A Complete Skull from Dmanisi

[dad]

Dear Dad, Just showing your use of deceptive tactics by changing the subject in order to avoid your previous flawed statement about the Olive Tree. The traditional view of ancient Goatherders, which you defend, tells us the Flood was just a thousand years before, and Peleg was several generaions from Noah, making Peleg the same age as the oldest Olive Trees on Earth. Your flawed statement is refuted Scripturally.

If you want to cite bible record, whatever you call it doesn't matter, try to get it right. If one uses many accounts, Peleg was born over a century after the flood. There is another chronology, but neither are a thousand years.

What I am trying to get you to do is to tell us HOW the earth was divided in the days of Peleg. I can hardly wait to hear that entertaining story.

Many ways. We do not know the extent. Some claim the continents separated at that time, others that just the nations and tongues..etc etc.

Try to keep up or are you ashamed of posting what you think the verse says about dividing the earth at the time of Peleg? Here's the verse you seem to be hiding from: Gen 10:25​

I think that the earth being split or divided coincides with the time of Babel, so we would include the languages. It also corresponds with a sharp lifespan change, and a time when we no longer see a spiritual realm so close at hand. But that topic already has a thread.


Here we were looking at how you claim skulls were (let us know if I have this right now) left over from nearly brainless sons of god and found by men who had just come from another planet!!!

This is true for many reasons. Scripturally, God tells Noah that He is going to destroy the violent people of the first Earth "with the Earth." Genesis 6:13 I have given you many more verses saying the same thing from BOTH the Old and New Testaments, and so far, you have refuted NONE of them.

None of that means there was no flood. Gong.
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Let's add this latest nutball claim to the list.

The firmament is the entire world or Universe of Adam.

That's the Flat Earth,


Also a week to God is some 25 Billion years,


Lake Van ... the first firmament or enclosed Biosphere floated in the Lake,


Our world has NEVER suffered a Global Flood.


... people who evolved from Apes, the sons of God.

You didn't miss the Flood ...

.. Adam, who never stepped foot on this Planet.


...I show that Adam never stepped foot on this Planet because he lived in an enclosed firmament in Lake Van, Turkey and never escaped that world.

Noah did, and brought humans to our Earth

 

[Aman777]

Originally Posted by Aman777

Dear Dad, Just showing your use of deceptive tactics by changing the subject in order to avoid your previous flawed statement about the Olive Tree. The traditional view of ancient Goatherders, which you defend, tells us the Flood was just a thousand years before, and Peleg was several generaions from Noah, making Peleg the same age as the oldest Olive Trees on Earth. Your flawed statement is refuted Scripturally.
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If you want to cite bible record, whatever you call it doesn't matter, try to get it right. If one uses many accounts, Peleg was born over a century after the flood. There is another chronology, but neither are a thousand years.

Here is the account Scripturally:

21 Unto Shem 1 generation also, the father of all the children of Eber, the brother of Japheth the elder, even to him were children born.
22 The children of Shem; Elam, and Asshur, and Arphaxad, and Lud, and Aram. 2nd generation
23 And the children of Aram; Uz, and Hul, and Gether, and Mash.
24 And Arphaxad begat Salah; and Salah begat Eber. 3rd generation
25 And unto Eber were born two sons: the name of one was Peleg; 4th generation for in his days was the earth divided; and his brother's name was Joktan.

Looks to me like 4 generations from Noah who lived for 900 years. How long is a generation of people who lived so long? 100 years or so? If so, then Peleg was close in age to the oldest Olive Tree STILL alive today. Your fantasy that Olive trees grew at a slower rate until recently is refuted Scripturally. Try again?


What I am trying to get you to do is to tell us HOW the earth was divided in the days of Peleg. I can hardly wait to hear that entertaining story.
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Many ways. We do not know the extent. Some claim the continents separated at that time, others that just the nations and tongues..etc etc.

