A flat earth

[Asycthian]

Nothing wrong with that. Are you saying gay people shouldn't go into space?

The 'space' you are talking of is Atheistic and man-made. I believe (as the Bible teaches) that the Heavens are directly above earth.

As the Bible states Homosexuals can not enter Heaven.

And the rest of your post. i've already covered with those links. <staff edit>

 

[Skaloop]

Research the following (on Google or a simple search website) then get back to me:

NASA backs homosexual pride celebration
NASA to seek gay astronaut to Mars
NASA Hoax
NASA Moon Landing Hoax
NASA Space exploration Hoax
NASA and Animal cruelty
NASA animal testing
NASA and Satanism
Jack Parsons Satanist
Jack Parsons Occult

Note how many links pop-up.

In the maths of internet evidence, Google search hits < Wikipedia article.

Also, the founders of Google? Atheists. So clearly, you cannot trust their search engine.

 

[LittleNipper]

In the maths of internet evidence, Google search hits < Wikipedia article.

Also, the founders of Google? Atheists. So clearly, you cannot trust their search engine.

Well, hopefully the founders of Google are all still alive and will experience a blessing that will change their minds...

 

[Cabal]

The 'space' you are talking of is Atheistic and man-made. I believe (as the Bible teaches) that the Heavens are directly above earth.

And you're utterly wrong, because NASA has had Christians in it - I'm more than certain Christians have been into space too.

Please, for once, tell us how all the evidence of space missions conducted is wrong, other than rehashing your prejudice against athiests for the n-th time.

As the Bible states Homosexuals can not enter Heaven.

Yes they can. Nothing wrong with being homosexual - homosexual acts are what are condemned.

Take your bigotry and ignorance elsewhere.

And the rest of your post. i've already covered with those links. <staff edit>...

No, I did deal with it, and you ignored it. I said that gravity has nothing expressly to do with diameter - only mass.
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So the mathematical "evidence" you posted, isn't.

ETA: Oh wait, you meant the smoke thing? How adorable. Smoke floats upwards because it is so light any slight thermal fluctuation in the air will counter its feeble weight under gravity and then some, resulting in a net upward motion, you utter Poe.

Let me guess you also believe the earth is billions of years old, and your ancestors were monkeys?

Yup. Let me guess, you believe Sophocles' words on the matter or whatever.

 

[Cabal]

It's not, but people this wrong tend not to write in the exact way someone impersonating a fundamentalist would (or at least the way I would). I feel that more Bible quotes and bad punctuation would make it much more believable. Not that I'm not saying that Ascythian isn't doing a good job - rarely do we find one so committed - but the juxtaposition between arguments and presentation is rather unrealistic, or at least exceptionally rare.

But then, the whole point of Poe's law is that you can never be completely sure. However, the newer posts are becoming less and less convincing. I certainly admire the effort, though.

The whole "smokes floats up, therefore !=gravity" is giving me second thoughts, I admit.

 

[Cabal]

Draw a circle on a piece of paper, then a point anywhere. This point can be reached from any location. What you are saying is a major anti-flat earth fallacy, the same as the ''falling off the earth'' claim. You can't fall off the earth, there is a boundry. The edges of inhabitable earth are surrounded by an Ocean. And no i haven't been to the edge of the earth, however there is numerous ancient accounts of this happening. I highly doubt however, you have any knowledge of mythology.

Belief in flat earth was the norm, and always will be. If you want a 'poe' belief or a fairy tale, then that would be the round earth belief of the antipodes. Only someone very dumb would believe someone could stand at the North Pole and South Pole, at the same time, with their feet opposite. You now draw that on a piece of paper, and don't lie and say you believe it. No one does really.

Actually, so is the antipodes thing. Taking about taking things literally

 

[Split Rock]

Draw a circle on a piece of paper, then a point anywhere. This point can be reached from any location. What you are saying is a major anti-flat earth fallacy, the same as the ''falling off the earth'' claim.

OK, Poe-Boy. Draw a circle on a piece of paper, then two points on an east-west line (let's call them Point A and Point B). Tell us how to get from point A to point B by going in either direction, West or East.

You can't fall off the earth, there is a boundry. The edges of inhabitable earth are surrounded by an Ocean. And no i haven't been to the edge of the earth, however there is numerous ancient accounts of this happening. I highly doubt however, you have any knowledge of mythology.

Why can't you fall off the edges of the ocean, then? Do the Sea Serpents prevent you from reaching them??

