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jimmyjimmy

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No. Why do you measure greatness by what a person does for humanity? Is not greatness measured by what one does for God or to glorify God?

How else do you serve God than by serving your fellow man? God has no needs.

“God does not need your good works, but your neighbor does.” - Martin Luther
 
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Did Isaac Newton matter more than Hitler? Could we not attribute more value to mankind to Newton than Hitler?

Did William Shakespeare matter more than Justin Bieber ever will? Socrates more than Snoop Dog? Abraham Lincoln more than Al Sharpton?

Is it true that some lives matter more than others? Would you trade the life Jonas Salk (cured polio) for that of Kim Kardashian?

How about serial killers like Ted Bundy? Does your life matter more than his?

Do Some Lives Matter More Than Others?

NOT according to Christ, He died for ALL lives, the ONLY thing that REALLY matters is whether those lives turn to and accept HIM and His free gift.
 
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NOT according to Christ, He died for ALL lives, the ONLY thing that REALLY matters is whether those lives turn to and accept HIM and His free gift.

If that is truly the ONLY thing that matters, you could probably find a dozen biblical texts to support it.
 
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If that is truly the ONLY thing that matters, you could probably find a dozen biblical texts to support it.

In the long run, where you spend eternity, IS the ONLY thing that ultimately matters.
 
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Not sure what you asking, now.
When you mentioned some famous peoples, are you asking do they matter to us personally?
Or are you asking do they matter to God?

Or are you asking something else. What are you really wanting to know? This is a christian forum, so you going to get scripture and people thinking in terms of what God thinks matters.
 
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All those famous people you mentioned in your first post dont matter to me personally, so no I dont rate one more than the other.

3V3N More telling(eye opening, unshakeable truth) is this
>> what God says about them and all mankind's "GRAND" things/achievements/famous exalted people >>
Luke 16:15 - Bible Gateway
https://www.biblegateway.com/.../Luke 16:15
BibleGateway.com
For what is exalted among men is an abomination in the sight of God. ... What society sees and calls monumental, God sees through and calls monstrous.
 
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Did Isaac Newton matter more than Hitler? Could we not attribute more value to mankind to Newton than Hitler?

Did William Shakespeare matter more than Justin Bieber ever will? Socrates more than Snoop Dog? Abraham Lincoln more than Al Sharpton?

Is it true that some lives matter more than others? Would you trade the life Jonas Salk (cured polio) for that of Kim Kardashian?

How about serial killers like Ted Bundy? Does your life matter more than his?

Do Some Lives Matter More Than Others?
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So why did you say the bolded above?

Because this is not a question which can be answered easily.

All men may be created in God's image, but at some point in life all men make choices which influence the value consideration their lives may have in regard to the world around them.

I have been in situations where my life, and the lives of those around me, were at considerable risk. During those moments this question was moot.

If I were in a situation where the lives of two strangers were in imminent danger and I only had time to save one, this question would also be moot. You save the one you think you can most readily save.

If in a situation where the choice was between a family member and a stranger, then the stranger is going to die. Whether that renders me a bad person is a question for philosophers.

If in a situation where the choice is between a perfect stranger and Kim Kardashian, then Kim Kardashian is going to die. The world knows what to expect from Kim Kardashian. The stranger may go on to perform some act of actual worth.

None of this means we are all not equally important to God. It simply means there are occasions when that consideration can become irrelevant. I didn't make the world that way, it is just the way it is.
 
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Did Isaac Newton matter more than Hitler? Could we not attribute more value to mankind to Newton than Hitler?

Did William Shakespeare matter more than Justin Bieber ever will? Socrates more than Snoop Dog? Abraham Lincoln more than Al Sharpton?

Is it true that some lives matter more than others? Would you trade the life Jonas Salk (cured polio) for that of Kim Kardashian?

How about serial killers like Ted Bundy? Does your life matter more than his?

Do Some Lives Matter More Than Others?

To God; ALL human lives matter the same except One.
Jesus was the only "human" life that matters to God more than any other.
To humans; The lives of Martin Luther, Isaac Newton, and most others matter more than Hitler. Most humans do not see nuclear technology or the reestablishment of the Israeli nation as the direct results of Hitler's life.

William Shakespeare affects humanity far more than Justin Bieber at this time but Mr. Bieber comes too near the end to impact humanity much. Socrates impacted humanity more than Snoop Dog, who comes too near the end of humanity to matter much. Abraham Lincoln impacted "black" lives for humanity far more than Rev. Al Sharpton ever will due to living too near the end of humanity.
 
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To God, everyone's lives matter. We are all his creation.
Yes correct

True, however, if you were in a position where you HAD to choose. a child over an Adult. I would always choose the child.
The Adult has lived their life.

And any Parent that loves their child would give up their lives if placed in that situation.
 
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Did Isaac Newton matter more than Hitler? Could we not attribute more value to mankind to Newton than Hitler?

Did William Shakespeare matter more than Justin Bieber ever will? Socrates more than Snoop Dog? Abraham Lincoln more than Al Sharpton?

Is it true that some lives matter more than others? Would you trade the life Jonas Salk (cured polio) for that of Kim Kardashian?

How about serial killers like Ted Bundy? Does your life matter more than his?

Do Some Lives Matter More Than Others?
Yes, there is one life that mattered more than all of humanity: Jesus Christ. His life is the only one that could redeem mankind.
 
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the answer to that is simple...
Do you believe that ALL mankind is made in the image and likeness of the One who created us?

The answer to that will tell you whether or not all lives matter.


The Old Testament phrase; 'made in God's image' is used to contrast the Israelites from their pagan neighbor nations. It was understood to be the religious buffer between them. The pagans worshipped the creation and many believed that humans were created by the god-like human-animal hybrids. This was considered idolatry by the Israelites. They were taught that humans were created by a deity that transcends creation.....not that humans are above creation themselves.
 
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BLM doesn't mean someone's life matters more.. All they're saying and wanting I equality..

I have yet to see an officer murder a white person in Cold blood and receive paid leave..time and time and time again.

Nor have i seen the media play a white person being slain by the police over and over ... To desensitize people to their deaths..

Here you go:

 
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BINGO! Thank you!

This precisely why some lives matter more than others.

God does not appear to think necessarily so. Being in great service to others does not save, and even those who are saved and of great service to others aren't particularly protected by God (e.g. Jozef De Veuster, St Damien). If their lives mattered in service, God would make sure they lived long in service.

But He doesn't.
 
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the answer to that is simple...
Do you believe that ALL mankind is made in the image and likeness of the One who created us?

The answer to that will tell you whether or not all lives matter.


The Old Testament phrase; 'made in God's image' is used to contrast the Israelites from their pagan neighbor nations. It was understood to be the religious buffer between them. The pagans worshipped the creation and many believed that humans were created by the god-like human-animal hybrids. This was considered idolatry by the Israelites. They were taught that humans were created by a deity that transcends creation.....not that humans are above creation themselves.


Ok...were Adam and Eve made in the image and likeness of God?


According to the Israelite 'creation story' they were. It was to be a discouragement towards idolatry for them.

It is a mistake to take the 'image' to make us somehow better than the rest of the animal kingdom. What does raise the value of a human is their taking advantage of the Son's offer to be restored to what was intended beforehand.

 
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