A flat earth

[SithDoughnut]

Then think of a cylinder to start, which is then cut longitudinally and flattened. Now, although the continuous line we drew on the cylinder has been interrupted, it is still two portions of one continuous line. So if you are travelling along that line, and get to one "edge", in order to keep travelling along that same line, you must rejoin that line at the other "edge", because that is the only place that line goes, and from there you would continue to Point B.

Like I said, think wraparound videogame, like Asteroids.

Oh, and

So the line was continuous and is now broken, and the only way to get to the other side is through teleportation, just like a wraparound game? If you can't trace the line without taking your finger off the paper, then unless you can teleport it cannot work. It was a continuous line, but it is now two individual line segments.

Unless you fly underneath the earth to get back around to the other side...

 

[peadar1987]

So the line was continuous and is now broken, and the only way to get to the other side is through teleportation, just like a wraparound game? If you can't trace the line without taking your finger off the paper, then unless you can teleport it cannot work. It was a continuous line, but it is now two individual line segments.

Unless you fly underneath the earth to get back around to the other side...

No, because there's nothing beyond the edges of the earth to fall into, it just keeps wrapping

 

[Gawron]

Any of you ever play an old SPI game entitled Global War? The cylinder thing is like that. When you moved a piece off of the west side of the map, its next move was onto the east side of the map.

 

[Skaloop]

So the line was continuous and is now broken, and the only way to get to the other side is through teleportation, just like a wraparound game? If you can't trace the line without taking your finger off the paper, then unless you can teleport it cannot work. It was a continuous line, but it is now two individual line segments.

Unless you fly underneath the earth to get back around to the other side...

Well, that's because it's twisted into a flattened-out mobius strip sort of thing.

Of course, that won't be perfectly flat, but the earth is only flat in general language (like how the round-earthers call it sphereical when it really isn't an exact shpere). Look at the heights of the mountains and the depths of the oceans; these are where the slight oscillations of a flattened mobius strip, on a global scale, are contained.

 

[Wedjat]

The mast argument has been debunked, and i already proved it is an optical angular illusion created by the law of perspective. The evidence for this, is that if you get a telescope you can restore the vision of the entire ship and mast, therefore there is certianly not a ''hill of water'' obscuring the ship, the earth has no curvature.

As the page on FES explains, this is irrefutable evidence the earth is flat.

Emphasis mine.
This is simply false. I can attest to this fact myself. I have viewed distant ships through a decent telescope, their hulls are not "restored". You have not refuted anything. I have seen this personally, unless you can provide a decent explanation as to why ships are blocked by water on a flat earth, this point will remain.

 

[Gawron]

Is this a serious argument on whether the earth is flat?

 

[Nathan Poe]

Is this a serious argument on whether the earth is flat?

Most of us have already come to the conclusion that Asycthian is Poeing us, but he just won't own up to it.

 

[Wedjat]

Most of us have already come to the conclusion that Asycthian is Poeing us, but he just won't own up to it.

I would join you, but I can't really afford to be wrong if I were to go around publicly questioning his legitimacy...
we'll see.

 

[SithDoughnut]

Well, that's because it's twisted into a flattened-out mobius strip sort of thing.

Of course, that won't be perfectly flat, but the earth is only flat in general language (like how the round-earthers call it sphereical when it really isn't an exact shpere). Look at the heights of the mountains and the depths of the oceans; these are where the slight oscillations of a flattened mobius strip, on a global scale, are contained.

Ok... so the line is still continuous with no breaks? I don't think I'm properly visualising this but the entire argument hinges upon there being no break in the line.

 

[SithDoughnut]

I would join you, but I can't really afford to be wrong if I were to go around publicly questioning his legitimacy...
we'll see.

Can you not? If I'm wrong, I'm wrong but I'll be disappointed if it's not a Poe. I'm rather impressed with him to be honest.

 

[Spacewyrm]

OK, Poe-Boy. Draw a circle on a piece of paper, then two points on an east-west line (let's call them Point A and Point B). Tell us how to get from point A to point B by going in either direction, West or East.

I seem to recall a flat-earther once suggesting that the world is circular, with the "north pole" at the center of the circle (and Antarctica spread around the edges I presume, assuming they believe that Antarctica is real...). Then East and West are not straight lines, but concentric rings around the center of this circle. It doesn't really make a whole lot of sense, but yeah...

Maybe Ascythian can incorporate this into his routine.

Why can't you fall off the edges of the ocean, then? Do the Sea Serpents prevent you from reaching them??

He's already answered that one, I think. Something about walls surrounding us (the pillars of heaven or something). But you can't actually get there 'cause the oceans are treacherous and icy, and other .

 

[Spacewyrm]

Ok... so the line is still continuous with no breaks? I don't think I'm properly visualising this but the entire argument hinges upon there being no break in the line.

First, the line is broken, then the line's not broken, then it is.

 

[Split Rock]

"Thar Be Serpents Thar!"

http://www.coolstuffinc.com/images/Products/mtg art/Unlimited/Sea Serpent.jpg

 

[Split Rock]

Here's more evidence of the existance of Sea Serpents!

http://www.coolstuffinc.com/images/Products/mtg art/Fifth/Sea Serpent.jpg

 

[Spacewyrm]

Here's more evidence of the existance of Sea Serpents!

http://www.coolstuffinc.com/images/Products/mtg art/Fifth/Sea Serpent.jpg

When I click on the link, it says "picture not available". Is that part of the joke, or a mistake?

 

[Wedjat]

I seem to recall a flat-earther once suggesting that the world is circular, with the "north pole" at the center of the circle (and Antarctica spread around the edges I presume, assuming they believe that Antarctica is real...). Then East and West are not straight lines, but concentric rings around the center of this circle. It doesn't really make a whole lot of sense, but yeah...

Maybe Ascythian can incorporate this into his routine.

He's already answered that one, I think. Something about walls surrounding us (the pillars of heaven or something). But you can't actually get there 'cause the oceans are treacherous and icy, and other .

That is the official position on the flat earth website. Since the north end of a compass will always point to the center of the disc, a "straight" line around the earth will be in concentric circles, thus you could travel anywhere going east or west, which is clockwise or counter clockwise. Also Antarctica doesn't exist, but is actually a giant ice wall that encircles the earth and keeps all the water in. To protect the conspiracy, most governments of the world have people stationed along the ice wall to stop explorers from reaching it and discovering that there is in fact no south pole.

 

[Ellinas]

Ascynthian did not take my challenge thus I declare FLAT
earth to be DEBUNKED!

The Poe tential of this Poe in winning my challenge is naught! All one has to do to prove him wrong is to look through a telescope at a ship sailing away in the horizon.

 

[Split Rock]

When I click on the link, it says "picture not available". Is that part of the joke, or a mistake?

The link works for me.. try it again. It's just another Magic the Gathering card.

 

[Ellinas]

"Thar Be Serpents Thar!"

Nay me hearty! beyond thar be dragons!!! Arrr

 

[Spacewyrm]

The link works for me.. try it again. It's just another Magic the Gathering card.

I got it to work. For some reason, though, it will only take me to the sea serpent picture when I copy the URL and paste it into my address bar.