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That intricate weaving includes the connections of the neurons and the chemical makeup in your brain. It has to. Every male human being has been uniquely fashioned by God.
And finding a wife is a worthy endeavor worth pursuing.
I don't believe this.Got any Scripture to back these statements up?
Nobody says it's "his" fault. You people really cannot seem to use logic or comprehend stuff. If you have a problem you have to solve it and pray to God at the same time. That means you have to put in the effort to change some aspects of you in order for God to work with you. God won't magically make you super attractive, clean and a billionaire. The mass keeps making a mistake, thinking God is this magician and will just make things happen. God works in his own ways and not the ways we think. And if @DragonFox91 isn't willing to fix the part of himself, to break that barrier, to go out and meet women so he can finally find a spouse, then he will remain single for the rest of his life.Dont worry @DragonFox91, I am sure the guys who dont get it are probably chads/chadlites who have it easier and have the luxury of saying its your fault and you are not powerless. Image the nerve for people to say its your fault. Dont worry, Jesus understands and knows our troubles. Keep faith.
The second part of the Proverbs verse is key "obtains favor from the Lord." A man who pursues a wife is pursuing the Lord's favor and will be blessed. Now he may not get what he is seeking, but he will get something - insight, learning, perhaps a friend.How does that prove that some men are not powerless to obtain women?
Psalm 84:11 said:For the Lord God is a sun and shield;
he bestows favor and honor.
No good thing does the Lord withhold
from those who walk uprightly.
Psalm 30:5 said:For his anger is but for a moment;
his favor is for a lifetime.
Weeping may linger for the night,
but joy comes with the morning.
Proverbs 8:34-36 said:Happy is the one who listens to me,
watching daily at my [wisdom's] gates,
waiting beside my doors.
For whoever finds me [wisdom] finds life
and obtains favor from the Lord,
36 but those who miss me injure themselves;
all who hate me love death.”
James 1:5 said:If any of you is lacking in wisdom, ask God, who gives to all generously and ungrudgingly, and it will be given you.
That verse has nothing to do with demons. Becoming "one flesh" is what happens when you have bodily relations with someone, regardless of who they are.1 Cor 6:16.
1 Corinthians 6:16 said:16 Do you not know that whoever is united to a prostitute becomes one body with her? For it is said, “The two shall be one flesh.”
Genesis 2:23-24 said:23 Then the man said,
“At last this is bone of my bones,
And flesh of my flesh;
She shall be called ‘woman,’
Because she was taken out of man.”
24 For this reason a man shall leave his father and his mother, and be joined to his wife; and they shall become one flesh.
Mark 10:7-9 said:7 ‘For this reason a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife, 8 and the two shall become one flesh.’ So they are no longer two but one flesh. 9 Therefore what God has joined together, let no one separate.”
If you have a problem you have to solve it and pray to God at the same time. That means you have to put in the effort to change some aspects of you in order for God to work with you. God won't magically make you super attractive, clean and a billionaire. The mass keeps making a mistake, thinking God is this magician and will just make things happen. God works in his own ways and not the ways we think. And if @DragonFox91 isn't willing to fix the part of himself, to break that barrier, to go out and meet women so he can finally find a spouse, then he will remain single for the rest of his life.
The second part of the Proverbs verse is key "obtains favor from the Lord." A man who pursues a wife is pursuing the Lord's favor and will be blessed. Now he may not get what he is seeking, but he will get something - insight, learning, perhaps a friend.
When the Lord backs you up, you are never powerless, and pursuing the Lord's favor is never a futile pursuit.
That verse has nothing to do with demons. Becoming "one flesh" is what happens when you have bodily relations with someone, regardless of who they are.
That quote is from Genesis.
The context of this quote suggests that, before the man and women were separated, one all-sufficient man existed that embodied the whole of humanity, that something was "taken out" of Adam to make Eve. Thus, when the man and the woman are put back together during sex, the unity of the original man is restored, and the two become one being. (This is not just my opinion, it's that of John Paul II in Men and Women He Created Them, a book I have been reading recently.)
