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Except it doesn't say the nations are all killed so that satan can't deceive them. it says that satan is bound so that he cannot deceive the nations.


This also ignores a verb tense:

Revelation 19:15 And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite (Aorist tense verb with PRESENT tense meaning) the nations: and he shall rule (FUTURE tense verb) them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth(PRESENT tense verb) the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God.


Here rule/poimaino is in the FUTURE tense meaning it will happen at some point AFTER the second coming and battle of Armageddon while treadeth/pateo is written in the PRESENT tense meaning it is happening during this second coming. The treading and smiting are happening at Armageddon but not the ruling which proves mortals will be alive after Armageddon is over. This proves the Premill position because indeed there is a future rule of people who were not slain during the second coming that Christ and his saints will rule over.
 
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This also ignores a verb tense:

Revelation 19:15 And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite (Aorist tense verb with PRESENT tense meaning) the nations:

Just one note on this part, it is an aorist, but in the subjunctive, rather than indicative mood. Usually the tense conveys the action of the verb more than the timing in the subjunctive, so that this would represent a one time or indefinite action.
 
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This also ignores a verb tense:

Revelation 19:15 And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite (Aorist tense verb with PRESENT tense meaning) the nations: and he shall rule (FUTURE tense verb) them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth(PRESENT tense verb) the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God.


Here rule/poimaino is in the FUTURE tense meaning it will happen at some point AFTER the second coming and battle of Armageddon while treadeth/pateo is written in the PRESENT tense meaning it is happening during this second coming. The treading and smiting are happening at Armageddon but not the ruling which proves mortals will be alive after Armageddon is over. This proves the Premill position because indeed there is a future rule of people who were not slain during the second coming that Christ and his saints will rule over.

Actually this has no impact on the meaning and application to Revelation 19:15. As it is the context that determines the words meanings and applications here. None of the vision has happened yet so it is all future tense. When it happens in the future the application of the tenses are relevant. The application in the vision to when Jesus smites the nations with the sharp sword that proceeds out of His mouth is present tense to a future application as is "he shall rule with a rod of iron the treads the winepress and wrath of Almight God. Context matters.

Take Care.
 
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Actually this has no impact on the meaning and application to Revelation 19:15. As it is the context that determines the words meanings and applications here. None of the vision has happened yet (future tense) The application in the vision to when Jesus smites the nations with the sharp sword that proceeds out of His mouth is present tense to future application as is "he shall rule with a rod of iron the treads the winepress and wrath of Almight God. Context matters.

Take Care.

Well there is one aspect that it matters for, and that is action. So the one is seen as more punctiliar, in a point of time, whereas the other is more ongoing, which would make sense given the actions.
 
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Well there is one aspect that it matters for, and that is action. So the one is seen as more punctiliar, in a point of time, whereas the other is more ongoing, which would make sense given the actions.
Yes I already said this
 
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Actually this has no impact on the meaning and application to Revelation 19:15. As it is the context that determines the words meanings and applications here. None of the vision has happened yet so it is all future tense.


John saw things happening and he said the rule over the nations was future from the events of Armageddon. This is solid proof people will live on the Earth and be ruled over during the thousand years.
 
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John saw things happening and he said the rule over the nations was future from the events of Armageddon. This is solid proof people will live on the Earth and be ruled over during the thousand years.
Yes because the context is future application there was nothing you posted that changed the interpretation of the scriptures. This is not solid proof that the wicked nations will be ruled over during the 1000 year millennium at all. I believe your post was disregarding scripture context as shown why already earlier.
 
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Yes because the context is future application there was nothing you posted that changed the interpretation of the scriptures. This is not solid proof that the wicked nations will be ruled over during the 1000 year millennium at all. Your disregarding scripture context.


I'm not disregarding anything. The evidence is that the rule happens after the events of Armageddon are over. Revelation 2 presents the same thing:

Revelation 2:25 But that which ye have already hold fast till I come.

That is the second coming. Everything we read of next comes after the second coming:

Revelation 2:26 And he that overcometh, and keepeth my works unto the end, to him will I give power over the nations:

After "the end" comes, there is given power over the nations to those that are overcomers which naturally includes those who "are alive and remain" at the second coming. They will be given power over the mortal unsaved nations after Christ has returned not before it.
 
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I'm not disregarding anything. The evidence is that the rule happens after the events of Armageddon are over. Revelation 2 presents the same thing:

Revelation 2:25 But that which ye have already hold fast till I come.

