7 Day creation- literal or figurative?

[Justatruthseeker]

Why would Adam have had to spend untold years watching the animals mate before he figured out there was no one for him? He wasn't stupid. After He named a few of them, he would have picked up on the fact they each had a partner and he had none. All he had to do was look around, it was pretty obvious.

Because that's not what your Bible says he did that's why. I think that would be pretty obvious too, apparently not.

Genesis 2:20 "Adam gave names to all cattle, and to the fowl of the air, and to every beast of the field; but for Adam there was not found an help meet for him."

So he named every single cattle, all the birds and every beast before a helper was created for him. Now you may if you wish believe this happened in a few hours, just don't ask me to believe that.

So we agree some people have a form of godliness but not really and these we should avoid, like those that ignore what scripture says.

Now scripture tells me he named them all, every single one of them. So if you think that took a mere couple of hours, well, as I said you are welcome to your belief.

 

[Kenneth Redden]

Since you insist that each of God's Days is a thousand years long, WHEN do you think Eve was made? Hint: on the 6th Day AFTER the beasts of the earth and birds. Do you think Eve hasn't been made yet?

I did not say that each of God's Days is a thousand years long, I said that the sixth day will be one day, one-thousand years long. However; the fifth day will be a thousand years, as one day.

 

[Kenneth Redden]

That's to God and in His realm. In this world He set certain things in motion to give us time, the rotation of the earth, sun, moon--- He set that time at 24 hr days.
Gen 1:14 And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years:
Time means nothing to God. But He ordained times for us on this world.

Oh but I disagree, time is very important to God. Yes, in "due time," time is important to God. Deuteronomy 32:35, Romans 5:6; 1 Corinthians 15:8, 1 Timothy 2:6 & 1 Peter 5:6.

 

[mmksparbud]

Because that's not what your Bible says he did that's why. I think that would be pretty obvious too, apparently not.

Genesis 2:20 "Adam gave names to all cattle, and to the fowl of the air, and to every beast of the field; but for Adam there was not found an help meet for him."

So he named every single cattle, all the birds and every beast before a helper was created for him. Now you may if you wish believe this happened in a few hours, just don't ask me to believe that.

So we agree some people have a form of godliness but not really and these we should avoid, like those that ignore what scripture says.

Now scripture tells me he named them all, every single one of them. So if you think that took a mere couple of hours, well, as I said you are welcome to your belief.

And scripture says this:

Gen 2:20 And Adam gave names to all cattle, and to the fowl of the air, and to every beast of the field; but for Adam there was not found an help meet for him.
Gen 2:21 And the LORD God caused a deep sleep to fall upon Adam, and he slept: and he took one of his ribs, and closed up the flesh instead thereof;
Gen 2:22 And the rib, which the LORD God had taken from man, made he a woman, and brought her unto the man.
Gen 2:23 And Adam said, This is now bone of my bones, and flesh of my flesh: she shall be called Woman, because she was taken out of Man.


Gen 1:27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.
Gen 1:31 And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day.

You either believe what it says or not---doesn't matter to me. You want to make up a time frame about all this, go right ahead. Scripture says Adam was created on day 6, it says Adam names all the animals and then God created Eve---and it says it all happened on day 6. You want to believe something the bible doesn't say----you are welcome to your believe.

 

[mmksparbud]

Oh but I disagree, time is very important to God. Yes, in "due time," time is important to God. Deuteronomy 32:35, Romans 5:6; 1 Corinthians 15:8, 1 Timothy 2:6 & 1 Peter 5:6.

Yah!!--That is why He set the sum, moon and stars and the rotation of the earth--it gives us times. He does everything at HIS time. To Him, 1000 years is just one day---to us it is still 1000 years. He knows time---and yes, He sets those times. By it means nothing to Him, I mean that it doesn't pass the same way for Him, but He does everything on time according to His own wristwatch, not ours, but He knows our times also, He set them. If He says He created this world in 7 days, that is exactly what He did.

