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[dad]

Dear Dad, That is possible since Genesis 2:4 just says other HeavenS (Plural) were made the 3rd Day. Since other Scripture shows the 3rd Heaven (ll Corinthians 12:2) I limit my view to 3 Heavens or Universes. There could be many more.

One of them had birds flying in it. The other had stars in it. Most people call that part of the universe actually.

Jesus wasn't dead when He descended, except to this world. Since He also ascended above ALL heavens, does it matter which Earth He started from?

If He went down to preach to spirits in prison, who went through some of the flood, it matters.

Then tell us what is ABOVE the 3rd Heaven? Scripturally?

You are bandying about terms th

He set the trap on the 150th Day AFTER the Flood began. On that Day, the Ark was above the highest mountains of Adam's world (Gen. 7:24) AND resting on the mountains of Ararat (Gen. 8:4) on the SAME 150th Day After the Flood began.

Here is the text..


19 And the waters prevailed exceedingly upon the earth; and all the high hills, that were under the whole heaven, were covered. 20 Fifteen cubits upward did the waters prevail; and the mountains were covered. 21 And all flesh died that moved upon the earth, both of fowl, and of cattle, and of beast, and of every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth, and every man: 22 All in whose nostrils was the breath of life, of all that was in the dry land, died. 23 And every living substance was destroyed which was upon the face of the ground, both man, and cattle, and the creeping things, and the fowl of the heaven; and they were destroyed from the earth: and Noah only remained alive, and they that were with him in the ark. 24 And the waters prevailed upon the earth an hundred and fifty days.


You can't say that the point in time that the water went over the high hills was 150 days after the flood started. The total time was 150 days. Where IN that time the waters went up over the mountains we can't say. Can we? Maybe you should post your wild claims in the Christian section. Maybe some bible whizzes will have patience to set you straight. In this section, I am wary to clobber your poor ideas too severely, in case unbelievers get the wrong idea.

Adam was on the world that THEN WAS, which was totally destroyed in the Flood some 10k years ago.

Now you set a date for the flood. Cute. Lurkers...that's a gong. By the way, when Jesus mentioned Noah and the flood, He seems to have forget to mention that it was not on this planet!!!

Then you must not be familiar with Scripture since the Fire is speaking of the total destruction of the CURRENT Universe. This is clear when you go back 3 verses and read this:

That has what to do with Adam?

No, but I look forward to meeting both Adam and Eve in the 3rd Heaven since Scripture documents them being born again Spiritually. Gen. 1:27 and Gen. 5:1-2. How bout you?

Yes, I hope to meet them also.

Doesn't matter since it is impossible to "clean dissolve" our Earth like it was Adam's earth.

No. Stop dreaming. There will be a new earth one day and this old world will be burned. It is very possible to make it go away.

Of course, but you are claiming that the description of the SNARE shows that we will be "clean dissolved" in water and destroyed,

What the flock are you babbling about?
The verse said fire not water.

Hiding behind your comedy again I see. I am sorry for your willful ignorance of the Snare.

Capitol S even. Wow. Your fantasies must seem important to you.

It's the FLOOD, which traps the all knowing Evols, and you.

I missed the flood actually as did all evos. By a loooong shot! This is news???

I suppose you also approve of teaching Evol Lies to our children in the Public Schools, such as that Humans evolved from the common ancestor as Apes?

Repeating insane stawmen doesn't help you.

Then refute me. It's easy for me to refute your view since it does not agree with Scripture. IF I am spinning fantasies, it should be easy for you to refute me Scripturally. Right?

If you were sane and in a Christian thread...maybe.

Then please explain HOW the Ark was above the highest mountains of Adam's world AND resting upon the mountains of Ararat on the SAME 150th Day (5 months) after the beginning of the Flood.

Easy. The 150 days were..well, 150 days! At the end of that time the ark rested. But I assume the water rose before the end of that time! Duh.

Those who are caught in this SNARE are trapped with their UnTrue views of the Literal Reality of God.

Really? Wow, sounds scary. Mostly insane though.

The Bible says for us to try the Spirits to see if they be good or evil.

Right. I am not sure He meant in the middle of a debate on a thread open to non believers? That refers to checking to see if they believe in Jesus and that He came in the flesh...etc. NOT to seeing whether people believe in your made up multiverses and space traveling, universe hopping arks!

 

[Aman777]

Originally Posted by Aman777

Dear Dad, That is possible since Genesis 2:4 just says other HeavenS (Plural) were made the 3rd Day. Since other Scripture shows the 3rd Heaven (ll Corinthians 12:2) I limit my view to 3 Heavens or Universes. There could be many more.
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One of them had birds flying in it. The other had stars in it. Most people call that part of the universe actually.

Dear Dad, Impossible since ll Peter 3:5 refers to the first heaven as the world (Kosmos) that THEN WAS. Which one do you think was totally destroyed in the Flood? Your idea is refuted Scripturally since ll Peter 2:5 tells us that God spared NOT the old world. (Greek-Kosmos) Try again?


Jesus wasn't dead when He descended, except to this world. Since He also ascended above ALL heavens, does it matter which Earth He started from?

If He went down to preach to spirits in prison, who went through some of the flood, it matters.

Only to those who believe that Hell is within our Planet. WHY would the people who died in the Flood go to Hell on OUR Planet? Can you show us where Hell is Scripturally? I doubt it. Fool me.

Then tell us what is ABOVE the 3rd Heaven? Scripturally?

You are bandying about terms th

I got it from the verse you omitted. Here it is again:

Eph 4:10 He that descended is the same also that ascended up far above all heavens,

FYI, that includes the THIRD Heaven. Right? Can you explain what is above ALL heavens? except maybe, the Multiverse?

He set the trap on the 150th Day AFTER the Flood began. On that Day, the Ark was above the highest mountains of Adam's world (Gen. 7:24) AND resting on the mountains of Ararat (Gen. 8:4) on the SAME 150th Day After the Flood began.

Here is the text..


19 And the waters prevailed exceedingly upon the earth; and all the high hills, that were under the whole heaven, were covered. 20 Fifteen cubits upward did the waters prevail; and the mountains were covered.

See? The water reached a depth of 15 Cubits (22 1/2 feet) which covered the mountains of the first Earth.

[quote]21 And all flesh died that moved upon the earth, both of fowl, and of cattle, and of beast, and of every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth, and every man: 22 All in whose nostrils was the breath of life, of all that was in the dry land, died. 23 And every living substance was destroyed which was upon the face of the ground, both man, and cattle, and the creeping things, and the fowl of the heaven; and they were destroyed from the earth: and Noah only remained alive, and they that were with him in the ark. 24 And the waters prevailed upon the earth an hundred and fifty days.
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That is the verse I posted which shows that the Flood was upon Adam's earth for 150 days (5 months). Can you refute it?