That is the second coming. Everything we read of next comes after the second coming:

Revelation 2:26 And he that overcometh, and keepeth my works unto the end, to him will I give power over the nations:

After "the end" comes, there is given power over the nations to those that are overcomers which naturally includes those who "are alive and remain" at the second coming. They will be given power over the mortal unsaved nations after Christ has returned not before it.

Yea? I do not read any of that in the scripture contexts of Revelation 19:15 that we were talking about earlier if I am being honest with you.
 
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Yea? I do not read any of that in the scripture contexts of Revelation 19:15 that we were talking about earlier if I am being honest with you.


A rule over people after the second coming is promised in both chapters.
 
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A rule over people after the second coming is promised in both chapters.
The rule in Revelation 19 is over the second coming and living wicked receiving God's judgements and submission to God's rule with the fierceness of the wrath of the Almighty God which is death shown in Revelation 19:15-21. This is the chapter and scripture context.
 
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Yes, and part two of the longer view is now up.
After reading some of your posts I updated point one from post # 72 for your courtesy as you do not believe all the wicked are destroyed at the second coming correct? So I just made a minor adjustment so in summary your view is ..

You have a premillennial view and...

[1.] Disagree that all the wicked will be destroyed at the second coming in Revelation 19.
[2.] Disagree that Satan being chained to the Abyss represent the earth without people for 1000 years
[3.] Disagree that the pit of the abyss is a desolate earth.
[4.] You believe that the earth is not desolate during the millennium and that the nations are there.
[5.] You believe Satan is placed in the abyss so that he might not deceive the nations there in Revelation 20.​

Just wanted to let you know of the update.

Take Care.
 
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Clearly not referring to Rev. 19 which has the nations still, and an intact city.

1. Clearly is referring to the Rev 19 condition of having " all people, both free and slaves, and small and great” killed at the appearing of Christ such that whatever is imagined to be "missed" in that statement is then covered by "the rest were killed".

Obviously.

There is no extreme inference needed. .

I agree with that but specifically in regard to the obvious point above..

2. No wonder the Bible says there is "no human" left on planet Earth -

Jer 4:
23 I looked at the earth, and behold, it was a formless and desolate emptiness;
And to the heavens, and they had no light.
24 I looked on the mountains, and behold, they were quaking,
And all the hills jolted back and forth.
25 I looked, and behold, there was no human,
And all the birds of the sky had fled.
26 I looked, and behold, the fruitful land was a wilderness,
And all its cities were pulled down
Before the Lord, before His fierce anger.

Jer 25:

33 “Those put to death by the Lord on that day will be from one end of the earth to the other. They will not be mourned, gathered, or buried; they will be like dung on the face of the ground.​

3. No wonder this is described as all saints taken to heaven 1 Thess 4:13-18 and all unbeliever slain at Christ's appearing.

2 Thess 1:
6 For after all it is only right for God to repay with affliction those who afflict you, 7 and to give relief to you who are afflicted, along with us, when the Lord Jesus will be revealed from heaven with His mighty angels 8 in flaming fire, dealing out retribution to those who do not know God, and to those who do not obey the gospel of our Lord Jesus.
4. No wonder the Bible informs us that after the rapture -- and all the lost slain -- those wicked dead (which are the rest of the dead ... not raised ) - do not come to life until the 1000 years are ended.

Rev 20: 5 The rest of the dead did not come to life until the thousand years were completed. This is the first resurrection​

5. No wonder the Bible says that this condition (which leaves no humans alive on earth) creates a condition where Satan can no longer tempt humans. (no longer tempt the nations).
 
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Revelation 2:25 But that which ye have already hold fast till I come.

That is the second coming. Everything we read of next comes after the second coming:

Revelation 2:26 And he that overcometh, and keepeth my works unto the end, to him will I give power over the nations:

After "the end" comes, there is given power over the nations to those that are overcomers which naturally includes those who "are alive and remain" at the second coming. They will be given power over the mortal unsaved nations after Christ has returned not before it.


The rule in Revelation 19 is over the second coming and living wicked receiving God's judgements and submission to God's rule with the fierceness of the wrath of the Almighty God which is death shown in Revelation 19:15-21. This is the chapter and scripture context.