However, 1 Corinthians 7 is still true, and I am still one whole human being apart from a husband, because I am a member of Christ's Bride, which is the eternal union/marriage. As a part of that union, I am one whole image of God and thus do not need to be remerged into one being with a male, but we can if we want to. But once I am thus merged, it is very painful to un-merge.
The risk of merging with another human being is that you merge with all of their sin nature flaws and weaknesses. It's somewhat dangerous. That is why the two of you must trust the Lord and cooperate with each other in the sanctification process constantly because if one person does not follow the Lord, he or she can introduce sin into the other person's life and drag their spiritual progress down. Hence the warning about prostitutes. It has nothing to do with demonic forces, it's just the sin nature of the prostitutes', unredeemed, leaking into the body of the poor person who has merged with her and influencing the victim in the wrong direction.
Listen to this man. He knows what he's talking about.
It has to do with emotions and the body's pair bonding mechanism that is triggered during sex. Basically that mechanism supposed to tell your body that you're one entity with the other person, so you're more inclined to like the things they like, and dislike the things they dislike, etc. Basically you feel along with them, and you also want to feel the same emotions that they are feeling.The symptoms of that merger included insomnia, night terrors, inable to watch fiction, loss of appetite, nausea, feeling like I will turn into a flesh eating zombie, unable to drive, unable to watch porn or fap, staring into space, etc... for something that is seeping into the body (did not have vag sex so I dont know how all that was possible), it sounds like pure venom where a small quantity can do allot of damage.
It has to do with emotions and the body's pair bonding mechanism that is triggered during sex. Basically that mechanism supposed to tell your body that you're one entity with the other person, so you're more inclined to like the things they like, and dislike the things they dislike, etc. Basically you feel along with them, and you also want to feel the same emotions that they are feeling.
The problem is that most human beings don't have the exact same beliefs as each other about everything, and beliefs create emotions. Even if they agree on major things like the Gospel, number of children, and how money should be spent, they are likely to disagree on minor things like frequency of dishwashing and importance of grades for the children. These disagreements mean that they both feel differently about these items and it strains the bond.
In your case, what likely happened is that your beliefs were so different from that of the prostitute's that your system reacted with revulsion - basically your pair-bonding system rejecting the new bond because of how much of an anathema it was to your beliefs. The Holy Spirit might also have induced those symptoms, trying to clear out that influence and safeguard your system. The reason for the delay is that sex feels good, regardless - the oxytocin and dopamine will come. Once that fades, the comparison of your beliefs to hers settles in and your mind was using all of its resources to fight off those beliefs and that bond. An overactive mind doesn't sleep, and most of the symptoms you listed reveal a state of having no mental resources available (can't drive or watch fiction) and alienation from your body (feeling like a zombie) that wanted to bond with the prostitute.
Anyway, I can't prove that demonic powers weren't involved in your experience, but I can say that it's possible that they were not. I can say that the Scripture you were using, however, does not support the idea of demons automatically residing in prostitutes.
Meanwhile, if you wish to discuss this and related matters further, I request that you move this to private message please. The reason why is that we keep drifting into bodily detail (or I do) which @DragonFox91 wants to keep out of this thread. Also, I sense that this experience is likely personal to you and may be sensitive. This is not an attempt to "have the last public word", but that I'm seeing a divergence between your needs in this conversation and DragonFox's intentions for the thread.
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In other things, I will become the title of this thread in slightly more than 4 weeks from today. However, while I may be less concerned about my eventual romantic fate than the deep personal emotional investment of Mr. DragonFox, I am not about to sit on my problem and give up.
I intend to travel for chess tournaments very soon, and a stop in Michigan is definitely on my list of places to visit. I want to know what is going on up there and why there are so many eligible bachelors who are unable to find lady friends. I shall be looking for someone to travel with me as I move through the chess tournament world, and while I do not think anyone on this forum is willing to do so, trouble is definitely headed north.
Thank you for prompting me to think more about this topic. It appears that I have made a subtle error in thought.Even what you've written sounds serious. Very serious...for someone who brought up the idea on this thread. Perhaps you won't suggests its easy for Christian men to get sex by paying for prostitutes if such extreme dynamics are involved -- demon or no demon!
