Ordered complexity is a demonstration of applied intelligence.
Fail. That sentence begs the question. Ordered complexity is an implication of intelligence, not a demonstration of that which is implied.
If you found the words "The wondrous light of the dawn brings a cascade of illumination upon the waves." scrawled into the sand on a beach, you would not suspect it was the result of a few seagulls walking around in a manner which coincidentally make marks in the sand which resulted in that sentence. You would see the intent and purpose in the sentence and understand it is the result of applied intelligence.
Fail again. The analogy stipulates inherent meaning. By using the word "words" the example is much different than the earth as the center of the universe. This means the analogy of centered-earth and words in the sand is a false equivalence. It is because the words having meaning and communicate that meaning we can infer prior intelligence as the source. That doesn't exist with a big ball spinning in space.
In the same was you can see that the hour hand on a watch is not just some purposeless part among many other purposeless parts of metal and plastic heaped together.
Another failed anology
The data does not demonstrate the absence of anything.
It does; you're just not informed enough to understand it.
The opposite is true; it demonstrates that our solar system is the result of deliberate placement, in the same way you'd understand the deliberate placement of rhyming words in a poem or song.
Data is raw. It has no meaning.
Information is data with meaning. Sometimes that meaning is
inherent; sometimes that meaning is
attributed. Learn the difference between inherent and attributed meaning.
Furthermore, the earth isn't the center of the universe. I don't know where you got that idea but it is a falsehood. The
fact is we have no way of determining what or where is the center of the universe. The reason this is the case is because we only know of the parts of the universe from whence we have observable light. Anything beyond that hasn't yet reached us. We don't truly know the shape or size of the universe; much less its center.
The reason I am so blunt with you is because I want you to be a better apologist for Christianity. You are mucking it up for the rest of us and I'd like you to stop it. Get better at understanding, get better and fact-testing, and get better at reason.
The skeptical scientists themselves understand that if the data is accurate (according to wiki they're still hoping it will just go away some day) then it would demonstrate that the earth is special in the universe.
So you're building your proof on skeptics? Please for the love of God and all of heaven and earth learn how to check your fact and form a logical argument for any case you present.
You are on to something with the existence of
inherent information. It does, necessarily, imply prior intelligence. It does not
prove prior intelligence. The best we can say is that given our current understanding of the physics, information, the universe, etc., the only source we know of for inherent information is prior intelligence, and that weights the debate in favor of some superior intelligence, one Christians believe to be God. Complexity in and of itself is not proof of anything. Attaching the word "ordered" doesn't change that fact. Go back and re-read Behe. You missed something.
You must understand the most of the atheists here are not atheists; they are anti-theists. They like it when you make a pinhead of yourself; foolish ops like this are used to mock you, ridicule Christians as a whole, and deny the existence of God.
John,
if you are really interested in cosmological arguments then read these three books:
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Hyperspace," by Michio Kaku
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The Emperor's New Mind," by Roger Penrose
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The Dark Side of the Universe," by James Trefill
Penrose oversaw Stephen Hawking's doctoral dissertation. These are older books, and some of the content has changed with newer discoveries but these sources will help you be a better apologist. They'l make you a better critic of both Christian and secular sources. They'll also give you a much greater appreciation for God's creation and the complexity therein
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