We need to look at the underlying Old Testament text alluded to in both passages:

Psa 2:1 Why do the nations rage and the peoples plot in vain?
Psa 2:2 The kings of the earth set themselves, and the rulers take counsel together, against the LORD and against his Anointed, saying,

Psa 2:3 “Let us burst their bonds apart and cast away their cords from us.”
Psa 2:4 He who sits in the heavens laughs; the Lord holds them in derision.
Psa 2:5 Then he will speak to them in his wrath, and terrify them in his fury, saying,
Psa 2:6 “As for me, I have set my King on Zion, my holy hill.”
Psa 2:7 I will tell of the decree: The LORD said to me, “You are my Son; today I have begotten you.

Psa 2:8 Ask of me, and I will make the nations your heritage, and the ends of the earth your possession.
Psa 2:9 You shall break them with a rod of iron and dash them in pieces like a potter's vessel.”
Psa 2:10 Now therefore, O kings, be wise; be warned, O rulers of the earth.
Psa 2:11 Serve the LORD with fear, and rejoice with trembling.

Psa 2:12 Kiss the Son, lest he be angry, and you perish in the way, for his wrath is quickly kindled. Blessed are all who take refuge in him.


We have reference to the nations, and to kings. The kings are warned to serve the Lord, or they will perish.


Revelation 2 refers to Psalm 2:9

Rev 2:26 The one who conquers and who keeps my works until the end, to him I will give authority over the nations,
Rev 2:27 and he will rule them with a rod of iron, as when earthen pots are broken in pieces, even as I myself have received authority from my Father.

But there is some significant new information here. The authority spoken of in Rev. 2 is "authority over the nations". But it is delegated authority from Christ to the overcoming believer.

So to say that the authority spoken of is limited to destroying the wicked at the coming of Jesus makes no sense here, because the believer is not the one smiting the wicked at Jesus' coming.

But according to Rev. 20 some are reigning with Christ. And here it says they have authority over the NATIONS.

Now in Revelation 19 we see Psalm 2:9 referenced again:

Rev 19:15 From his mouth comes a sharp sword with which to strike down the nations, and he will rule them with a rod of iron. He will tread the winepress of the fury of the wrath of God the Almighty.
Rev 19:16 On his robe and on his thigh he has a name written, King of kings and Lord of lords.
Rev 19:17 Then I saw an angel standing in the sun, and with a loud voice he called to all the birds that fly directly overhead, “Come, gather for the great supper of God,
Rev 19:18 to eat the flesh of kings, the flesh of captains, the flesh of mighty men, the flesh of horses and their riders, and the flesh of all, both free and slave, both small and great.”
Rev 19:19 And I saw the beast and the kings of the earth with their armies gathered to make war against him who was sitting on the horse and against his army.
Rev 19:20 And the beast was captured, and with it the false prophet who in its presence had done the signs by which he deceived those who had received the mark of the beast and those who worshiped its image. These two were thrown alive into the lake of fire that burns with sulfur.
Rev 19:21 And the rest were slain by the sword that came from the mouth of him who was sitting on the horse, and all the birds were gorged with their flesh.

Jesus comes as King of Kings and Lord of Lords. And He destroys the kings and their armies gathered to resist Him. Just as in Psalm 2 where the kings are warned to submit or they will perish.

The birds are gathered to this place as well to eat of the flesh of the armies of the kings, including the horses.

So we see the kings who resist Christ shattered, and slain in a battle in a particular spot where they are gathered.

Previously Christ ruled over the nations through delegated authority, through servants (Rom. 13), but now directly. The kings did not submit and perished.

The kings and their armies are gone. But the nations are not. Satan is bound so that he might not deceive the nations:

Rev 20:2 And he seized the dragon, that ancient serpent, who is the devil and Satan, and bound him for a thousand years,
Rev 20:3 and threw him into the pit, and shut it and sealed it over him, so that he might not deceive the nations any longer, until the thousand years were ended. After that he must be released for a little while.


Then we see those given authority to reign with Christ:

Rev 20:4 Then I saw thrones, and seated on them were those to whom the authority to judge was committed. Also I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded for the testimony of Jesus and for the word of God, and those who had not worshiped the beast or its image and had not received its mark on their foreheads or their hands. They came to life and reigned with Christ for a thousand years.


What are Christ and these who are given authority reigning over? The nations which is stated in Rev. 2

Rev 2:26 The one who conquers and who keeps my works until the end, to him I will give authority over the nations,
Rev 2:27 and he will rule them with a rod of iron, as when earthen pots are broken in pieces, even as I myself have received authority from my Father.