You can't say that the point in time that the water went over the high hills was 150 days after the flood started. The total time was 150 days. Where IN that time the waters went up over the mountains we can't say. Can we? Maybe you should post your wild claims in the Christian section. Maybe some bible whizzes will have patience to set you straight. In this section, I am wary to clobber your poor ideas too severely, in case unbelievers get the wrong idea.

You have NOT yet posted Genesis 8:4 which shows the time when the ARK rested upon the mountains of Ararat, on our Earth. Here it is:

Gen 8:4 And the ark rested in the seventh month, on the seventeenth day of the month, upon the mountains of Ararat.

When did the Flood begin? Gen 7:11 In the six hundredth year of Noah's life, in the second month, the seventeenth day of the month, the same day were all the fountains of the great deep broken up, and the windows of heaven were opened.

See? The flood began on 2/17 and was above the highest mountains 150 Days AFTER the Flood began (Gen 7:24) AND it rested on the mountains of Ararat on the SAME 150 days (5 months) after the Flood began, exactly as I posted. Genesis 8:4

Adam was on the world that THEN WAS, which was totally destroyed in the Flood some 10k years ago.
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Now you set a date for the flood. Cute. Lurkers...that's a gong. By the way, when Jesus mentioned Noah and the flood, He seems to have forget to mention that it was not on this planet!!!

The evidence of the arrival of the FIRST human farmers is STILL with us:

Map: Fertile Cresent, 9000 to 4500 BCE

I didn't set the date. The evidence of the FIRST human farming on this Planet did. Did you notice that the center of the Fertile Crescent is just south of Lake Van, in the mountains of Ararat? This indicates that Noah's descendants walked out of the mountains into the valleys of Northern Mesopotamia where farming, city building, math, writing, and EVERY other Human trait first appeared on our Earth. That is WHY they call this area, the Cradle of Human Civilization.

Then you must not be familiar with Scripture since the Fire is speaking of the total destruction of the CURRENT Universe. This is clear when you go back 3 verses and read this:
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That has what to do with Adam?

It shows that Adam, the first Human, passed his unique human intelligence, which is like God's (Gen. 3:22) to our Planet or people who evolved from Apes, the sons of God. Genesis 6:4 confirms this.

No, but I look forward to meeting both Adam and Eve in the 3rd Heaven since Scripture documents them being born again Spiritually. Gen. 1:27 and Gen. 5:1-2. How bout you?
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Yes, I hope to meet them also.

Doesn't matter since it is impossible to "clean dissolve" our Earth like it was Adam's earth.

No. Stop dreaming. There will be a new earth one day and this old world will be burned. It is very possible to make it go away.

I know, but YOU claim the flood shown in Isaiah 24:19 is FUTURE. Have you changed your mind? I hope so, since your view does not agree with Scripture. Can you explain HOW water can "clean dissolve" our Rocky Earth?

Of course, but you are claiming that the description of the SNARE shows that we will be "clean dissolved" in water and destroyed,

What the flock are you babbling about?
The verse said fire not water.

I agree and now I see that you are changing your mind about what Isaish 24:19 is actually teaching. That's good.

Hiding behind your comedy again I see. I am sorry for your willful ignorance of the Snare.
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Capitol S even. Wow. Your fantasies must seem important to you.

It's the FLOOD, which traps the all knowing Evols, and you.

I missed the flood actually as did all evos. By a loooong shot! This is news???

You didn't miss the Flood because ONLY Humans post. This proves that you are a Human Being, descended from Adam, who never stepped foot on this Planet. It also confirms that the False ToE is totally wrong, since it seems to know nothing about where Humans originated.

I suppose you also approve of teaching Evol Lies to our children in the Public Schools, such as that Humans evolved from the common ancestor as Apes?

Repeating insane stawmen doesn't help you.

Then refute me. It's easy for me to refute your view since it does not agree with Scripture. IF I am spinning fantasies, it should be easy for you to refute me Scripturally. Right?

If you were sane and in a Christian thread...maybe.

I posted 334 posts on the Christian only Origins board. A few liberal Christians tried to refute me, but found it impossible to do so. They wanted me to change God's Holy Word into a Fable which not only agreed with Theistic Evolutonism, but also Godless Evolution. I don't remember seeing you there.

Then please explain HOW the Ark was above the highest mountains of Adam's world AND resting upon the mountains of Ararat on the SAME 150th Day (5 months) after the beginning of the Flood.

Easy. The 150 days were..well, 150 days! At the end of that time the ark rested. But I assume the water rose before the end of that time! Duh.

The Ark was above the highest mountains (Gen. 7:24) AND resting in the mountains of Ararat on the SAME 150th day after the Flood began. I have explained my view, which you call insane. What is YOURs?

Those who are caught in this SNARE are trapped with their UnTrue views of the Literal Reality of God.

Really? Wow, sounds scary. Mostly insane though.

The Bible says for us to try the Spirits to see if they be good or evil.

Right. I am not sure He meant in the middle of a debate on a thread open to non believers? That refers to checking to see if they believe in Jesus and that He came in the flesh...etc. NOT to seeing whether people believe in your made up multiverses and space traveling, universe hopping arks!

Sorry, but your views have been soundly destroyed by God's Holy Word. It's what I told you before we began this debate. The traditional, religious view, which you defend is unsupportable Scripturally. It's not you, but the old time religious view of ancient men, which is at fault. God Bless you, and thank you for defending your Faith in the Fact that God is the Creator.

In Love,
Aman

 

[dad]

Dear Dad, Impossible since ll Peter 3:5 refers to the first heaven as the world (Kosmos) that THEN WAS.

I think the point is that BY GOD everything existed. Read it again.


3:5 - For when [SIZE=-1][/SIZE]they maintain this, it escapes their notice that by [SIZE=-1][/SIZE]the word of God the heavens existed long ago and the earth was formed [SIZE=-1][/SIZE] out of water and by water,

Now, for details on the heaven part of what He created, we can easily check Genesis. No mystery.

14 And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day[SIZE=-1][/SIZE] from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years: 15 And let them be for lights in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth: and it was so.

So you cannot shove this place anywhere. It is where the lights were put. Calling it another universe is self serving nonsense.


Now, in the other part of heaven we see this..


20 And God said, Let the waters bring forth abundantly the moving creature that hath life, and fowl that may fly above the earth in the open firmament of heaven.


Birds in the firmament. No other universe whatsoever. Now cut the foolishness.