 

[Kenneth Redden]

Yah!!--That is why He set the sum, moon and stars and the rotation of the earth--it gives us times. He does everything at HIS time. To Him, 1000 years is just one day---to us it is still 1000 years. He knows time---and yes, He sets those times. By it means nothing to Him, I mean that it doesn't pass the same way for Him, but He does everything on time according to His own wristwatch, not ours, but He knows our times also, He set them. If He says He created this world in 7 days, that is exactly what He did.

Don't you think that maybe a day to the Lord may be very different from the twenty-four hour days you and I are use to here on earth? Again I cite 2 Peter 3:8. 2 Peter 3:8 is important because it is speaking to us on the fourth day, about the fifth day and sixth day; which you must first understand, before understanding the days of the Creation.

 

[GenemZ]

Animals were ALL "created" by the Trinity (God). Mankind, on the other hand was "formed" by Jesus/Lord God as a potter molds clay. Gen 2:4-7 In order to be Eternal, mankind MUST be "created" by God the Trinity. Gen 1:27 and John 14:16

IOW, those creatures which are "created" by God the Trinity will be in Heaven with mankind, who has been born again Spiritually, in Christ.

WHATever God "creates" is Eternal, and part of the host of Heaven. Gen 2:1

Aman? What can I tell you? You seem to blank out and can only read parts of the Bible. For, you speak fragmented thoughts.

Genesis 1:27 was God creating 'out from nothing' (bara) man in His image. Male and female souls. Done deal! Both were created in the image of God. Its the soul that passage speaks of.

It was in Genesis 2 that God provided bodies for those souls which the Lord molded and formed (jatsar) from the elements of the soil. The body was not created out from nothing like the soul. Rather, the body was molded and formed out from what had already been created.

Now? ....

If you only had read further in Genesis 2? (Gen 2:19) you would have soon discovered that the Lord also molded and formed bodies for the animals at that time. You blanked out on that factor to try to make your distortion of Scripture work.

” 19 Out of the ground the Lord God formed every beast of the field and every bird of the sky, and brought them to the man to see what he would call them; and whatever the man called a living creature, that was its name.​

Wake up, please.

 

[mmksparbud]

Don't you think that maybe a day to the Lord may be very different from the twenty-four hour days you and I are use to here on earth? Again I cite 2 Peter 3:8. 2 Peter 3:8 is important because it is speaking to us on the fourth day, about the fifth day and sixth day; which you must first understand, before understanding the days of the Creation.

To the Lord, yes. But He created time for us according to the rotation of the earth and the sun and moon and stars.
Gen 1:14 And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years:
And He basis His prophecies on those times He gave us, not on His time. And what God says is. If He says let there be light--there is light--right there and then, not 1000 years later, unless He says, Let there be light in 1000 years. And that should be understood in order to see His truth of creation.

 

[Aman777]

You either believe what it says or not---doesn't matter to me. You want to make up a time frame about all this, go right ahead. Scripture says Adam was created on day 6, it says Adam names all the animals and then God created Eve---and it says it all happened on day 6. You want to believe something the bible doesn't say----you are welcome to your believe.

Amen, but the order is wrong.

Adam names the animals Lord God/Jesus makes from the ground
Gen 3:19 Then, Eve is made Gen 3:22. Adam sins, is cast from the Garden, has Cain an Abel and Cain kills Abel. Next BOTH are "created" or born Eternally, in Christ, Spiritually by God the Trinity. Gen 5:1-2

Adam was "formed" on the 3rd Day Gen 2:4-7 before plants herbs and rain by Lord God
Adam was "created" or born again Spiritually in Christ on the 6th Day by The Trinity (God). Gen 1:26 and Gen 5:1-2

It takes the AGREEMENT of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit to "create" an eternal being.

 

[mmksparbud]

Amen, but the order is wrong.