Jesus slays the kings and their armies, and reigns over their nations, along with those He gave authority.

 
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We need to look at the underlying Old Testament text alluded to in both passages:

Psa 2:1 Why do the nations rage and the peoples plot in vain?
Psa 2:2 The kings of the earth set themselves, and the rulers take counsel together, against the LORD and against his Anointed, saying,
Psa 2:3 “Let us burst their bonds apart and cast away their cords from us.”
Psa 2:4 He who sits in the heavens laughs; the Lord holds them in derision.
Psa 2:5 Then he will speak to them in his wrath, and terrify them in his fury, saying,
Psa 2:6 “As for me, I have set my King on Zion, my holy hill.”
Psa 2:7 I will tell of the decree: The LORD said to me, “You are my Son; today I have begotten you.
Psa 2:8 Ask of me, and I will make the nations your heritage, and the ends of the earth your possession.
Psa 2:9 You shall break them with a rod of iron and dash them in pieces like a potter's vessel.”
Psa 2:10 Now therefore, O kings, be wise; be warned, O rulers of the earth.
Psa 2:11 Serve the LORD with fear, and rejoice with trembling.
Psa 2:12 Kiss the Son, lest he be angry, and you perish in the way, for his wrath is quickly kindled. Blessed are all who take refuge in him.


We have reference to the nations, and to kings. The kings are warned to serve the Lord, or they will perish.


Revelation 2 refers to Psalm 2:9

Rev 2:26 The one who conquers and who keeps my works until the end, to him I will give authority over the nations,
Rev 2:27 and he will rule them with a rod of iron, as when earthen pots are broken in pieces, even as I myself have received authority from my Father.

But there is some significant new information here. The authority spoken of in Rev. 2 is "authority over the nations". But it is delegated authority from Christ to the overcoming believer.

So to say that the authority spoken of is limited to destroying the wicked at the coming of Jesus makes no sense here, because the believer is not the one smiting the wicked at Jesus' coming.

But according to Rev. 20 some are reigning with Christ. And here it says they have authority over the NATIONS.

Now in Revelation 19 we see Psalm 2:9 referenced again:

Rev 19:15 From his mouth comes a sharp sword with which to strike down the nations, and he will rule them with a rod of iron. He will tread the winepress of the fury of the wrath of God the Almighty.
Rev 19:16 On his robe and on his thigh he has a name written, King of kings and Lord of lords.
Rev 19:17 Then I saw an angel standing in the sun, and with a loud voice he called to all the birds that fly directly overhead, “Come, gather for the great supper of God,
Rev 19:18 to eat the flesh of kings, the flesh of captains, the flesh of mighty men, the flesh of horses and their riders, and the flesh of all, both free and slave, both small and great.”
Rev 19:19 And I saw the beast and the kings of the earth with their armies gathered to make war against him who was sitting on the horse and against his army.
Rev 19:20 And the beast was captured, and with it the false prophet who in its presence had done the signs by which he deceived those who had received the mark of the beast and those who worshiped its image. These two were thrown alive into the lake of fire that burns with sulfur.
Rev 19:21 And the rest were slain by the sword that came from the mouth of him who was sitting on the horse, and all the birds were gorged with their flesh.

Jesus comes as King of Kings and Lord of Lords. And He destroys the kings and their armies gathered to resist Him. Just as in Psalm 2 where the kings are warned to submit or they will perish.

The birds are gathered to this place as well to eat of the flesh of the armies of the kings, including the horses.

So we see the kings who resist Christ shattered, and slain in a battle in a particular spot where they are gathered.

Previously Christ ruled over the nations through delegated authority, through servants (Rom. 13), but now directly. The kings did not submit and perished.

The kings and their armies are gone. But the nations are not. Satan is bound so that he might not deceive the nations:

Rev 20:2 And he seized the dragon, that ancient serpent, who is the devil and Satan, and bound him for a thousand years,
Rev 20:3 and threw him into the pit, and shut it and sealed it over him, so that he might not deceive the nations any longer, until the thousand years were ended. After that he must be released for a little while.


Then we see those given authority to reign with Christ:

Rev 20:4 Then I saw thrones, and seated on them were those to whom the authority to judge was committed. Also I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded for the testimony of Jesus and for the word of God, and those who had not worshiped the beast or its image and had not received its mark on their foreheads or their hands. They came to life and reigned with Christ for a thousand years.


