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1 hour ago -- Trump says Mexico is paying for the wall

Discussion in 'American Politics' started by Mountainmanbob, Jan 10, 2019.

  1. Mountainmanbob

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    It might be a roundabout payment but, we have to give Trump credit for the deal he made with Mexico we are doing far better and the deal he made with Canada we are doing far better and the deal he is now making with China it's going to be a great Advantage for the United States compared to what Obama used to do warning China you shouldn't do that.

    Trump doesn't wine to China with little warnings that carry absolutely no weight he acts.

    Probably why the Democrats can't stand it -- he is being successful.


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    And all this going on here and the press about Trump claiming Mexico was going to outright build the wall, or "write the check" for it...I believe that less and less.

    But who knows, maybe someone can show us where he outright said they would write the check and it was ever anything other than money from the "deal" that was going to pay for it.
     
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    Get on with life ? The government partial shut down stopped your life ? If I hadn't accidentally heard it on the news and in here I wouldn't know it ever happened.
     
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  11. Kenny'sID

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    I just know it will. :)
     
  12. EpiscipalMe

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    It would be great news - if it were true.

    Even if USMCA were ratified (which it isn’t) there is no evidence I am aware of that it is going to reduce the trade deficit with Mexico.

    “In summary, USMCA can be seen, on balance, as an improvement over NAFTA, but not much of one. It will have no measurable effect on economic growth, job growth or wage growth in the United States. It will have no appreciable effect on the U.S. trade deficit with Mexico.”
    USMCA Is Not The Magnificent Trade Deal Trump Says It Is

    Now, for the sake of argument, let’s say the trade deficit is reduced. This is money that is distributed among all the people who import/export and those who consume/sell imported/exported products/services.

    This is not money that goes into the federal treasury so Trump can build a wall.

    So, sorry, Mexico is not paying for it. Trump repeat this lie (again) does not make it true.
     
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  13. whatbogsends

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    Well, Trump said it, so it must be true. :sigh:

    It's amazing that his supporters still quote Trump as if him saying something is evidence for the thing he says actually being true.
     
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  14. Dave G.

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    Care to explain this sentiment ?
     
  15. zephcom

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    When the Mexican money lands in the US Treasury THEN he can build the wall.

    Trade 'deals' don't benefit the US Treasury, they benefit the wealthy elites. He can very likely fool the fanboys with his shell game but the rest of us know full well we are being shafted yet again.
     
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  16. Kenny'sID

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    To what thing are you referring?
     
  17. Monna

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    So why ask Congress for 5.7 million dollars? "Mexico will pay. "
     
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    In this case, the thing is: "Mexico is paying for the wall" (I couldn't see the video, but i'll take the OP's word for it that Trump said it).

    In the past, Trump has said things like “We got back our great fallen heroes, the remains sent back today, already 200 got sent back”. When he made that statement, the number of bodies that had been returned was ZERO. Two months later, they returned 50 caskets, so even giving him a 2-month grace period, his claim was false. It's also not even unprecedented. Between 1990 and 2006, 400 caskets had been returned.

    Trump says North Korea has returned remains of 200 U.S. war dead | Reuters

    US forensic analysis says bodies returned from North Korea are likely the real deal

    There are numerous other things the President says that have been shown to be factually untrue. Just last week Trump claimed that past Presidents told him they supported the wall. Of course, all 4 living past presidents were subsequently asked and denied saying what Trump claims. Unless you believe the ghosts of past Presidents are communicating with Trump, his claim is yet another pants-on-fire lie.
     
  19. wing2000

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    The yet to be answered question....two years and running. MountainBob is ever hopeful.
     
  20. Kenny'sID

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    Can you disprove what he said in the video about him never claiming Mexico would actually write out a check for the wall, but it would be paid for through the deal with Mexico?
     
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