Adam names the animals Lord God/Jesus makes from the ground
Gen 3:19 Then, Eve is made Gen 3:22. Adam sins, is cast from the Garden, has Cain an Abel and Cain kills Abel. Next BOTH are "created" or born Eternally, in Christ, Spiritually by God the Trinity. Gen 5:1-2

Adam was "formed" on the 3rd Day Gen 2:4-7 before plants herbs and rain by Lord God
Adam was "created" or born again Spiritually in Christ on the 6th Day by The Trinity (God). Gen 1:26 and Gen 5:1-2

It takes the AGREEMENT of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit to "create" an eternal being.

Adam and Eve were created on day 6---period. Wholly and completely. God doesn't do things half way. Cain and Ab el were not born until after the fall. You keep insisting on 2 separate creations--God made one earth, one heavens, one Adam and one Eve. He does not do replicas. Gen 1 and Gen 2 are the same creation week, Gen 2 just fill in details not in Gen 1---you refuse to believe that--that's ok. Doesn't change the facts any.

 

[Aman777]

Aman? What can I tell you? You seem to blank out and can only read parts of the Bible. For, you speak fragmented thoughts.

Genesis 1:27 was God creating 'out from nothing' (bara) man in His image. Male and female souls. Done deal! Both were created in the image of God. Its the soul that passage speaks of.

Amen. You have it absolutely correct since when God (Elohim-Trinity) creates, it is always an Eternal Creation. When Lord God (YHWH/Jesus) forms, shapes, or makes, it's a temporary creation subject to death.

*** It was in Genesis 2 that God provided bodies for those souls which the Lord molded and formed (jatsar) from the elements of the soil. The body was not created out from nothing like the soul. Rather, the body was molded and formed out from what had already been created.

Amen. Genesis chapter 1 is the entire history and perfect OUTLINE of ALL of the rest of the Bible. Gen 2:4-7 are the DETAILS of the OUTLINE of Gen 1:8.

*** Now? ....

If you only had read further in Genesis 2? (Gen 2:19) you would have soon discovered that the Lord also molded and formed bodies for the animals at that time. You blanked out on that factor to try to make your distortion of Scripture work.

” 19 Out of the ground the Lord God formed every beast of the field and every bird of the sky, and brought them to the man to see what he would call them; and whatever the man called a living creature, that was its name.​

Wake up, please.

You skipped Day 5 when God (Trinity) created and brought forth EVERY living creature that moveth from WATER. Gen 1:21

Would you like to know WHY Lord God made the common ancestors from the dust of the ground at the beginning of the present 6th Day?

 

[mmksparbud]

Amen. You have it absolutely correct since when God (Elohim-Trinity) creates, it is always an Eternal Creation. When Lord God (YHWH/Jesus) forms, shapes, or makes, it's a temporary creation subject to death.

*** It was in Genesis 2 that God provided bodies for those souls which the Lord molded and formed (jatsar) from the elements of the soil. The body was not created out from nothing like the soul. Rather, the body was molded and formed out from what had already been created.

Amen. Genesis chapter 1 is the entire history and perfect OUTLINE of ALL of the rest of the Bible. Gen 2:4-7 are the DETAILS of the OUTLINE of Gen 1:8.

*** Now? ....

If you only had read further in Genesis 2? (Gen 2:19) you would have soon discovered that the Lord also molded and formed bodies for the animals at that time. You blanked out on that factor to try to make your distortion of Scripture work.

” 19 Out of the ground the Lord God formed every beast of the field and every bird of the sky, and brought them to the man to see what he would call them; and whatever the man called a living creature, that was its name.​

Wake up, please.

You skipped Day 5 when God (Trinity) created and brought forth EVERY living creature that moveth from WATER. Gen 1:21

Would you like to know WHY Lord God made the common ancestors from the dust of the ground at the beginning of the present 6th Day?

NO!--You already gave me your theories--they are not scriptural and I do not buy them, thank you.