IOW, Peleg lived at the time of Babel, when the Earth was divivided by the dispersing of Noah's descendants to the various parts of the Earth. That is why Meshesh and Moscow are where Noah's descendants were scattered to in order to spread Humanity all over the face of the Earth. The last verse in Chapter 10 explains this:

Gen 10:32¶These are the families of the sons of Noah, after their generations, in their nations: and by these were the nations divided in the earth after the flood.

Try to keep up or are you ashamed of posting what you think the verse says about dividing the earth at the time of Peleg? Here's the verse you seem to be hiding from: Gen 10:25
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I think that the earth being split or divided coincides with the time of Babel, so we would include the languages. It also corresponds with a sharp lifespan change, and a time when we no longer see a spiritual realm so close at hand. But that topic already has a thread.

The LORD (Jesus) took Noah's HUMAN descendants and spread Humanity over the whole Earth from Babel. Gen 11:9 Therefore is the name of it called Babel; because the LORD (YHWH/Jesus) did there confound the language of all the earth: and from thence did the LORD scatter them abroad upon the face of all the earth.

Here we were looking at how you claim skulls were (let us know if I have this right now) left over from nearly brainless sons of god and found by men who had just come from another planet!!!

False, since the sons of God (prehistoric people) were NOT brainless. Their brains, along with the rest of their bodies, were identical to today's Humans. The Cro-Magnon looked like us, and could produce children with Adam's descendants.

Specifically, Adam was NEVER on our Planet since he lived and died in the FIRST Biosphere or Heaven, and never escaped the firmament. Noah was the first Human to leave the Ark and step foot on our Planet in our 2nd Heaven. The sons of God (prehistoric people) were NOT Human because they did not have the superior intelligence of Adam.

This is true for many reasons. Scripturally, God tells Noah that He is going to destroy the violent people of the first Earth "with the Earth." Genesis 6:13 I have given you many more verses saying the same thing from BOTH the Old and New Testaments, and so far, you have refuted NONE of them.
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None of that means there was no flood. Gong.

Again, you move the goal posts revealing the comedic nature of your argument. There definitely was a Flood, but it destroyed Adam's world, the first firmament, but NOT our's. That's God's Truth. God Bless you.

In Love,
Aman
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[dad]

The sons of God (prehistoric people) were NOT Human because they did not have the superior intelligence of Adam....

OK, I started a thread for you in the Christian section. Maybe some there will straighten you out....

Here is the link



http://www.christianforums.com/t7791362/#post64626044

 

[Aman777]

OK, I started a thread for you in the Christian section. Maybe some there will straighten you out....

Here is the link
http://www.christianforums.com/t7791362/#post64626044

Dear Dad, Thanks. I have already posted my first message there. God Bless you.

In Love,
Aman

 

[Aman777]

Dear Dad, Thanks. I have already posted my first message there. God Bless you.

Dear Dad, Sorry, but your idea to post my views is getting limited response. Your thread "Biblical advice on errant theory sought" doesn't seem to have as many Christians refuting me as you thought they would. So far, Eternal Dragon is the only one objecting and I have already answered his comments and he has failed to return to support his view.

Here's hoping others will join you and ED and try to refute God's Truth. That way, everyone will learn that what is actually written does NOT agree with the traditional religious view which cannot be supported Scripturally. Thanks again for trying. God Bless you.

In Love,
Aman

 

[stevevw]

Dear Dad, Sorry, but your idea to post my views is getting limited response. Your thread "Biblical advice on errant theory sought" doesn't seem to have as many Christians refuting me as you thought they would. So far, Eternal Dragon is the only one objecting and I have already answered his comments and he has failed to return to support his view.

Here's hoping others will join you and ED and try to refute God's Truth. That way, everyone will learn that what is actually written does NOT agree with the traditional religious view which cannot be supported Scripturally. Thanks again for trying. God Bless you.

In Love,
Aman

Aman i have seen the other post in that site and have spoken to you before. Out of interest i looked up what you were saying. I found some information on this or maybe it is related.