Which one do you think was totally destroyed in the Flood? Your idea is refuted Scripturally since ll Peter 2:5 tells us that God spared NOT the old world. (Greek-Kosmos) Try again?

That refers mainly to the people. Of course the earth was also greatly affected.

Only to those who believe that Hell is within our Planet.

Correction. It was a prison under the earth. You know what 'down' means? Stop invoking multiverses at the drop of an imaginary hat!

Eph 4:10 He that descended is the same also that ascended up far above all heavens,

FYI, that includes the THIRD Heaven. Right? Can you explain what is above ALL heavens? except maybe, the Multiverse?

No one can explain that. Do not pretend you have a map of the third heaven or know all about it!!!!!!!

That is the verse I posted which shows that the Flood was upon Adam's earth for 150 days (5 months). Can you refute it?

No one doubted the flood lasted 150 days. Try being honest. The issue is your claim that on the one hundred and fiftieth day, the waters finally went over the mountains, and it landed on one!! Is that not your claim? You see, I would place the water going over the hills bit probably closer to 40 days after the flood started than to 150 days. So quit claiming one certain day.

You have NOT yet posted Genesis 8:4 which shows the time when the ARK rested upon the mountains of Ararat, on our Earth.

I think it is obvious that was at the end of the 150 day period. Why pretend it is some burning issue??

See? The flood began on 2/17 and was above the highest mountains 150 Days AFTER the Flood began (Gen 7:24) AND it rested on the mountains of Ararat on the SAME 150 days (5 months) after the Flood began, exactly as I posted. Genesis 8:4

No. I don't see. Where is the part where the waters finally went over the hills on a certain day again?-- In your head. Tha

The evidence of the arrival of the FIRST human farmers is STILL with us:

Map: Fertile Cresent, 9000 to 4500 BCE

No one questions there was farming. How insane. Now your dates are another matter. You will not be able to prove them, so lose em.

I didn't set the date. The evidence of the FIRST human farming on this Planet did.

Gibberish. The fact that people farmed does not set a date.

Did you notice that the center of the Fertile Crescent is just south of Lake Van, in the mountains of Ararat? This indicates that Noah's descendants walked out of the mountains into the valleys of Northern Mesopotamia where farming, city building, math, writing, and EVERY other Human trait first appeared on our Earth. That is WHY they call this area, the Cradle of Human Civilization.

Maybe. Maybe not. There were many lakes after the flood.

It shows that Adam, the first Human, passed his unique human intelligence, which is like God's (Gen. 3:22)

That is unintelligent!!! Better scoot through your multiverses and ask Adam for a fresh dose!!

to our Planet or people who evolved from Apes, the sons of God.

Hilarious. So now the sons of God are brainless apes no less!!!! Pretty lame.

Doesn't matter since it is impossible to "clean dissolve" our Earth like it was Adam's earth.

I am about ready to clean dissolve this thread. Your incessant repetitive ranting has grown old.

Of course, but you are claiming that the description of the SNARE shows that we will be "clean dissolved" in water and destroyed,

No idea what you are blathering about. You seem to enjoy using and bolding the word snare for some reason.

You didn't miss the Flood because ONLY Humans post.

Yes, I really was not there at the time of the flood and did not drown, or sail on the ark. Get serious.

This proves that you are a Human Being, descended from Adam, who never stepped foot on this Planet.

Ha. So if I never went through the flood of Noah, I never set foot on the planet even!! Rich. My, you sure have solid, sound reasoned well thought out theories..

It also confirms that the False ToE is totally wrong, since it seems to know nothing about where Humans originated.

If you think your claims of us not even ever being on the planet hurt evolution, you are dreaming.

I suppose you also approve of teaching Evol Lies to our children in the Public Schools, such as that Humans evolved from the common ancestor as Apes?

God created man. Not sure how I can be more clear than that. Is you mom around, or maybe a friend that can post for you in a cohesive, somewhat normal sounding way??

I posted 334 posts on the Christian only Origins board. A few liberal Christians tried to refute me, but found it impossible to do so. They wanted me to change God's Holy Word into a Fable which not only agreed with Theistic Evolutonism, but also Godless Evolution. I don't remember seeing you there.

No worries, apparently people never set foot on this planet. How could I post somewhere??

The Ark was above the highest mountains (Gen. 7:24) AND resting in the mountains of Ararat on the SAME 150th day after the Flood began. I have explained my view, which you call insane. What is YOURs?

It did rest at the end of the flood. During the flood the waters got high. All within this 150 days. Stop trying to make it all fit in day 150!


PS...When making a new post, try not to cut and paste the same stuff.

 

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[Aman777]

Originally Posted by Aman777

Dear Dad, Impossible since ll Peter 3:5 refers to the first heaven as the world (Kosmos) that THEN WAS.
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I think the point is that BY GOD everything existed. Read it again.

3:5 - For when they maintain this, it escapes their notice that by the word of God the heavens existed long ago and the earth was formed out of water and by water,

Dear Dad, You switched the version of Scripture we were using. Is this how you find support for your ideas, which you claim agrees with one version of Scripture or the other? Here is the King James Version:

2Pe 3:5 For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water:

YOUR version says the earth (ground) was formed by water. That is a ridiculous view of what is actually written. Is this the Mormon version? or the Jehovahs Witness version?


Now, for details on the heaven part of what He created, we can easily check Genesis. No mystery.

http://classic.studylight.org/desk/?query=ge+1:14&t=kjv&sr=1&l=en

14 And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years: 15 And let them be for lights in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth: and it was so.

So you cannot shove this place anywhere. It is where the lights were put. Calling it another universe is self serving nonsense.

You don't seem to know which Universe the lights, which were made the 4th Day, are in. They cannot be in the First Heaven since it had no Sun nor Moon. It cannot be the Third Heaven since the Lamb is the Light thereof. Here's the answer.

The beginning of our Universe was on the THIRD Day. Genesis 2:4 We are part of the other "heavenS" (Plural) which were made then. Notice that the Sun, Moon, and Stars were NOT made until the FOURTH Day. Genesis 1:16 Science has recently learned that it was Millions of years AFTER the Big Bang BEFORE the Stars were made and put forth their Light.

Only God could have known this 3k years ago, and told us about it. It's MORE proof of God. OUR present world or universe is the ONLY one which has Stars. The first and third worlds don't need them since Jesus was present in the first and is there preparing a place for us in the 3rd Heaven.

Now, in the other part of heaven we see this..

20 And God said, Let the waters bring forth abundantly the moving creature that hath life, and fowl that may fly above the earth in the open firmament of heaven.

Birds in the firmament. No other universe whatsoever. Now cut the foolishness.

