77 Years

[Barraco]

I was studying the duration of the independent reign of the Hasmoneans today and noticed they ruled 77 years before the Romans conquered Jerusalem and made Judea a puppet state (140-63 BC). I also noticed that 77 years from the time Israel was restored in 1948 is 2025. With Israel going to war with Hamas and perhaps the entire region, do you see any significance to this?

 

[Matt5]

I do not see anything significant about 77 years. However, I do know that once a country hits around 70 years of relative stability, then the wheels start falling off the cart. It takes around 70 years for an accumulation of problems to build up to a crisis point. Now big things are possible: revolution, civil war, depression and/or big war.

In the case of Israel today, it looks like the war with Hamas will be a game-changer.

Notice that WW1 and WW2 pretty much reset the entire world. We are now at 78 years of relative stability. That means the world as we know it is about to change.

I'm including ideas from "The Fourth Turning." Although the focus of the book is America, I believe the general concepts apply to all countries.

An article about the latest book, "The Fourth Turning is Here", is below.

‘The Fourth Turning Is Here’ and ‘End Times’ - WSJ

https://archive.ph/axKfI

 

[tranquil]

I was studying the duration of the independent reign of the Hasmoneans today and noticed they ruled 77 years before the Romans conquered Jerusalem and made Judea a puppet state (140-63 BC). I also noticed that 77 years from the time Israel was restored in 1948 is 2025. With Israel going to war with Hamas and perhaps the entire region, do you see any significance to this?

Yes, it has potential to be significant as Daniel 9:24 can be read as '70 7' to anoint the most holy (as opposed to 70 'weeks'). March 15, 2025 would be the 2521st day after the 70 year marker on April 20, 2018 (which is 5 Iyyar, 5778 - 70 years after 5 Iyyar May 14, 1948 on the solar calendar).

March 15, 2025 is 15 Adar, 5 months after 15 tishri / Oct 17, 2024.

If Oct 14, 2023 was the delayed start of the 'day' of the Lord's wrath (meaning one year) then the analog day next year would be through Halloween 2024. (Oct 17, 2024 would be the day the faithful are 'sheltered' from the great trib that is beginning on Feast of Tabernacles (which is when God 'sheltered' the Israelites). (In other words, March 15th, 2025 would potentially start the 6th Trumpet.)

 

[Barraco]

Yes, it has potential to be significant as Daniel 9:24 can be read as '70 7' to anoint the most holy (as opposed to 70 'weeks'). March 15, 2025 would be the 2521st day after the 70 year marker on April 20, 2018 (which is 5 Iyyar, 5778 - 70 years after 5 Iyyar May 14, 1948 on the solar calendar).

March 15, 2025 is 15 Adar, 5 months after 15 tishri / Oct 17, 2024.

If Oct 14, 2023 was the delayed start of the 'day' of the Lord's wrath (meaning one year) then the analog day next year would be through Halloween 2024. (Oct 17, 2024 would be the day the faithful are 'sheltered' from the great trib that is beginning on Feast of Tabernacles (which is when God 'sheltered' the Israelites). (In other words, March 15th, 2025 would potentially start the 6th Trumpet.)

Interesting! What do you mean delayed start of the day of the Lord's wrath? Where does that come from?

 

[tranquil]

Interesting! What do you mean delayed start of the day of the Lord's wrath? Where does that come from?

I would recommend reading this short post I made about the Feast of Tabernacles being the start of the great tribulation, ie Trumpets.

Sukkot and Shushan Purim

Because some forum members think that the idea of the great tribulation beginning on the Feast of Tabernacles is strange, I thought I would put this post up. Does the Bible give clues as to the timing of the events of Revelation? Once we look at the timing of the 6th Seal, then hopefully the...

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As I posted there, there are many scholars that hold this view! Please read my post, I quoted many.

Feast of Tabernacles is a week long and then there is a 'half hour of silence' then the damage starts being done (Revelation 8:1). Because 1 day = 1 year, and 1 day = 24 hours, thus 54 weeks/ 24 hours = 2.25 weeks for an hour and roughly 1 week for half an hour.

Thus, 1 week long delay during the Feast itself, plus the week of 'silence' equals roughly 2 weeks delay after the start of Feast of Tabernacles.

Because of how the events of Revelation are written, this seems to be the only solution left that can happen. Basically, the trick of prophecy is such that there are 2 abominations: 1 at the start of the 6th Trumpet, and the 2nd one at the 7th Trumpet. Each one lies at one end of the 1290 days of Dan 12:11-13: at the start of the 1290 days and at the end of the 1290 days. That's why it is written as it is.

 

[tranquil]

Interesting! What do you mean delayed start of the day of the Lord's wrath? Where does that come from?

Also, I forgot to mention that Hebrew originally had no punctuation marks, so when Dan 9:24 says, '70 weeks' it is actually saying '
שִׁבְעִים שִׁבְעִים
minus the punctuation marks of course. In other words, it is the exact same word repeated which can be understood to be 70 7.
When Dan 9:26 uses 'weeks' it is a different word for 'weeks' than is used in Dan 9:24 for 'weeks'.

 

[Barraco]

Also, I forgot to mention that Hebrew originally had no punctuation marks, so when Dan 9:24 says, '70 weeks' it is actually saying '
שִׁבְעִים שִׁבְעִים
minus the punctuation marks of course. In other words, it is the exact same word repeated which can be understood to be 70 7.
When Dan 9:26 uses 'weeks' it is a different word for 'weeks' than is used in Dan 9:24 for 'weeks'.

I also read that the kibbutz that was attacked was established 77 years ago.