I am wondering where this belief stem from, are you from a nationality that believes this or is there a name for this belief. I found one site that talks about the Urartu is this what you are talking about. It is very similar but i am suspecting this belief stems form a different culture and was passed down with their culture. As it is based around turkey i am thinking perhaps it has come from near this area.

I also came across another forum that has a fellow on it who speaks about the same things and he is being misunderstood as well. So it seems there are a few people who believe this.

Urartu - Lost Kingdom of Van

 

[Aman777]

Aman i have seen the other post in that site and have spoken to you before. Out of interest i looked up what you were saying. I found some information on this or maybe it is related.

I am wondering where this belief stem from, are you from a nationality that believes this or is there a name for this belief. I found one site that talks about the Urartu is this what you are talking about. It is very similar but i am suspecting this belief stems form a different culture and was passed down with their culture. As it is based around turkey i am thinking perhaps it has come from near this area.

I also came across another forum that has a fellow on it who speaks about the same things and he is being misunderstood as well. So it seems there are a few people who believe this.

Urartu - Lost Kingdom of Van

Dear Steve, I went to the site but I don't agree with their views. My view comes strictly from God's Holy Word and involves more than 30 years of Study with the help of the Holy Spirit and prayers for understanding. In more than 17 years online NO Bible believing Christian has ever refuted me Scripturally, because Scripture agrees with what I teach it says.

I did find it interesting that Urartu means Ararat. Most people don't know that there are two Ararat's, or two mountains of Ararat. One is the lesser and one is the greater Ararat. Lake Van is in the mountains of Ararat and is the largest Lake in Turkey. It makes a perfect place to put a 450 foot covered Barge called the Ark.

No tricks, No strange leaps of faith necessary, Nothing to join, and No solicitation of funds. Freely I received and freely I give. God Bless you.

In Love,
Aman

 

[EternalDragon]

Dear Dad, Sorry, but your idea to post my views is getting limited response. Your thread "Biblical advice on errant theory sought" doesn't seem to have as many Christians refuting me as you thought they would. So far, Eternal Dragon is the only one objecting and I have already answered his comments and he has failed to return to support his view.

Here's hoping others will join you and ED and try to refute God's Truth. That way, everyone will learn that what is actually written does NOT agree with the traditional religious view which cannot be supported Scripturally. Thanks again for trying. God Bless you.

In Love,
Aman

I did not have time to respond but feel that it does not matter what scripture says or what others kindly try to convey to you. You seem set in what you think is true.

 

[Aman777]

I did not have time to respond but feel that it does not matter what scripture says or what others kindly try to convey to you. You seem set in what you think is true.

Dear ED, Weak. You still can respond to your notion that our Earth is the ONLY Earth God made. I have shown you that God made 3 Heavens and Earths instead of just one, and you cannot refute it Scripturally, but you refuse to change your religious opinion. This is your Free choice, but I will no longer believe that you are a Bible believing Christian. It's the same with Dad.

There are many followers of a Denominational view, instead of what is actually written. This does NOT mean that you are NOT a Christian, since Christians are saved by Faith in Jesus and not all are Bible believers. ie. The Thief on the Cross beside Him. It is important for me to share this with you since I always post that NO Bible believing Christian has EVER had any problem with my views. I can still post the SAME.

God Bless both you and Dad. Thank you for responding to Dad's request that someone show me where I'm wrong. I suppose most of the people on the Apologetics board must be Bible believers, since only football tried, and failed to "show me my errant ways" as Dad put it. Merry Christmas to you and yours and Merry Christmas to Dad.

P.S. I will continue to monitor the other board if either of you wish to reply.

In Love,
Aman

 

[dad]

God Bless..

So, your position on where the skulls came from, let's have it in a final statement?

I think it is something like this that you posit...the skulls are from some creatures that were on another planet, and had no real brains. Then Noah wafted in a magic window over a lake and brought humans to this planet, where the numskulls were. Then, they all had sex, and the pea brains got smart as a whip, and the rest is history!?

 

[Aman777]

So, your position on where the skulls came from, let's have it in a final statement?