The next verse tells us more information about which creatures were brought forth from the water:

Gen 1:21 And God created great whales, and every living creature that moveth, which the waters brought forth abundantly, after their kind, and every winged fowl after His kind: and God saw that it was good.

The Fowl, which were not made until the beginning of the 6th Day, matched the creatures made from the water on the 5th Day. This is because God sees the future, and made the fowl from the water, to match the fowl which Jesus did not make until the NEXT Day. They are His kinds, showing that Jesus made the common ancestor of Birds and ADAM, with His own Hands.

You plead ignorance of when prehistoric man was made, but God and Science are in total agreement, since the sons of God (prehistoric man) was made from the water on the 5th Day. This was some 3.7 Billion years ago, in man's time. This agrees with God's time which shows that each Day is some 4.5 Billion years in length, in man's time, and the 5th Day was yesterday in God's time.


Which one do you think was totally destroyed in the Flood? Your idea is refuted Scripturally since ll Peter 2:5 tells us that God spared NOT the old world. (Greek-Kosmos) Try again?

That refers mainly to the people. Of course the earth was also greatly affected.

What the Word actually says is that God "spared NOT" the old Kosmos or Universe. ll Peter 3:5 tells us it was totally destroyed in the Flood. The people who were on that first Earth all died in the Flood. The First Universe was "clean dissolved" as Isaiah 24:19 reveals.

Only to those who believe that Hell is within our Planet.

Correction. It was a prison under the earth. You know what 'down' means? Stop invoking multiverses at the drop of an imaginary hat!

The reason I mentioned it is because you implied that Hell was under our Earth. My point is that all three unverses have ground, and there is plenty of ground left over from the Creation of it BEFORE the first Day. Genesis 1:1-2 Which Earth is Hell under?


Eph 4:10 He that descended is the same also that ascended up far above all heavens,

FYI, that includes the THIRD Heaven. Right? Can you explain what is above ALL heavens? except maybe, the Multiverse?
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No one can explain that. Do not pretend you have a map of the third heaven or know all about it!!!!!!!

Of course not, but I know about New Jerusalem, which is 1500 miles Square which means that it is also 1500 miles tall. It has streets of Gold and Gates of Solid Pearls. There is NOTHING like it on this lost and dying world. My point is that Jesus ascended above the THIRD Heaven indicating that we do indeed live in a Multiverse with 3 Universes and areas ABOVE those 3 heavens.

That is the verse I posted which shows that the Flood was upon Adam's earth for 150 days (5 months). Can you refute it?

No one doubted the flood lasted 150 days. Try being honest. The issue is your claim that on the one hundred and fiftieth day, the waters finally went over the mountains, and it landed on one!! Is that not your claim? You see, I would place the water going over the hills bit probably closer to 40 days after the flood started than to 150 days. So quit claiming one certain day.

Genesis 7:24 tells us that on the 150th day after the Flood began, the Ark was above the highest mountains on the FIRST world, which was floating in the water. Genesis 8:4 tells us the Ark was resting some 5 miles below the highest mountains of our Earth on the SAME 150th Day after the Flood began.


You have NOT yet posted Genesis 8:4 which shows the time when the ARK rested upon the mountains of Ararat, on our Earth.

I think it is obvious that was at the end of the 150 day period. Why pretend it is some burning issue??

Because it shows that the first firmament SANK and the ARK floated onto Lake Van, Turkey in our Universe, on the SAME day the firmament was "clean dissolved" exactly as Isaiah 24:19 tells us.


See? The flood began on 2/17 and was above the highest mountains 150 Days AFTER the Flood began (Gen 7:24) AND it rested on the mountains of Ararat on the SAME 150 days (5 months) after the Flood began, exactly as I posted. Genesis 8:4

No. I don't see. Where is the part where the waters finally went over the hills on a certain day again?-- In your head. Tha

The Flood began on 2/17. Gen 7:11
The Ark lifed from the Earth after 40 days. Gen 7:17
Gen 7:20 Fifteen cubits upward did the waters prevail; and the mountains were covered.

See, it was after the 40 days and nights of rain when the Ark first floated above the ground. Later when the water was 22 1/2 feet high, the mountains were covered, showing that the first Earth was much smaller than our world, as I have posted over and over.

The traditional religious account says the Ark was 15 cubits above the highest mountains, but that is NOT what is written. Is it?

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[Aman777]

The evidence of the arrival of the FIRST human farmers is STILL with us:

Map: Fertile Cresent, 9000 to 4500 BCE
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No one questions there was farming. How insane. Now your dates are another matter. You will not be able to prove them, so lose em.

I didn't set the date. The evidence of the FIRST human farming on this Planet did.

Gibberish. The fact that people farmed does not set a date.

Perhaps you have trouble with the Fact that the Maps shows that the FIRST Human farming and city building happened exactly where Noah arrived, and gives dates. Did you miss the Historical Dates which show the oldest Human Farming at some 9000 BC? That's some 11,000 years ago.

Did you notice that the center of the Fertile Crescent is just south of Lake Van, in the mountains of Ararat? This indicates that Noah's descendants walked out of the mountains into the valleys of Northern Mesopotamia where farming, city building, math, writing, and EVERY other Human trait first appeared on our Earth. That is WHY they call this area, the Cradle of Human Civilization.
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Maybe. Maybe not. There were many lakes after the flood.

Our world has NEVER suffered a Global Flood. That is nonsense and again, the mistaken ideas of ancient men which CANNOT be supported by Scripture. Don't believe me? Try to support the Flood story, Scripturally.

It shows that Adam, the first Human, passed his unique human intelligence, which is like God's (Gen. 3:22)

That is unintelligent!!! Better scoot through your multiverses and ask Adam for a fresh dose!!

Do you really think your facetious remarks make you appear more credible?

to our Planet or people who evolved from Apes, the sons of God.

Hilarious. So now the sons of God are brainless apes no less!!!! Pretty lame.

Have you noticed that the sons of God are innocent? Do you believe that is WHY God calls those who have been born again, the sons of God? Could it be because Humans become the sons of God AFTER they are counted as innocent because of Jesus' sacrifice for us?

Doesn't matter since it is impossible to "clean dissolve" our Earth like it was Adam's earth.

I am about ready to clean dissolve this thread. Your incessant repetitive ranting has grown old.

Of course, but you are claiming that the description of the SNARE shows that we will be "clean dissolved" in water and destroyed,

No idea what you are blathering about. You seem to enjoy using and bolding the word snare for some reason.

It's because you constantly try to divert attention fromthe fact that you have never noticed it, and that is what caused your confusion.