 

[Riberra]

Adam and Eve were created on day 6---period. Wholly and completely. God doesn't do things half way. Cain and Ab el were not born until after the fall. You keep insisting on 2 separate creations--God made one earth, one heavens, one Adam and one Eve. He does not do replicas. Gen 1 and Gen 2 are the same creation week, Gen 2 just fill in details not in Gen 1---you refuse to believe that--that's ok. Doesn't change the facts any.

Here a verse talking about a destruction of the surface of the earth before that humans were created .

Jer 4:23 I beheld the earth, and, lo, it was without form, and void; and the heavens, and they had no light.
Jer 4:24 I beheld the mountains, and, lo, they trembled, and all the hills moved lightly.
Jer 4:25 I beheld, and, lo, there was no man, and all the birds of the heavens were fled.
Jer 4:26 I beheld, and, lo, the fruitful place was a wilderness, and all the cities thereof were broken down at the presence of the LORD, and by his fierce anger.
Jer 4:27 For thus hath the LORD said, The whole land shall be desolate; yet will I not make a full end.
Jer 4:28 For this shall the earth mourn, and the heavens above be black: because I have spoken it, I have purposed it, and will not repent, neither will I turn back from it.

We know that this is not talking of Noah's flood which we know 8 humans were saved....

God tell Job that when the Earth was created the angels shouted of joy...

We know that the angels were created long before the creation of the first humans.....

Jeremiah give us a hint that there was a luxuriant Earth Age who was destroyed before humans were created ...

http://worldeventsandthebible.com/2009/11/world-that-then-was-first-earth-age.html

 

[mmksparbud]

Here a verse talking about a destruction of the surface of the earth before that humans were created .

Jer 4:23 I beheld the earth, and, lo, it was without form, and void; and the heavens, and they had no light.
Jer 4:24 I beheld the mountains, and, lo, they trembled, and all the hills moved lightly.
Jer 4:25 I beheld, and, lo, there was no man, and all the birds of the heavens were fled.
Jer 4:26 I beheld, and, lo, the fruitful place was a wilderness, and all the cities thereof were broken down at the presence of the LORD, and by his fierce anger.
Jer 4:27 For thus hath the LORD said, The whole land shall be desolate; yet will I not make a full end.
Jer 4:28 For this shall the earth mourn, and the heavens above be black: because I have spoken it, I have purposed it, and will not repent, neither will I turn back from it.

We know that this is not talking of Noah's flood which we know 8 humans were saved....

God tell Job that when the Earth was created the angels shouted of joy...

We know that the angels were created long before the creation of the first humans.....

There was an Earth Age before humans were created ...

http://worldeventsandthebible.com/2009/11/world-that-then-was-first-earth-age.html

No---this is prophetic, It is what the earth will look like during the 1000 years--after Jesus comes back for the saved, the wicked are destroyed at His coming, the earth and heavens are destroyed
2Pe_3:10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.
2Pe_3:12 Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat?

 

[Riberra]

No---this is prophetic, It is what the earth will look like during the 1000 years--after Jesus comes back for the saved, the wicked are destroyed at His coming, the earth and heavens are destroyed

Revelation 19:15 tell us that Jesus will run the nations of the Earth with a rod of iron...That mean that the Earth surface will be melted only after His millennium Reign on the Earth as mentioned in Revelation 21 which occurs after the Great White Throne Judgement.
-A New Earth [surface] WITHOUT SEA.- Revelation 21:1

2Pe_3:10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.
2Pe_3:12 Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat?

 

[Kenneth Redden]

Adam and Eve were created on day 6---period. Wholly and completely. God doesn't do things half way. Cain and Ab el were not born until after the fall. You keep insisting on 2 separate creations--God made one earth, one heavens, one Adam and one Eve. He does not do replicas. Gen 1 and Gen 2 are the same creation week, Gen 2 just fill in details not in Gen 1---you refuse to believe that--that's ok. Doesn't change the facts any.