Dear Dad, The skulls of the sons of God (prehistoric man) are found all over the Earth and can be traced to the common ancestor of Apes, genetically. They were NOT Human because they were NOT the descendants of Adam and were therefore NOT as intelligent as Adam, since Adam had an intelligence like God's. Genesis 3:22

I think it is something like this that you posit...the skulls are from some creatures that were on another planet, and had no real brains. Then Noah wafted in a magic window over a lake and brought humans to this planet, where the numskulls were. Then, they all had sex, and the pea brains got smart as a whip, and the rest is history!?

LOL. You are absolutely the best Comedian on these boards. In the real world, I'll bet you're the life of the party. I suppose that's what is necessary when you don't have anything else which supports your view and also lets you hide when cornered. It's a really good ruse which allows you to keep your dignity among the uneducated. God Bless you.

In Love,
Aman

 

[dad]

Dear Dad, The skulls of the sons of God (prehistoric man) are found all over the Earth and can be traced to the common ancestor of Apes, genetically. They were NOT Human because they were NOT the descendants of Adam and were therefore NOT as intelligent as Adam, since Adam had an intelligence like God's. Genesis 3:22

OK, so were these skulls on a different planet than Adam? Did these idiot beings ('ancestors' of men) get intelligence by having sex with men...after Noah brought humans to this planet..yes or no?

LOL. You are absolutely the best Comedian on these boards. In the real world, I'll bet you're the life of the party. I suppose that's what is necessary when you don't have anything else which supports your view and also lets you hide when cornered. It's a really good ruse which allows you to keep your dignity among the uneducated. God Bless you.

In Love,
Aman

Not all men think that the mark of intelligence is believing that an ark from space brought all men to earth, which then landed in a lake that was the 'firmament' spoken of in the bible. Not sure where people find the time to invent such intricate delusions.

 

[Aman777]

OK, so were these skulls on a different planet than Adam? Did these idiot beings ('ancestors' of men) get intelligence by having sex with men...after Noah brought humans to this planet..yes or no?

Dear Dad, Of course not. The children did. The Giants in Genesis 6:4 are the children. They are the intellectual Giants when compared to their prehistoric parent. I realize that you are not a Bible believer, but a child can understand Genesis 6:4. Surely you can. You're a Dad. Right?

Not all men think that the mark of intelligence is believing that an ark from space brought all men to earth,

No one has ever claimed the Ark was from Space. Only those who cannot refute God's Holy Word make up stories about "Space Arks." The Ark was not sealed against the vacuum of Space. The Ark did not bring men to Earth, but instead, brought the descendants of Adam, the first Human to this Planet of people who evolved from the common ancestor of Apes.

which then landed in a lake that was the 'firmament' spoken of in the bible.

False. The firmament was floating in the water, and out of the water, until the rains came and then it sank in the Lake, leaving the 450 foot covered Ark safely in our world, instead of in the world that THEN WAS. ll Peter 3:5

Not sure where people find the time to invent such intricate delusions.

I didn't invent ANYthing. It's the account that is actually written in Scripture. I have shown you this and you have been UnAble to refute me Scripturally. You've even posted a site in a Christian board asking for help and getting only weak responses from a couple of people.

This obvious inability to refute God's Holy Word, which you so easily laugh at, and twist what it says, in order to retain your credibilty, reveals much. Soon, you will realize how hopeless is your cause. Some bow now, and some bow later, but ALL will bow to God's Holy Word, in the end. God Bless you for giving me this opportunity to present my side of the story.

In Love,
Aman

 

[bhsmte]

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[dad]

Dear Dad, Of course not. The children did.

So let's be clear. The flood was say, 4500 years ago. After that time, in your claim, there were 'sons of god ancestors of apes' that had sex with Noah's kids. Right??

No one has ever claimed the Ark was from Space.

Well, excuuuuuuuse me. You do claim the ark somehow got to this planet from another with the people on board, right?

 

[Aman777]

So let's be clear. The flood was say, 4500 years ago. After that time, in your claim, there were 'sons of god ancestors of apes' that had sex with Noah's kids. Right??