You didn't miss the Flood because ONLY Humans post.

Yes, I really was not there at the time of the flood and did not drown, or sail on the ark. Get serious.

This proves that you are a Human Being, descended from Adam, who never stepped foot on this Planet.

Ha. So if I never went through the flood of Noah, I never set foot on the planet even!! Rich. My, you sure have solid, sound reasoned well thought out theories..

I am sorry that your ideas have been so soundly refuted, Scripturally. Better study up if you're going to try to teach what the Bible actually says, instead of what some religionist has told you it says.

It also confirms that the False ToE is totally wrong, since it seems to know nothing about where Humans originated.

If you think your claims of us not even ever being on the planet hurt evolution, you are dreaming.

That's not what I show. I show that Adam never stepped foot on this Planet because he lived in an enclosed firmament in Lake Van, Turkey and never escaped that world. Noah did, and brought humans to our Earth.

I suppose you also approve of teaching Evol Lies to our children in the Public Schools, such as that Humans evolved from the common ancestor as Apes?

God created man. Not sure how I can be more clear than that. Is you mom around, or maybe a friend that can post for you in a cohesive, somewhat normal sounding way??

I'm sorry but my mom, dad, brother, wife, granddaughter, cousins, aunts, uncles, grandparents are with Jesus. It's what happens if you live long enough.

I posted 334 posts on the Christian only Origins board. A few liberal Christians tried to refute me, but found it impossible to do so. They wanted me to change God's Holy Word into a Fable which not only agreed with Theistic Evolutonism, but also Godless Evolution. I don't remember seeing you there.

No worries, apparently people never set foot on this planet. How could I post somewhere??

The Ark was above the highest mountains (Gen. 7:24) AND resting in the mountains of Ararat on the SAME 150th day after the Flood began. I have explained my view, which you call insane. What is YOURs?

It did rest at the end of the flood. During the flood the waters got high. All within this 150 days. Stop trying to make it all fit in day 150!

I will IF you promise to actually read the verses instead of making remarks which do NOT agree with what is written. Here are the verses:

Gen 7:24 And the waters prevailed upon the earth an hundred and fifty days.
Gen 8:4 And the ark rested in the seventh month, on the seventeenth day of the month, upon the mountains of Ararat.

I've even given you the math which shows that when the Ark rested upon the mountains of Ararat that it was EXACTLY 5 months from when the Flood began.

PS...When making a new post, try not to cut and paste the same stuff.

Are you suggesting I make it up, like the people you follow? Sorry, but it's important to me to get it right. That is WHY I support what I write with the agreement of Scripture, science, and history. You should try it sometime. God Bless you.

In Love,
Aman

 

[dad]

Our world has NEVER suffered a Global Flood.



to our Planet or people who evolved from Apes, the sons of God.

You didn't miss the Flood because ONLY Humans post.

This proves that you are a Human Being, descended from Adam, who never stepped foot on this Planet.


That's not what I show. I show that Adam never stepped foot on this Planet because he lived in an enclosed firmament in Lake Van, Turkey and never escaped that world. Noah did, and brought humans to our Earth.

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[stevevw]

The evidence of the arrival of the FIRST human farmers is STILL with us:

Map: Fertile Cresent, 9000 to 4500 BCE
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I didn't set the date. The evidence of the FIRST human farming on this Planet did.


Perhaps you have trouble with the Fact that the Maps shows that the FIRST Human farming and city building happened exactly where Noah arrived, and gives dates. Did you miss the Historical Dates which show the oldest Human Farming at some 9000 BC? That's some 11,000 years ago.

Did you notice that the center of the Fertile Crescent is just south of Lake Van, in the mountains of Ararat? This indicates that Noah's descendants walked out of the mountains into the valleys of Northern Mesopotamia where farming, city building, math, writing, and EVERY other Human trait first appeared on our Earth. That is WHY they call this area, the Cradle of Human Civilization.
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Our world has NEVER suffered a Global Flood. That is nonsense and again, the mistaken ideas of ancient men which CANNOT be supported by Scripture. Don't believe me? Try to support the Flood story, Scripturally.

It shows that Adam, the first Human, passed his unique human intelligence, which is like God's (Gen. 3:22)



Do you really think your facetious remarks make you appear more credible?

to our Planet or people who evolved from Apes, the sons of God.



Have you noticed that the sons of God are innocent? Do you believe that is WHY God calls those who have been born again, the sons of God? Could it be because Humans become the sons of God AFTER they are counted as innocent because of Jesus' sacrifice for us?

Doesn't matter since it is impossible to "clean dissolve" our Earth like it was Adam's earth.



Of course, but you are claiming that the description of the SNARE shows that we will be "clean dissolved" in water and destroyed,


It's because you constantly try to divert attention fromthe fact that you have never noticed it, and that is what caused your confusion.

You didn't miss the Flood because ONLY Humans post.

This proves that you are a Human Being, descended from Adam, who never stepped foot on this Planet.



I am sorry that your ideas have been so soundly refuted, Scripturally. Better study up if you're going to try to teach what the Bible actually says, instead of what some religionist has told you it says.

It also confirms that the False ToE is totally wrong, since it seems to know nothing about where Humans originated.



That's not what I show. I show that Adam never stepped foot on this Planet because he lived in an enclosed firmament in Lake Van, Turkey and never escaped that world. Noah did, and brought humans to our Earth.

I suppose you also approve of teaching Evol Lies to our children in the Public Schools, such as that Humans evolved from the common ancestor as Apes?



I'm sorry but my mom, dad, brother, wife, granddaughter, cousins, aunts, uncles, grandparents are with Jesus. It's what happens if you live long enough.

I posted 334 posts on the Christian only Origins board. A few liberal Christians tried to refute me, but found it impossible to do so. They wanted me to change God's Holy Word into a Fable which not only agreed with Theistic Evolutonism, but also Godless Evolution. I don't remember seeing you there.



The Ark was above the highest mountains (Gen. 7:24) AND resting in the mountains of Ararat on the SAME 150th day after the Flood began. I have explained my view, which you call insane. What is YOURs?



I will IF you promise to actually read the verses instead of making remarks which do NOT agree with what is written. Here are the verses:

Gen 7:24 And the waters prevailed upon the earth an hundred and fifty days.
Gen 8:4 And the ark rested in the seventh month, on the seventeenth day of the month, upon the mountains of Ararat.

I've even given you the math which shows that when the Ark rested upon the mountains of Ararat that it was EXACTLY 5 months from when the Flood began.



Are you suggesting I make it up, like the people you follow? Sorry, but it's important to me to get it right. That is WHY I support what I write with the agreement of Scripture, science, and history. You should try it sometime. God Bless you.