What are Christ and these who are given authority reigning over? The nations which is stated in Rev. 2

Rev 2:26 The one who conquers and who keeps my works until the end, to him I will give authority over the nations,
Rev 2:27 and he will rule them with a rod of iron, as when earthen pots are broken in pieces, even as I myself have received authority from my Father.

Jesus slays the kings and their armies, and reigns over their nations, along with those He gave authority.

For me personally it is an assumption to think that Revelation 2:26-27 is in reference to Gods people being in charge of the living wicked during the 1000 year millennium as the nations and the time periods and context is left out and not defined. Although, I can see application to the rule here as the judgement that will be taking place during the 1000 year millennium after all the wicked have been destroyed (more on that latter). Note also the rule here is in context to breaking pots (destruction) which to me is in context to judgement against the wicked and the second death.
 
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For me personally it is an assumption to think that Revelation 2:26-27 is in reference to Gods people being in charge of the living wicked during the 1000 year millennium as the nations and the time periods and context is left out and not defined.

The same reference to Psalm 2 is used in both Rev. 19 and Rev. 2, which does help to tie the two together, however.

Although, I can see application to the rule here as the judgement that will be taking place during the 1000 year millennium after all the wicked have been destroyed (more on that latter).

I can understand that application, I noted it in I Corinthians 6 regarding judging angels, etc. I think in the long version statement. However, it says authority over the nations, and they reign with Him, not just judging. There is overlap. The I Corinthians example clearly includes judgment in the investigatory sense. But the other contexts are more broad.

Note also the rule here is in context to breaking pots (destruction) which to me is in context to judgement against the wicked and the second death.

I would say it is more showing no resistance, with the contrast between iron and hard clay.

If you think it is referring to the destruction of the wicked, however, the righteous don't actively carry out the sentence, as God does that by His own means.
 
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The same reference to Psalm 2 is used in both Rev. 19 and Rev. 2, which does help to tie the two together, however.

I can understand that application, I noted it in I Corinthians 6 regarding judging angels, etc. I think in the long version statement. However, it says authority over the nations, and they reign with Him, not just judging. There is overlap. The I Corinthians example clearly includes judgment in the investigatory sense. But the other contexts are more broad.

I would say it is more showing no resistance, with the contrast between iron and hard clay.

If you think it is referring to the destruction of the wicked, however, the righteous don't actively carry out the sentence, as God does that by His own means.

Before I start sharing on a more detailed note. I just want to say I am not here to tell anyone what to believe in regards to the millennium or to debate anything so there is no misunderstandings in regards to my future posts here. Discussion is fine but all I will be sharing my view of the scriptures as God has revealed them to me. What anyone else believes is between them and God. So if we can all take this approach to a friendly discussion I think would be more helpful rather than an approach that "I am right you are wrong". My time is also limited here so I can only respond when I get some time. From what I have been reading here I see your major disagreement is that the wicked are not all destroyed at the second coming which I would like to talk about in more detail because if it can be shown from the scriptures that the wicked are destroyed at the second coming then this of course deals with many other disagreements you have in regards to you views shown in post # 92 linked which can also be discussed afterwards. So I am nearly caught up reading and will post soon. As mentioned earlier, I am not after a SDA is wrong and I am right discussion as what I have seen in the last few threads on the millennium but just a friendly discussion as to what and why we believe is best in my view. As posted earlier I am not here to tell you or anyone what to believe and so will only be sharing my own personal view and understanding of the scriptures as God reveals it to me so I hope you or everyone here can do the same. I am the first to put up my hand and say I do not know everything in the book of Revelation but I pray God to be my guide and teacher as I seek Him through His Words.
 
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As this thread is slightly different focus to what I am wanting to post on I might look to start a new thread that will be on what happens to all the unrepentant living wicked at the second coming and the Millennium or 1000 year reign with Christ in another thread with a focus on Revelation 19 to Revelation 21 with comparative scriptures from Revelation 19 which will focus on the second coming and those who receive the "mark of the beast" in Revelation 19:20-21 with the warnings given in regards to receiving the "mark of the beast" from Revelation 14:6-20 but also looking at the meanings of "rule the nations with a rod of iron" and its application to the "wine press of the wrath of God" from Revelation 19:15 and it's parallel to Revelation 14:6-20 as the Revelation 14 parallel to Revelation 19 second coming explains that all the living wicked are destroyed at the second coming. This leaves the 1000 year millennium where Satan is chained to the abyss of no one to tempt to contemplate his actions while the delivered saints reign in judgement on the wicked before the second resurrection in Revelation 20. Is everyone ok in my doing this or should I just post here?
 