 

[Cabal]

Why can't you fall off the edges of the ocean, then? Do the Sea Serpents prevent you from reaching them??

Maybe Poe-seidon stands guard.....

 

[SithDoughnut]

Why can't you fall off the edges of the ocean, then?

God.

 

[Skaloop]

OK, Poe-Boy. Draw a circle on a piece of paper, then two points on an east-west line (let's call them Point A and Point B). Tell us how to get from point A to point B by going in either direction, West or East.

Easy. You take the piece of paper, and you roll it into a cylinder. Then you can go either way. Also, you could use this cylinder as a sort of chimney to guide smoke upwards, thereby refuting both gravity and a round Earth.

 

[SithDoughnut]

Easy. You take the piece of paper, and you roll it into a cylinder. Then you can go either way. Also, you could use this cylinder as a sort of chimney to guide smoke upwards, thereby refuting both gravity and a round Earth.

Surely that proves a cylindrical Earth?

 

[Skaloop]

Surely that proves a cylindrical Earth?

No, because the paper is flat.

 

[Chesterton]

Why can't you fall off the edges of the ocean, then? Do the Sea Serpents prevent you from reaching them??

Obviously, people who've fallen to their death off the edge of the earth don't get their accounts of such published in Nature. I mean, they're dead. Same reason you don't hear reliable reports of knights doing battle with dragons - the dragons almost always win.

 

[Chesterton]

Maybe Poe-seidon stands guard.....

Yes, Poe-seidon. The poe-tentate of the seas!

 

[Cabal]

Obviously, people who've fallen to their death off the edge of the earth don't get their accounts of such published in Nature. I mean, they're dead. Same reason you don't hear reliable reports of knights doing battle with dragons - the dragons almost always win.

It's just a flesh wound!

 

[SithDoughnut]

No, because the paper is flat.

Yes, but it only works if you make it a cyclinder. If it doesn't work when the paper is laid flat, but it does when it's a cylinder, then the original state of the paper is not what you are demonstrating, you are demonstrating the state it is in at that moment. At the point where you can go both "east" and "west", the paper is cylindrical.

To me it's like saying that a circle is a square, and demonstrating that by giving a circle 4 corners. It's not a circle any more, and nor is the paper flat any more, it was turned into a cyclinder.

Unless I missed something there. I've actually seen this argument used by a flat earth "theorist" and I responded with this same argument, but they never replied... wonder why.

 

[Cabal]

Yes, Poe-seidon. The poe-tentate of the seas!

It was either that or Ne-poe-tune, I went with the one that scanned better clrly

 

[Skaloop]

Yes, but it only works if you make it a cyclinder. If it doesn't work when the paper is laid flat, but it does when it's a cylinder, then the original state of the paper is not what you are demonstrating, you are demonstrating the state it is in at that moment. At the point where you can go both "east" and "west", the paper is cylindrical.

To me it's like saying that a circle is a square, and demonstrating that by giving a circle 4 corners. It's not a circle any more, and nor is the paper flat any more, it was turned into a cyclinder.

Unless I missed something there. I've actually seen this argument used by a flat earth "theorist" and I responded with this same argument, but they never replied... wonder why.

The cylinder concept was just to illustrate the East-West travel concept in a way your mind could conceptualize.

Consider the cylinder we made before, with its two drawn paths between Point A and Point B. Now, uncylinderize the sheet and lay it flat again. The lines still go in both directions! It's like a wrap-around video game.

 

[SithDoughnut]

The cylinder concept was just to illustrate the East-West travel concept in a way your mind could conceptualize.

Consider the cylinder we made before, with its two drawn paths between Point A and Point B. Now, uncylinderize the sheet and lay it flat again. The lines still go in both directions! It's like a wrap-around video game.

Hang on, when you fold the sheet into a cylinder do you draw the line across the gap where the two edges meet? If you don't, then I'm not understanding it. If you do, then it proves nothing, because the line is not continuous.

 

[Skaloop]

Hang on, when you fold the sheet into a cylinder do you draw the line across the gap where the two edges meet? If you don't, then I'm not understanding it. If you do, then it proves nothing, because the line is not continuous.

Then think of a cylinder to start, which is then cut longitudinally and flattened. Now, although the continuous line we drew on the cylinder has been interrupted, it is still two portions of one continuous line. So if you are travelling along that line, and get to one "edge", in order to keep travelling along that same line, you must rejoin that line at the other "edge", because that is the only place that line goes, and from there you would continue to Point B.

Like I said, think wraparound videogame, like Asteroids.

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