In Love,
Aman

This wouldn't having something to do with The Urantia Foundation.

 

[Aman777]

Dear dad, Thanks for admitting that God's Holy Word has completely destroyed your unsupportable view of the Creation of the perfect Heaven. That is because your views are the SAME as ancient man's Theology, which cannot be supported Scripturally. God Bless you.

BTW, Are you trying to look like Miley Cyrus?

In Love,
Aman

 

[Aman777]

This wouldn't having something to do with The Urantia Foundation.

Dear Steve, No, The following exposes the False Urantia thinking in this Wiki account:

>>The emergence of humans is presented as having occurred about a million years ago from a branch of superior primates originating from a lemur ancestor. The first humans are said to have been a pair of twins called Andon and Fonta, born in 991,485 B.C.<<

Humans did not arrive on this Earth, until some 10k years ago, in the mountains of Ararat. Humans did NOT evolve from ANY other creature, since Adam was FIRST made BEFORE any other living being. Genesis 2:4-7 That's God's Truth, which shows that the Urantia position is Scripturally Wrong. It's about as dumb as the False Theory of Evolution.

In Love,
Aman

 

[dad]

Dear dad, .... God Bless you.

BTW, Are you trying to look like Miley Cyrus?

In Love,
Aman

Thanks. I was looking at your wild eyed claims, and trying to think of some appropriate response.

Originally Posted by Aman777
Our world has NEVER suffered a Global Flood.



to our Planet or people who evolved from Apes, the sons of God.

You didn't miss the Flood because ONLY Humans post.

This proves that you are a Human Being, descended from Adam, who never stepped foot on this Planet.


That's not what I show. I show that Adam never stepped foot on this Planet because he lived in an enclosed firmament in Lake Van, Turkey and never escaped that world. Noah did, and brought humans to our Earth.[/quote]

 

[Aman777]

Originally Posted by Aman777

Dear dad, .... God Bless you.

BTW, Are you trying to look like Miley Cyrus?

Thanks. I was looking at your wild eyed claims, and trying to think of some appropriate response.

Originally Posted by Aman777
Our world has NEVER suffered a Global Flood.

to our Planet or people who evolved from Apes, the sons of God.

Our world has never suffered a Global Flood but Adam's world was "clean dissolved" in Noah's Flood. Isaiah 24:19

Genesis 1:21 and Science agree that Life began in the water as the emergence of the sons of God (prehistoric man) shows. Can you explain the bones of prehistoric man, or must you claim that they are not there? or put there by some imaginary Global Flood?

You didn't miss the Flood because ONLY Humans post.

This proves that you are a Human Being, descended from Adam, who never stepped foot on this Planet.

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With your "belief" how do you explain the fact that Humans have the unique intelligence, which only God and Adam had (Gen. 3:22) when Adam lived and died on the first Earth, which was "clean dissolved" in the Flood? Adam NEVER stepped foot on Planet Earth, as I posted.

That's not what I show. I show that Adam never stepped foot on this Planet because he lived in an enclosed firmament in Lake Van, Turkey and never escaped that world. Noah did, and brought humans to our Earth.

According to YOUR interpretation, Adam lived on the present Earth. Noah left from the Garden of Eden and returned to the same area after floating around the world for months, on top of 30k feet of water. Your view claims that Noah sent out the Dove and it came back because the whole world was covered with water. The Flood story shows that ONE week later, the Dove went out again and returned to the Ark with a leaf of an Olive leaf in it's beak. Right?

Please explain HOW the Olive seed germinated in the mud, grew up and put forth Limbs with leaves, in ONE week for the Dove to pluck off and take back to the Ark. If your view is based stricly on Faith, I understand....however...there is another way to interpret this story, and it makes much more sense than the traditional religious story, which MUST be accepted by Faith ONLY, since it is the pure Fantasy of superstitious ancient men, and does NOT agree with Scripture.

Try to be serious this time and avoid juvenile humor, if at all possible. God Bless you.

In Love,
Aman

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[dad]

Please explain HOW the Olive seed germinated in the mud, grew up and put forth Limbs with leaves, in ONE week for the Dove to pluck off and take back to the Ark.

Apparently plants grew fast in that former time. After all God planted a garden and we ate the fruit that week.
No need to have people wafted in from another planet between the time the birds were sent out till they returned!

 

[Aman777]

Originally Posted by Aman777

Please explain HOW the Olive seed germinated in the mud, grew up and put forth Limbs with leaves, in ONE week for the Dove to pluck off and take back to the Ark.
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Apparently plants grew fast in that former time. After all God planted a garden and we ate the fruit that week.

Dear Dad, According to the traditional religious story it was just 4300 years ago. Olive trees grew at the same rate they do today. IOW, it's another indication that the traditional story cannot be supported Scripturally.

Also a week to God is some 25 Billion years, in man's time. It's 4.5 Billion years of man's time per each of God's Days. Those who don't know what Scriptural Day it is, remain in the confusion of their own made up "beliefs."

No need to have people wafted in from another planet between the time the birds were sent out till they returned!

The Raven was sent out first and did NOT return to the Ark. That is the key which tells you WHERE the Ark was. Lake Van is the largest Lake in Turkey and is 75 miles wide in some places. As the first firmament or enclosed Biosphere floated in the Lake, the Raven simply flew to shore.

Then the Dove was sent out and returned to the Ark because his range was not as great as the Raven's, since the Dove is a smaller bird. The Dove was sent out again, but this time, reached shore and brought the leaf of an Olive Tree back to the 450 ft. boat. IOW, the Olive Tree was there all along but the Ark was too far from the shore until a week later.

Once you know this, you can stop believing the false superstitious ideas of men who lived thousands of years BEFORE the first Scientists. Also, notice that this interpretation agrees in EVERY way with what is actually written in God's Holy Word, while the traditional story makes sense ONLY by Faith in the Magical Olive Tree of the Flood. God Bless you.

In Love,
Aman

 

[dad]

Originally Posted by Aman777 Dear Dad, According to the traditional religious story it was just 4300 years ago. Olive trees grew at the same rate they do today.

Doesn't follow. Now you need to prove that claim.

Also a week to God is some 25 Billion years,

So He was dead for 3 days...that makes about 3.5 billion years in your time claimed. Yet here we are, 2013 AD.

Lake Van is the largest Lake in Turkey and is 75 miles wide in some places. As the first firmament or enclosed Biosphere floated in
the Lake,

Our world has NEVER suffered a Global Flood.



to our Planet or people who evolved from Apes, the sons of God.

You didn't miss the Flood because ONLY Humans post.

