church, etc. This is most certainly not a perfect world.

GRRR - rats - the quote didn't work, but my comment holds!

 

[JimfromOhio]

Not every new believer gets into a church. God forbid, there are even churches out there that teach this new agey stuff as gospel. Don't you feel the slightest obligation to help a new believer?

When I run into new believers here, I helped them find a local church they can attend. I discipled and guided them to a local Church. I transferred my discipleship to a local church where it belongs.

A new babe needs to grow with the help from other Christians in his/her Christian community. The letter of Jude was a blunt letter to Christians. Jude, a brother of James who wrote the letter of James. The key objects of the letter are: False teachings and Holy Faith. Ephesians 4:14-15: No prolonged infancies among us, please. We'll not tolerate babes in the woods, small children who are an easy mark for impostors. God wants us to grow up, to know the whole truth and tell it in love--like Christ in everything. We take our lead from Christ, who is the source of everything we do.

Acts 17:11: They were treated a lot better there than in Thessalonica. The Jews received Paul's message with enthusiasm and met with him daily, examining the Scriptures to see if they supported what he said.

Hebrew 5:14: solid food is for the mature, who have some practice in telling right from wrong.

Hebrews 10:24-25 commands every believer to be a part of such a local body and reveals why this is necessary.

NIV: And let us consider how we may spur one another on toward love and good deeds. Let us not give up meeting together, as some are in the habit of doing, but let us encourage one another—and all the more as you see the Day approaching.

 

[intricatic]

Hey, I just woke up and haven't had a chance to read over everything. Are people still overreacting and spreading vitriol due to this announcement, or have they settled down and actually allowed it to start working yet?

Aww, that's so sweet.

 

[Tychicus2]

I am not panicing... I am Praying as I always have since coming here to CF that this will remain a Christian Forum...

I see the potential for that *reality* being undone in what Erwin posted...

If all here were mature Christians his matrix, as stated, may have potential...

As that is clearly NOT the case...

The responsible mature Christians must maintain order or this site will cease to be Christian... sooner or later...

That's how I see it...

I would that it we're otherwise...



Ty