Adam and Eve were created from the beginning, from everlasting, "in the day that the LORD God made the earth and the heavens." Genesis 2:4. One of the ways I know this is because Melchisedec, king of Salem, priest of the most high God, is a man and is he is from everlasting. And what about Christ?
He is a man and he is from everlasting.
The fact of the matter is that nowhere in the Bible is man said to have been created on the sixth day. Genesis 1:26 tells us that man was made on the sixth day, but Genesis 1:27 does not say when he was created.

 

[mmksparbud]

Adam and Eve were created from the beginning, from everlasting. One of the ways I know this is because Melchisedec, king of Salem, priest of the most high God, is a man and is he is from everlasting. And what about Christ?
He is a man and he is from everlasting.
The fact of the matter is that nowhere in the Bible is man said to have been created on the sixth day. Genesis 1:26 tells us that man was made on the sixth day, but Genesis 1:27 does not say when he was created.

Gen 2:7 And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.
Genesis 2:7
and Yhwh the Elohiym molded the human of powder from the ground and he exhaled in his nostrils a breath of life and the human existed for a living being
http://www.mechanical-translation.org/mt/translation2.html

 

[Riberra]

Gen 2:7 And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.
Genesis 2:7
and Yhwh the Elohiym molded the human of powder from the ground and he exhaled in his nostrils a breath of life and the human existed for a living being
http://www.mechanical-translation.org/mt/translation2.html

Genesis 2 tell us that ADAM was formed after the 7 Th Day of rest and placed in the Garden of Eden....thus AFTER the humans [MANKIND] who were created by God in Day 6 after the ANIMAL KIND Genesis 1:24-26,31

Genesis 2
2 Thus the heavens and the earth were finished, and all the host of them.

2 And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made; and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had made.

3 And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because that in it he had rested from all his work which God created and made.

4 These are the generations of the heavens and of the earth when they were created, in the day that the LORD God made the earth and the heavens, 5 And every plant of the field before it was in the earth, and every herb of the field before it grew: for the LORD God had not caused it to rain upon the earth, and there was not a man to till the ground.
6 But there went up a mist from the earth, and watered the whole face of the ground.

7 And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.

8 And the LORD God planted a garden eastward in Eden; and there he put the man whom he had formed.

 

[mmksparbud]

Adam was formed on day 6 same day as the land animals--Adam means human

Genesis 2:7
and Yhwh the Elohiym molded the human of powder from the ground and he exhaled in his nostrils a breath of life and the human existed for a living being,

Gen 1:24 And God said, Let the earth bring forth the living creature after his kind, cattle, and creeping thing, and beast of the earth after his kind: and it was so.
Gen 1:25 And God made the beast of the earth after his kind, and cattle after their kind, and every thing that creepeth upon the earth after his kind: and God saw that it was good.
Gen 1:26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.
Gen 1:27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.
Gen 1:28 And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.
Gen 1:29 And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat.
Gen 1:30 And to every beast of the earth, and to every fowl of the air, and to every thing that creepeth upon the earth, wherein there is life, I have given every green herb for meat: and it was so.
Gen 1:31 And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day.

Gen 1 is chronological order of creation week, Gen 2 goes back and fills in details. They are not separate creations.

 

[Riberra]

Adam was formed on day 6 same day as the land animals--Adam means human


Gen 1 is chronological order of creation week, Gen 2 goes back and fills in details. They are not separate creations.

Complementary creation would fit better than separate creation.

In Genesis 1 THE ANIMALS were created BEFORE the Humans .

In Genesis 2 ADAM was created BEFORE the animals and EVE was created after the Animals.


In Genesis 1 God made this command to the Humans he just Created on the 6 TH day.
[Genesis 1:28]
God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.

In Genesis 2 God made this command to ADAM

Genesis 2:15
15 And the LORD God took the man, and put him into the garden of Eden to dress it and to keep it.