This proves that you are a Human Being, descended from Adam, who never stepped foot on this Planet.


That's not what I show. I show that Adam never stepped foot on this Planet because he lived in an enclosed firmament in Lake Van, Turkey and never escaped that world. Noah did, and brought humans to our Earth

 

[Aman777]

Originally Posted by Aman777

Originally Posted by Aman777 Dear Dad, According to the traditional religious story it was just 4300 years ago. Olive trees grew at the same rate they do today.
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Doesn't follow. Now you need to prove that claim.

Dear Dad, Go to this site which shows that some Olive trees still put forth olives after 3,000 years. What you are trying to say is that the Olive Trees were different so long ago. You are partially correct since many of them were just Babies. The world's 10 oldest living trees: Olive Tree of Vouves | MNN - Mother Nature Network

Also a week to God is some 25 Billion years,

So He was dead for 3 days...that makes about 3.5 billion years in your time claimed. Yet here we are, 2013 AD.

You don't know the difference between God and man, and that is obvious from your convoluted statement above. I'm sorry, but I mistook you for a Bible Believing Christian, instead of a Comedian.

Lake Van is the largest Lake in Turkey and is 75 miles wide in some places. As the first firmament or enclosed Biosphere floated in the Lake,

I don't know WHY you keep posting the things which you cannot refute. Peter, writing under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit tells us the first world, the world that THEN WAS, was "in the water and out of the water". 2Pe 3:5 I call that floating. What does a Comedian like you, call it?

>>>>>>>BIG SNIP of images of you as a Baby<<<<<<<

God Bless you. With a face like that, you need it.

In Love,
Aman
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[dad]

Dear Dad, Go to this site which shows that some Olive trees still put forth olives after 3,000 years.

Irrelevant. Both the flood and Peleg's day was long before that.

Also a week to God is some 25 Billion years,

Lake Van is the largest Lake in Turkey and is 75 miles wide in some places. As the first firmament or enclosed Biosphere floated in
the Lake,
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Our world has NEVER suffered a Global Flood.

to our Planet or people who evolved from Apes, the sons of God.

You didn't miss the Flood because ONLY Humans post.

This proves that you are a Human Being, descended from Adam, who never stepped foot on this Planet.


That's not what I show. I show that Adam never stepped foot on this Planet because he lived in an enclosed firmament in Lake Van, Turkey and never escaped that world. Noah did, and brought humans to our Earth
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Behold the quotes!

I don't know WHY you keep posting the things which you cannot refute. Peter, writing under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit tells us the first world, the world that THEN WAS, was "in the water and out of the water". 2Pe 3:5 I call that floating. What does a Comedian like you, call it?

I would call that before the waters were separated from the land in creation week.


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[Aman777]

Originally Posted by Aman777

Dear Dad, Go to this site which shows that some Olive trees still put forth olives after 3,000 years.
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Irrelevant. Both the flood and Peleg's day was long before that.

Dear Dad, UnScriptural, since Peleg was AFTER the Flood as Genesis 10:25 confirms. Peleg's lineage was through Noah's son, Shem. Try again? Are you aware that many read much more into this verse than it says? Don't try to slip in some religious theory. I prefer chapter and verse.

Also a week to God is some 25 Billion years,

This is because the Big Bang was 3 Days ago in God's time. Genesis 2:4 or some 13.7 Billion years ago in man's time. This means that each Day (Heb-Yowm-period of time) is some 4.5 Billion years in length in man's time.

Lake Van is the largest Lake in Turkey and is 75 miles wide in some places. As the first firmament or enclosed Biosphere floated in
the Lake,


I supported my views with the Agreement of Peter and God in ll Peter 3:5 but you seem to have missed my Scriptural support for this. I asked you what Peter meant by being "in the water and out of the water" but you ignored me, as usual. I suppose you have learned that it does little good to try to peddle your UnScriptural stories to me.

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Our world has NEVER suffered a Global Flood.

This is true for many reasons. Scripturally, God tells Noah that He is going to destroy the violent people of the first Earth "with the Earth." Genesis 6:13 I have given you many more verses saying the same thing from BOTH the Old and New Testaments, and so far, you have refuted NONE of them.

to our Planet or people who evolved from Apes, the sons of God.

The sons of God (prehistoric people) were created from the water, which is the SAME thing Science teaches when it says ALL life, on this Planet, came from the "common ancestor" of life on our Planet. They are as willfully ignorant of God's Truth as you.

You didn't miss the Flood because ONLY Humans post.

This proves that you are a Human Being, descended from Adam, who never stepped foot on this Planet.


That's not what I show. I show that Adam never stepped foot on this Planet because he lived in an enclosed firmament in Lake Van, Turkey and never escaped that world. Noah did, and brought humans to our Earth

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Behold the quotes! You have work to do Aman..

I stand behind all of what I post, and can post supporting Scripture, but you cannot. We must accept your views by Blind Faith in someone who dodges, weaves, and does all sorts of elusive manuevers in order to avoid
revealing that all you've got is the "foolishness of preaching". 1Cr 1:21

I don't know WHY you keep posting the things which you cannot refute. Peter, writing under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit tells us the first world, the world that THEN WAS, was "in the water and out of the water". 2Pe 3:5 I call that floating. What does a Comedian like you, call it?

I would call that before the waters were separated from the land in creation week.

UnScriptural. The waters were separated from the waters when God put the firmament into the middle of the water on Day 2. The water from Under the firmament was brought into the firmament at the beginning of the THIRD Day.

Gen 1:9¶And God said, Let the waters under the heaven be gathered together unto one place, and let the dry land appear: and it was so.

See? The dry appeared, but it was NOT separated from the water, but was obviously on top of it. That's the Flat Earth, which I told you about and you were unable to refute my view. In fact, you don't even seem to try. You seem to just want to mock and dismiss my Faith, while I applaud your's. God Bless you.

In Love,
Aman

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[dad]

Dear Dad, UnScriptural, since Peleg was AFTER the Flood as Genesis 10:25 confirms. Peleg's lineage was through Noah's son, Shem. Try again?

Not sure what you thought the point was, but that ain't it! Of course Peleg was after the flood.

Are you aware that many read much more into this verse than it says? Don't try to slip in some religious theory. I prefer chapter and verse.

What verse? By the way we should listen to you warning about others slipping things in!!??

This is because the Big Bang was 3 Days ago in God's time.

There was no big bang. Basing bible interpretation on a lie is not the way to go.

Genesis 2:4 or some 13.7 Billion years ago in man's time. This means that each Day (Heb-Yowm-period of time) is some 4.5 Billion years in length in man's time.

Not at all, it just means you swallow man's word over God's.