Dear Dad, The Flood was some 10k years ago since the first Human cities on our Earth were built at that time and some of them are still there. Scripture shows that the sons of God married and produced children with Adam's daughters.

Gen 6:4 There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men (Hebrew-Adam), and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.

Well, excuuuuuuuse me. You do claim the ark somehow got to this planet from another with the people on board, right?

No. The Ark was inside the first world, which was floating in the waters of Lake Van, Turkey. When the firmament dissolved, the Ark escaped the total destruction of Adam's world. I have NOT claimed the Ark was a Spaceship. The Ark was a covered Barge some 450 feet long, and it was NOT sealed from the Vacuum of Space.

As far as I know, the first world was always in the water of the Lake. Scripture has not told us HOW the firmament got there. God Bless you.

In Love,
Aman

 

[dad]

Dear Dad, The Flood was some 10k years ago since the first Human cities on our Earth were built at that time and some of them are still there.

Not according to God and His record. Noah didn't live that long ago, nor Abraham. If you have some cockamamie version of so called science dates, that is not my problem. They are fiction and cannot stand or be supported.

"First century Jewish historian Flavius Josephus used manuscripts available during his time to calculate that Noah's Flood occurred 1556 years after the creation of Adam. By adding the ages of the patriarchs listed in the Bible, other scholars have come up with roughly similar dates. (We must point out though, that according to the King James Version of the Bible, the Flood was 1656 years after Creation, which is regarded as more accurate than Josephus's dates.)
Irish archbishop James Ussher calculated that the creation of the world took place in 4004 BC. If 1656 is deducted from 4004 then the worldwide flood of Noah's time was around 2348 BC (if both chronologies are correct; but please note that there is some disagreement even among conservative Bible believers on these dates).
Josephus, Ussher, and other scholars disagree slightly on some of their dates. But most agree that a straightforward reading of the Bible indicates the Deluge must have taken place in the third millennium before the birth of Jesus Christ — probably between 2500 BC and 2300 BC."


What was the date of Noah's Flood?


So do you claim these unintelligent ape like creatures had sex with folks from the ark, and became intelligent as a result, yes or no?

Scripture shows that the sons of God married and produced children with Adam's daughters.

Hey you have a thread for that foolishness. Don't cluck up this one with it.

No. The Ark was inside the first world, which was floating in the waters of Lake Van, Turkey. When the firmament dissolved, the Ark escaped the total destruction of Adam's world. I have NOT claimed the Ark was a Spaceship. The Ark was a covered Barge some 450 feet long, and it was NOT sealed from the Vacuum of Space.

Makes no sense. No idea what you are babbling about. You claim 3 different earths, and the ark somehow getting to this one.

As far as I know, the first world was always in the water of the Lake.

Insanity. You have a thread for that.

Scripture has not told us HOW the firmament got there.

Gee I thought God created the heavens and the earth.

 

[Aman777]

Originally Posted by Aman777

Dear Dad, The Flood was some 10k years ago since the first Human cities on our Earth were built at that time and some of them are still there.
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Not according to God and His record. Noah didn't live that long ago, nor Abraham. If you have some cockamamie version of so called science dates, that is not my problem. They are fiction and cannot stand or be supported.

"First century Jewish historian Flavius Josephus used manuscripts available during his time to calculate that Noah's Flood occurred 1556 years after the creation of Adam. By adding the ages of the patriarchs listed in the Bible, other scholars have come up with roughly similar dates. (We must point out though, that according to the King James Version of the Bible, the Flood was 1656 years after Creation, which is regarded as more accurate than Josephus's dates.)
Irish archbishop James Ussher calculated that the creation of the world took place in 4004 BC. If 1656 is deducted from 4004 then the worldwide flood of Noah's time was around 2348 BC (if both chronologies are correct; but please note that there is some disagreement even among conservative Bible believers on these dates).
Josephus, Ussher, and other scholars disagree slightly on some of their dates. But most agree that a straightforward reading of the Bible indicates the Deluge must have taken place in the third millennium before the birth of Jesus Christ — probably between 2500 BC and 2300 BC."