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As this thread is slightly different focus to what I am wanting to post on I might look to start a new thread that will be on what happens to all the unrepentant wicked at the second coming and the Millennium or 1000 year reign with Christ in another thread with a focus on Revelation 19 to Revelation 21 with comparative scriptures from Revelation 19 which will focus on the second coming and those who receive the "mark of the beast" in Revelation 19:20-21 with the warnings given in regards to receiving the "mark of the beast" from Revelation 14:6-20 but also looking at the meanings of "rule the nations with a rod of iron" and its application to the "wine press" of the wrath of God from Revelation 19:15 and it's parallel to Revelation 14:6-20 as the Revelation 14 parallel to Revelation 19 second coming explains that all the living wicked are destroyed at the second coming. This leaves the 1000 year millennium where Satan is chained to the abyss of no one to tempt to contemplate his actions while the delivered saints reign in judgement on the wicked before the second resurrection in Revelation 20. Is everyone ok in my doing this?
I think its a great idea.
 
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Rev 19:16 On his robe and on his thigh he has a name written, King of kings and Lord of lords.
Rev 19:17 Then I saw an angel standing in the sun, and with a loud voice he called to all the birds that fly directly overhead, “Come, gather for the great supper of God,
Rev 19:18 to eat the flesh of kings, the flesh of captains, the flesh of mighty men, the flesh of horses and their riders, and the flesh of all, both free and slave, both small and great.”

Rev 19:19 And I saw the beast and the kings of the earth with their armies gathered to make war against him who was sitting on the horse and against his army.
Rev 19:20 And the beast was captured, and with it the false prophet who in its presence had done the signs by which he deceived those who had received the mark of the beast and those who worshiped its image. These two were thrown alive into the lake of fire that burns with sulfur.
Rev 19:21 And the rest were slain by the sword that came from the mouth of him who was sitting on the horse, and all the birds were gorged with their flesh.

Indeed the death " of all, both free and slave, both small and great.” where instead of the "rest" being so many "nations left out" it is stated - instead -- " And the rest were slain by the sword that came from the mouth of him who was sitting on the horse,"

As we saw here
1. Clearly is referring to the Rev 19 condition of having " all people, both free and slaves, and small and great” killed at the appearing of Christ such that whatever is imagined to be "missed" in that statement is then covered by "the rest were killed".

Obviously.

2. No wonder the Bible says there is "no human" left on planet Earth -
Jer 4:
23 I looked at the earth, and behold, it was a formless and desolate emptiness;
And to the heavens, and they had no light.
24 I looked on the mountains, and behold, they were quaking,
And all the hills jolted back and forth.
25 I looked, and behold, there was no human,

And all the birds of the sky had fled.
26 I looked, and behold, the fruitful land was a wilderness,
And all its cities were pulled down

Before the Lord, before His fierce anger.

Jer 25:
33 “Those put to death by the Lord on that day will be from one end of the earth to the other. They will not be mourned, gathered, or buried; they will be like dung on the face of the ground.

3. No wonder this is described as all saints taken to heaven 1 Thess 4:13-18 and all unbeliever slain at Christ's appearing.

2 Thess 1:
6 For after all it is only right for God to repay with affliction those who afflict you, 7 and to give relief to you who are afflicted, along with us, when the Lord Jesus will be revealed from heaven with His mighty angels 8 in flaming fire, dealing out retribution to those who do not know God, and to those who do not obey the gospel of our Lord Jesus.

4. No wonder the Bible informs us that after the rapture -- and all the lost slain -- those wicked dead (which are the rest of the dead ... not raised ) - do not come to life until the 1000 years are ended.

Rev 20: 5 The rest of the dead did not come to life until the thousand years were completed. This is the first resurrection
5. No wonder the Bible says that this condition (which leaves no humans alive on earth) creates a condition where Satan can no longer tempt humans. (no longer tempt the nations).

Those texts point to the very "desolate earth condition" that many had hoped would never exist at all on Earth and certainly not as the conditions on earth just at the point where the 1000 years end.

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