1 Corinthians 7:13-15 said:13 And if any woman has a husband who is an unbeliever and he consents to live with her, she should not divorce the husband. 14 For the unbelieving husband is made holy through his wife, and the unbelieving wife is made holy through the brother. Otherwise, your children would be unclean, but as it is, they are holy. 15 But if the unbelieving partner separates, let it be so; in such a case the brother or sister is not bound. It is to peace that God has called us.
Thank you for prompting me to think more about this topic. It appears that I have made a subtle error in thought.
My remark about prostitutes wasn't about Christians who were trying to follow God's commands. I was talking about the incel community, which I think is largely composed of unbelievers. In that case, the beliefs would be different and the effects would be less. Unfortunately, people do underestimate the bonding effects of intercourse and the trauma it can cause, and I apologize for making that mistake.
The soul is not an area that I am qualified to address. If you're just watching these shows, you're just inhaling lies about how sex works, and that damages your ability to function in a real sexual relationship because you will expect it to be like the illusion on screen, rather than how a real relationship actually works.do you have any insights you would like to share to Christian incels who feel be tempted to, or actively looking at porn, subscribing to onlyfans, and how that would affect their souls?
This is incorrect. If you just watch the show, sure, but the real appeal of these shows is that people touch to them. This damages your body's ability to bond properly, because sex has to bond to something, so it will actually bond to the images on the screen. This will make it so your body only gets turned on by the image or something similar to it.Obviously pair-bonding would not apply there.
It's perhaps a throwaway piece of advice, but you might actually be wasting the best years of your life worrying about something that actually isn't as good as you think it is.
I know double post, but this isn't related to last post.
I am sad today. I feel like a loser. I feel like it'll never change. B/c it never changes. I never make progress. I am not good today.
I feel heartbroken.
I hate this so much.
I hate being single.
Everything's just a distraction from it.
I am completely stuck
What's the point in even trying? It's always a deadend.
FEAR, I can't even find singles at all.
If I wasn't a nerd, I'd probably have one.
I am sad
It will never change. It never has.
Some probably do, yes.
I don't pray enough. I've never been good at actually taking the time to do it. :/
That meme was actually intended to make fun of myself and try to reassure you that I know what I'm doing. I actually know, from experience, that I enjoy debating sexual topics online with people who are comfortable debating them, and it is a real pleasure of mine.And this is exactly why a lot of members are in this position in the first place, anyone on here with half a brain or a streak of confidence is a threat to them. So they don't listen, they just rattle off sarcasm and second rate memes then crawl back into their hole.
I suspect that I enjoy it because I enjoy debating anything, and also because sex is a subject that isn't commonly talked about.
I confess that my desire for sexuality has been denied and shamed, causing it to emerge in my life in chaotic ways. I have been both burning with passion and shamed and guilted for my condition, and the latter has caused me pain.
I understand. Basically the last 5 or so posts in this thread reflect the level I'm comfortable discussing sexuality on. After I'm married, I imagine that I would be less vocal about these kinds of issues, because a marriage deserves privacy. I've seen people posting about their marriages online on social media and I have felt revolted, like I'm intruding on something private. Hopefully people are satisfied that I've stayed in the bounds of general facts and information, rather than trespassing, and I hope to maintain that for the future.Sex is frequently discussed and debated. I’ve addressed the subject online for years. They don’t employ the restrictions you encounter in religious settings (online and in-person). Singles have limitations and some topics are off-limits (site wide) and referred elsewhere.
Agreed. And, thank you.I’m a stickler for honesty. There’s a lot of emotional baggage and unnecessary handwringing for something God created to be enjoyed.
T Now if you want to sacrifice your body's reproductive capacity for God's kingdom purposes, that's great, but please don't do it out of shame or guilt over past misdeeds, or because you can't find a suitable girlfriend. That doesn't really work as giving yourself up anyway, because you're not being honest with God.
The first step to dealing with all of this is to be honest about what you want. Mr. DragonFox has been honest - he wants to be married. You may want to remain single because you think it is more effective for God's kingdom purposes if you do. But don't remain single because of your previous sexual experiences as an unbeliever, because that's the wrong reason.
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