What was the date of Noah's Flood?

Dear Dad, Why do you believe mens views instead of what God told us in Genesis? You said it was God and His record and then listed what some men who lived long ago, thought. It's the same with you all the time. Your faith seems to be in Biblical Scholarship and NOT in God's Holy Word. In the end, your faith in men will ALWAYS disappoint, while your Faith in God will stand.

So do you claim these unintelligent ape like creatures had sex with folks from the ark, and became intelligent as a result, yes or no?

I don't CLAIM anything. I show that the sons of God came into the daughters of Adam and produced mighty men which were of old, men of renown. That's because that is what Genesis 6:4 states and YOU cannot refute it, obviously.

Scripture shows that the sons of God married and produced children with Adam's daughters.

Hey you have a thread for that foolishness. Don't cluck up this one with it.

Who died and left you in charge of this board? So long as you keep waving your arms and telling everyone that I'm crazy, I will remain in order to refute your false accusations.


No. The Ark was inside the first world, which was floating in the waters of Lake Van, Turkey. When the firmament dissolved, the Ark escaped the total destruction of Adam's world. I have NOT claimed the Ark was a Spaceship. The Ark was a covered Barge some 450 feet long, and it was NOT sealed from the Vacuum of Space.

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Makes no sense. No idea what you are babbling about. You claim 3 different earths, and the ark somehow getting to this one.

I don't claim anything. Genesis 1:6-8 tells us the FIRST Heaven was made the SECOND Day. Genesis 2:4 tells us other HeavenS were made the THIRD Day. It's God you are fighting with, since He is the Author of the Scripture which keeps refuting your religious views.

As far as I know, the first world was always in the water of the Lake.
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Insanity. You have a thread for that.

No, the Insanity thread is for those who think they know more than God whether they are believers or not. Have you noticed the thread you started trying to get Christians to refute me? So far, NONE of them has been able to accomplish your wishes.

Scripture has not told us HOW the firmament got there.
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Gee I thought God created the heavens and the earth.

He did, but Jesus made the Firmament, which is what we are discussing. Don't you know the difference between Elohim and YHWH? God Bless you.

In Love,
Aman

 

[dad]

You said it was God and His record and then listed what some men who lived long ago, thought.

The men were listed in the bible. Do you not accept that as God's word??

I don't CLAIM anything. I show that the sons of God came into the daughters of Adam and produced mighty men which were of old, men of renown. That's because that is what Genesis 6:4 states and YOU cannot refute it, obviously.

Blah blah, go to the appropriate thread for that screaming lunacy. Not here. If you want to insist on calling sons of god your imaginary idiot apes that got brains by having sex with people off the ark, do it somewhere else.

Who died and left you in charge of this board? So long as you keep waving your arms and telling everyone that I'm crazy, I will remain in order to refute your false accusations.

Your claims are crazy. Obviously.

I don't claim anything. Genesis 1:6-8 tells us the FIRST Heaven was made the SECOND Day. Genesis 2:4 tells us other HeavenS were made the THIRD Day. It's God you are fighting with, since He is the Author of the Scripture which keeps refuting your religious views.

Your desire to interpret heavens as something other than sky and space is of no import.
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As far as I know, the first world was always in the water of the Lake.

In the beginning God created-- a lake??? Get a grip.
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...Have you noticed the thread you started trying to get Christians to refute me? So far, NONE of them has been able to accomplish your wishes.

I am giving them time, so as not to have to waste time myself. That doesn't mean your stories have any merit.

He did, but Jesus made the Firmament, which is what we are discussing.

One minute you are 'discussing' the world and/or firmament in some lake, with an ark that somehow came from another earth, and some ape freaks outside waiting to have a sex for brains exchange with Noah's kids!

 

[Aman777]

Originally Posted by Aman777

You said it was God and His record and then listed what some men who lived long ago, thought.
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The men were listed in the bible. Do you not accept that as God's word??

