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[jimmyjimmy]

Paranoid? Do you wear a seat belt? Do you have a fire extinguisher? My ability and desire to defend myself against an attacker is only different in that one of our lives may end. That is a serious distinction indeed but I am unwilling to leave my wife and son without my support without taking some sort of preventive action.

If you wish to sacrifice your life for that of a killer, that is your prerogative. It simply means that you place more value on that person's life than your own. Hence, pragmatically, both lives are not equal.

There are huge misunderstandings on this subject.

There is a night and day difference between being persecuted as a Christian and a perp. breaking into your house.

I have a 9mm for the latter, and two cheeks for the former.

 

[RedPonyDriver]

Paranoid? Do you wear a seat belt? Do you have a fire extinguisher? My ability and desire to defend myself against an attacker is only different in that one of our lives may end. That is a serious distinction indeed but I am unwilling to leave my wife and son without my support without taking some sort of preventive action.

If you wish to sacrifice your life for that of a killer, that is your prerogative. It simply means that you place more value on that person's life than your own. Hence, pragmatically, both lives are not equal.

What does one have to do with the other...why so selfish? Don't you trust that God would care for your wife and son?

Isn't there something in scripture about saving and losing lives? I don't own a gun, have never been attacked and have no fear whatsoever...why do you? And...I don't live in "safe suburbia" either...

 

[jimmyjimmy]

No, Moses' life was no more valuable than that of a "crackhead". (Which is not even a label I would use, and only I write it here to quote you)

Perhaps you have forgotten that Moses was a murderer? Or that he repeatedly pleaded with God to send someone else because he didn't want to be the one to speak to Pharaoh on behalf of his people.

What do you think makes one person's life more valuable than another's. And why do you think it is your right to make such a judgement? (If that is indeed what you're inferring by asking such a question)

Wow! Just W O W.

 

[RedPonyDriver]

There are huge misunderstandings on this subject.

There is a night and day difference between being persecuted as a Christian and a perp. breaking into your house.

I have a 9mm for the latter, and two cheeks for the former.

And you've been attacked before? You've had your home broken in before? If you live in a half decent neighborhood and have never been a victim of violence, I'd have to say you're paranoid and another one who would rather save his own life than lose it in the chance that it would advance the Kingdom of God through another sinner...

 

[amariselle]

Nobody wants to answer the question...
Are ALL people made in the image and likeness of their Creator?

Yes, exactly.

We are ALL made in the image of God.

 

[Mudinyeri]

What does one have to do with the other...why so selfish? Don't you trust that God would care for your wife and son?

Isn't there something in scripture about saving and losing lives? I don't own a gun, have never been attacked and have no fear whatsoever...why do you? And...I don't live in "safe suburbia" either...

As @thatbrian said, you're confusing the purpose of losing one's life and turning the other cheek.

I trust that God has put me on this earth and given me the ability to defend myself and my family for a reason.

It's easy to walk around in condition white (no fear) if you haven't been attacked. I made my living carrying a gun and being attacked for several years. I've seen the victims of attacks. I've seen dismembered bodies. I've seen it all. I know, all too well, what might happen next to my wife and son if I don't defend them and myself. And ... I wouldn't call it "fear." I would simply call it being wise and cautious.

 

[amariselle]

Why so paranoid? If I die, I know where I'm going. If I kill the other, then I am sending him/her to a place of no redemption. I'd rather lose my life to give someone a chance at redemption than take a life and seal their fate.

Not to mention the Jesus clearly says those who live by the sword will die by it.

 

[jimmyjimmy]

Yes, exactly.

We are ALL made in the image of God.

No one has disagreed with that. That's a different question.

 

[amariselle]

Wow! Just W O W.

Are you going to answer the question or not?

Who are you to judge the value of another human being's life?

 

[jimmyjimmy]

As @thatbrian said, you're confusing the purpose of losing one's life and turning the other cheek.

I trust that God has put me on this earth and given me the ability to defend myself and my family for a reason.

It's easy to walk around in condition white (no fear) if you haven't been attacked. I made my living carrying a gun and being attacked for several years. I've seen the victims of attacks. I've seen dismembered bodies. I've seen it all. I know, all too well, what might happen next to my wife and son if I don't defend them and myself. And ... I wouldn't call it "fear." I would simply call it being wise and cautious.

I don't think you read my post.

 

[jimmyjimmy]

Are you going to answer the question or not?

Who are you to judge the value of another human beings life?

It's very easy to judge the value of a man in regard to mankind. We all do it.

 

[Mudinyeri]

Not to mention the Jesus clearly says those who live by the sword will die by it.

I expected to "die by the sword" decades ago. Apparently, God wanted to keep me around. So ... I'm going to do everything I can to stick around.

 

[Mudinyeri]

I don't think you read my post.

I did ... the one about the 9mm.

 

[amariselle]

No one has disagreed with that. That's a different question.

No, actually it isn't. It is God Who has given each person intrinsic value and worth.

 

[amariselle]

I expected to "die by the sword" decades ago. Apparently, God wanted to keep me around. So ... I'm going to do everything I can to stick around.

Yes, only God knows the number of our days. But this life will not last forever, no matter who we are.

 

[amariselle]

It's very easy to judge the value of a man in regard to mankind. We all do it.

That wasn't the question. The question was what gives you the right to judge the value of another person's life?

Of course we all make comparisons, we have all looked down our noses at someone else, the problem is that doing so is wrong.

Why would you think that Moses' life was more valuable than the life of a "crackhead"? (Which again, is the label you chose to use)

 

[jimmyjimmy]

That wasn't the question. The question was what gives you the right to judge the value of another person's life?

Of course we all make comparisons, we have all looked down our noses at someone else, the problem is that doing so is wrong.

Why would you think that Moses' life was more valuable than the life of a "crackhead". (Which again, is the label you chose to use)

Did you mourn the death of Princess Diana, even though you don't know her? How about Mother Theresa?

 

[jimmyjimmy]

Why would you think that Moses' life was more valuable than the life of a "crackhead"? (Which again, is the label you chose to use)

If you can't see that, I'll never be ale to help you see it. I can't even fathom how you could ask such a question.

 

[RedPonyDriver]

Did you mourn the death of the junkie that died of an overdose? Did you mourn the death of the homeless "bum"?

 

[amariselle]

Did you mourn the death of Princess Diana, even though you don't know her? How about Mother Theresa?

Absolutely. But do I think their lives were more valuable than that of a "crackhead"?

Absolutely not.

And if you know anything about Mother Teresa or Princess Diana, you know that they didn't think their lives were more valuable than anyone else's either.