Lake Van is the largest Lake in Turkey and is 75 miles wide in some places. As the first firmament or enclosed Biosphere floated in
the Lake,


I supported my views with the Agreement of Peter and God in ll Peter 3:5

Trying to use that verse to get the planet in a lake, then all the people change planets is nothing short of insane.

Our world has NEVER suffered a Global Flood.

This is true for many reasons. Scripturally, God tells Noah that He is going to destroy the violent people of the first Earth "with the Earth." Genesis 6:13 I have given you many more verses saying the same thing from BOTH the Old and New Testaments, and so far, you have refuted NONE of them.

None of that relates to the claim there was no flood.
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The sons of God (prehistoric people) were created from the water,

Baloney.

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"in the water and out of the water". 2Pe 3:5 I call that floating. What does a Comedian like you, call it?

Try to listen, I already answered. I know you like to hear yourself talk. That verse is about creation week, and the separation of the waters from the land.

UnScriptural. The waters were separated from the waters when God put the firmament into the middle of the water on Day 2. The water from Under the firmament was brought into the firmament at the beginning of the THIRD Day.

Gen 1:9¶And God said, Let the waters under the heaven be gathered together unto one place, and let the dry land appear: and it was so.

You misunderstand something if not everything there. The firmament is the sky and space. The waters under that are water on earth!

See? The dry appeared, but it was NOT separated from the water, but was obviously on top of it.

?? See above.

That's the Flat Earth,

No, nothing remotely similar actually. That is a flat theory.

Now let's recap your ideas...



That's the Flat Earth,


Also a week to God is some 25 Billion years,


Lake Van ... the first firmament or enclosed Biosphere floated in the Lake,


Our world has NEVER suffered a Global Flood.


... people who evolved from Apes, the sons of God.

You didn't miss the Flood ...

.. Adam, who never stepped foot on this Planet.


...I show that Adam never stepped foot on this Planet because he lived in an enclosed firmament in Lake Van, Turkey and never escaped that world.

Noah did, and brought humans to our Earth



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[Aman777]

Originally Posted by Aman777 Dear Dad, According to the traditional religious story it was just 4300 years ago. Olive trees grew at the same rate they do today.

Doesn't follow. Now you need to prove that claim.

Dear Dad, Go to this site which shows that some Olive trees still put forth olives after 3,000 years. What you are trying to say is that the Olive Trees were different so long ago. You are partially correct since many of them were just Babies. The world's 10 oldest living trees: Olive Tree of Vouves | MNN - Mother Nature Network
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Not sure what you thought the point was, but that ain't it! Of course Peleg was after the flood.

Dear Dad, Just showing your use of deceptive tactics by changing the subject in order to avoid your previous flawed statement about the Olive Tree. The traditional view of ancient Goatherders, which you defend, tells us the Flood was just a thousand years before, and Peleg was several generaions from Noah, making Peleg the same age as the oldest Olive Trees on Earth. Your flawed statement is refuted Scripturally.

What I am trying to get you to do is to tell us HOW the earth was divided in the days of Peleg. I can hardly wait to hear that entertaining story.

Are you aware that many read much more into this verse than it says? Don't try to slip in some religious theory. I prefer chapter and verse.

What verse? By the way we should listen to you warning about others slipping things in!!??

There was no big bang. Basing bible interpretation on a lie is not the way to go.

Not at all, it just means you swallow man's word over God's.
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Try to keep up or are you ashamed of posting what you think the verse says about dividing the earth at the time of Peleg? Here's the verse you seem to be hiding from: Gen 10:25


Then tell us YOUR story of the beginning of our Universe, Scripturally. I don't think you can.

Trying to use that verse to get the planet in a lake, then all the people change planets is nothing short of insane.

Again you dodge and weave. I haven't tried to get a Planet in a Lake. I show that the entire firmament, Universe or Heaven was floating in the water according to Peter. You make fun of what Scripture says and now you are backing down from your own views.

Aman:>>Our world has NEVER suffered a Global Flood.

This is true for many reasons. Scripturally, God tells Noah that He is going to destroy the violent people of the first Earth "with the Earth." Genesis 6:13 I have given you many more verses saying the same thing from BOTH the Old and New Testaments, and so far, you have refuted NONE of them.

None of that relates to the claim there was no flood.
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Baloney.
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Then show us the evidence for the Flood on our Earth. You cannot, since it is nothing but the foolish ideas of ancient men, which you follow.
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Aman:>>"in the water and out of the water". 2Pe 3:5 I call that floating. What does a Comedian like you, call it?

Try to listen, I already answered. I know you like to hear yourself talk. That verse is about creation week, and the separation of the waters from the land.

EVERYTHING is within the Creation week since Gen. 1:1-Gen. 2:3 IS the complete HISTORY of the creation of the perfect Heaven. According to your Theology, God rested long ago, and then the Flood came. That is totally UNScriptural.

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Aman:>>UnScriptural. The waters were separated from the waters when God put the firmament into the middle of the water on Day 2. The water from Under the firmament was brought into the firmament at the beginning of the THIRD Day.

Gen 1:9¶And God said, Let the waters under the heaven be gathered together unto one place, and let the dry land appear: and it was so.

You misunderstand something if not everything there. The firmament is the sky and space. The waters under that are water on earth!

The firmament is the entire world or Universe of Adam. It is totally UnScriptural for you to post your ancient man's view that it's the Sky. You added Space which ancient men knew nothing about.

See? The dry appeared, but it was NOT separated from the water, but was obviously on top of it.
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?? See above.

All I see is your diversion since Genesis 1:9 refutes your view.

You misunderstand something if not everything there. The firmament is the sky and space. The waters under that are water on earth!

?? See above.

No, nothing remotely similar actually. That is a flat theory.
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Reminds me of Congressional Republicans. They disagree with everything, while offering NO plan of their own.
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Now let's recap your ideas...

That's the Flat Earth,
Also a week to God is some 25 Billion years,
Lake Van ... the first firmament or enclosed Biosphere floated in the Lake,
Our world has NEVER suffered a Global Flood.
... people who evolved from Apes, the sons of God.
You didn't miss the Flood ...
.. Adam, who never stepped foot on this Planet.
...I show that Adam never stepped foot on this Planet because he lived in an enclosed firmament in Lake Van, Turkey and never escaped that world.
Noah did, and brought humans to our Earth

Thanks for showing the verses which I provided the agreement of Scripture, science and history to support my views. You mock God's Holy Word and try to make His Truth a part of your comedy routine, while hiding from His Truth. It's hard to discuss something with someone who has NO support for their views. God Bless you.

In Love,
Aman
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