Dear Dad, I was NOT speaking of the men of the Bible and you know it. Here is the record which you are trying to twist.

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Dad:>>Not according to God and His record. Noah didn't live that long ago, nor Abraham. If you have some cockamamie version of so called science dates, that is not my problem. They are fiction and cannot stand or be supported.

"First century Jewish historian Flavius Josephus used manuscripts available during his time to calculate that Noah's Flood occurred 1556 years after the creation of Adam. By adding the ages of the patriarchs listed in the Bible, other scholars have come up with roughly similar dates. (We must point out though, that according to the King James Version of the Bible, the Flood was 1656 years after Creation, which is regarded as more accurate than Josephus's dates.)
Irish archbishop James Ussher calculated that the creation of the world took place in 4004 BC. If 1656 is deducted from 4004 then the worldwide flood of Noah's time was around 2348 BC (if both chronologies are correct; but please note that there is some disagreement even among conservative Bible believers on these dates).
Josephus, Ussher, and other scholars disagree slightly on some of their dates. But most agree that a straightforward reading of the Bible indicates the Deluge must have taken place in the third millennium before the birth of Jesus Christ — probably between 2500 BC and 2300 BC."


What was the date of Noah's Flood?
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Dear Dad, Why do you believe mens views instead of what God told us in Genesis? You said it was God and His record and then listed what some men who lived long ago, thought. <<<<<<< Your deception is noted, along with your changing my words into teeny tiny words. Why do you fell it necessary to do such things?

I don't CLAIM anything. I show that the sons of God came into the daughters of Adam and produced mighty men which were of old, men of renown. That's because that is what Genesis 6:4 states and YOU cannot refute it, obviously.

Blah blah, go to the appropriate thread for that screaming lunacy. Not here. If you want to insist on calling sons of god your imaginary idiot apes that got brains by having sex with people off the ark, do it somewhere else.

I see. You hide behind your Comedy once again. Is it because you cannot support your "religion" with Scripture?

Who died and left you in charge of this board? So long as you keep waving your arms and telling everyone that I'm crazy, I will remain in order to refute your false accusations.

Your claims are crazy. Obviously.

Then refute me Scripturally IF you think you can. I know you cannot since you would have done it long ago, IF you could. All you have left is name calling, and deceptions.


I don't claim anything. Genesis 1:6-8 tells us the FIRST Heaven was made the SECOND Day. Genesis 2:4 tells us other HeavenS were made the THIRD Day. It's God you are fighting with, since He is the Author of the Scripture which keeps refuting your religious views.
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Your desire to interpret heavens as something other than sky and space is of no import.

That's because God tells us He destroyed the world (Kosmos) that THEN WAS in the Flood. ll Peter 3:5 I've shown you this and you have NO Scriptural refute for my view. Why do you insist that your personal opinion is above God's Holy Word?

As far as I know, the first world was always in the water of the Lake.
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In the beginning God created-- a lake??? Get a grip.

No. In the beginning God created the air and the ground. And the ground was without form and Void because there was NO Potter to mold the clay. Notice also that Darkness was upon the face of the Deep (Water). With your understanding, where did the water come from? It wasn't created, was it?
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...Have you noticed the thread you started trying to get Christians to refute me? So far, NONE of them has been able to accomplish your wishes.
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I am giving them time, so as not to have to waste time myself. That doesn't mean your stories have any merit.

You had better hurry since the thread is about to go off the main board. I've tried to keep it going in order to get others to refute me, but none have.

He did, but Jesus made the Firmament, which is what we are discussing.
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One minute you are 'discussing' the world and/or firmament in some lake, with an ark that somehow came from another earth, and some ape freaks outside waiting to have a sex for brains exchange with Noah's kids!

Ha, Ha. Your are one funny dude. You have the ability to hide your religious view among your comedic posts. That way, No one can show that you don't know what you're speaking of since you are so good at hide and seek. God Bless you.

In Love,
Aman