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A Canadian doctor just stated, on the news radio, that vaccinated people do not have to worry about the non vaccinated.. It is the non vaccinated that need to be careful.. He was talking about getting together for holidays and meeting indoors as it is now colder outside.
The problem is that you are trying to compare drunk driving with being unvaccinated. That is a false dichotomy. But it also shows how you think of the unvaccinated.But it does mean that you're not recklessly endangering others. Which is the point.
Well, let's take a look...
So you think driving sober is "virtue signaling?" You still don't get it. If you don't take reasonable steps
(vaccination, weekly COVID checks, distancing) to avoid infecting others, it's reckless endangerment. It's not about appearances, it's about the actual reasons for things like seat belts, DWI laws, and vaccinations.
Case in point: Kaaron Rogers, when asked, virtue signaled "I am immunized", when in fact he wasn't and hadn't been vaccinated at all. Did that save him? Apparently, not. It's about protection, not "virtue signaling."
The problem is that you are trying to compare drunk driving with being unvaccinated.
But it also shows how you think of the unvaccinated.
You know, one of the doctor here got bloodclots in his leg after spending time with vaccinated person.
Thanks for conceding.Yes. It's probably infuriating to the far right, who now have to decide whether or not they are going to support another recklessly endangering behavior.
Yeah. Cults are kind of an addiction, too. Never thought about that, but you're right.
Thanks for conceding.
I should have been clearer. My apologies. When you are reduced to personal attacks, I just assume that you cannot address the argument.Yeah. Cults are kind of an addiction, too. Never thought about that, but you're right.
When you're right, you're right. You're entirely right that anti-vaccine cults are examples of addiction just as much as alcoholism is. Which is a correspondence I didn't think about.
The point is still pretty good. You might have an addiction to alcohol, but you don't have an addiction to driving a car. One might be caught up in the anti-vaxx cult, but one doesn't have a cult-driven need to go out and endanger others. Or is that part of the cult? Maybe it is.
The Lancet
COVID-19, cults, and the anti-vax movement
Published:March 27, 2021
Lessons from studying cults (which are less pejoratively called new religious movements, describing movements that emerged in the late 20th century) can inform approaches to the anti-vax movement. A cult has come to mean a non-conforming ideology, or a religion that is disliked, with beliefs that are unacceptable to mainstream society. Just as cults are grouped together as sinister, bad, or wrong, the discourse surrounding anti-vaxxers in both academic and popular circles can be dismissive and derogatory. The pejorative label and negative attitudes towards cults promote an us-and-them viewpoint, creating martyrs
and extending the length of time that members hold the new beliefs, thus encouraging further involvement in the movement and radicalisation.
Learning from these consequences, a more constructive perspective could view the anti-vax movement as a religious phenomenon, involving a whole spectrum of ideas, and focus on the essential need to understand the beliefs that are involved to avoid further marginalisation. Hence, implying that anti-vaxxers are beyond the reach of community engagement activities could result in increased anti-vax activities. We suggest a more inclusive approach, where the same inquisitive dialogue and contextual understanding that was suggested for vaccine hesitancy should be extended to members of the anti-vax movement.
The problem is that you are trying to compare drunk driving with being unvaccinated. That is a false dichotomy. But it also shows how you think of the unvaccinated.
Personal choice is crucial to our self-identity, but we are and always have been social creatures and we have a certain amount of concern we owe to our fellow people to ensure we don't harm them and that we all can live safer and happier lives.
Personal choice is crucial to our self-identity, but we are and always have been social creatures and we have a certain amount of concern we owe to our fellow people to ensure we don't harm them and that we all can live safer and happier lives.
It is, actually. Every time a drunk gets behind a wheel, he is acting illegally and could put multiple people in danger. Not getting acclimated puts no one in danger. It’s the equivalent of not driving drunk. Could that person still cause an accident? Of course. But it’s not illegal, and generally not unsafe.It is not a completely unfair comparison.
Have you heard about the vaccinated people who have died of Covid?This is heartbreaking...
California police officer dies of Covid while on leave for missing vaccination deadline
A San Francisco police officer who was on leave for missing the city's Covid vaccination deadline has died after testing positive for the coronavirus, a police union representative and the officer's wife said.
Officer Jack Nyce was a 17-year veteran of the force, the police department said in a statement on its Facebook page announcing his death.
Nyce served in a variety of assignments throughout his career, the statement said, adding that he is survived by many friends, co-workers and family members who "will miss him dearly."
Chief Bill Scott confirmed to NBC News in an email Friday that Nyce, whom he described as a "widely respected colleague," died Saturday. He said Nyce was 47.
California police officer dies of Covid while on leave for missing vaccination deadline
Have you heard about the vaccinated people who have died of Covid?
Is that a yes?I've heard of sober drivers who made errors and ended up dead, but drunk drivers do that a lot more often. And they often kill others in the process. This guy went against the odds and the odds won. Hopefully, he didn't infect anyone else thereby.
It is, actually. Every time a drunk gets behind a wheel, he is acting illegally
and could put multiple people in danger.
Not getting acclimated puts no one in danger.
It’s the equivalent of not driving drunk.
Could that person still cause an accident? Of course. But it’s not illegal, and generally not unsafe.
Is that a yes?
And often an unvaccinated person, going out where he could infect others, is acting illegally.
So your answer to my question is to ignore the question? That’s quite telling.I've heard of sober drivers who made errors and ended up dead, but drunk drivers do that a lot more often. And they often kill others in the process. This guy went against the odds and the odds won. Hopefully, he didn't infect anyone else thereby.
That's an acknowledgement of the fact that going unvaccinated and untested in public is the equivalent of driving drunk on public roads.
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Is that a yes?
So your answer to my question is to ignore the question?
That’s quite telling.
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