Holy spirit baptism

admtaylor said:

Ok, I've heard opinion after opinion for and against this particular event. I've formed some of my own feelings on this and have been going to God in prayer over it. Instead of getting opinions from friends, pastors and books, I'd like an opinion from an outside source that doesn't know me, or doesn't have an editor to clean up their book. Give me your raw feelings on this. If you believe in this, convince me biblically why you do. If you don't convince me bliblicaly why you don't.

Thanks.

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This experience is for today, and millions of people have received.


Act 2:17 "When the last days come, I will give my Spirit to everyone. Your sons and daughters will prophesy. Your young men will see visions, and your old men will have dreams.
Act 2:18 In those days I will give my Spirit to my servants, both men and women, and they will prophesy.
Act 2:19 I will work miracles in the sky above and wonders on the earth below. There will be blood and fire and clouds of smoke.
Act 2:20 The sun will turn dark, and the moon will be as red as blood before the great and wonderful day of the Lord appears.

We are still in the last days, and this is still for us!

My advice: just ask God to make it really clear to you Himself. That will get you the best results possible and whatever He says goes.

But for your Biblical reference see:

Acts*19:1 It happened that while Apollos was at Corinth, Paul passed through the upper country and came to Ephesus, and found some disciples.
Acts*19:2 He said to them, "Did you receive the Holy Spirit when you believed?" And they said to him, "No, we have not even heard whether there is a Holy Spirit."
Acts*19:3 And he said, "Into what then were you baptized?" And they said, "Into John's baptism."
Acts*19:4 Paul said, "John baptized with the baptism of repentance, telling the people to believe in Him who was coming after him, that is, in Jesus."
Acts*19:5 When they heard this, they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus.
Acts*19:6 And when Paul had laid his hands upon them, the Holy Spirit came on them, and they began speaking with tongues and prophesying.

admtaylor said:

I don't doubt that the Holy Spirit resides in all believers.

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It is the spirit of Christ that is in all believers. When you are born again, your fallen adamic spirit is replaced by the spirit of Christ. This is not the Holy Spirit.

My question is why does there need to be another baptism? The believers in the NT were believers before they received the Spirit yes, but they were also believers before Christ died.

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These folks were believers, but they were not born again as discussed above. Jesus had not yet be raised from the dead, so the new birth not yet available.

With I think one exception, but they received the Holy Spirit upon belief and conviction. So why would we need this special baptism?

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God gave us the baptism of the Holy Spirit to be a helper. He is "come along side to help" us edify and mature the above mentioned spirit of Christ that has been born into us. He is also here to help save the lost.

Does not every believer receive the Holy Spirit upon conversion?

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The spirit of Christ dwells in every believer upon conversion. But the Holy Spirit baptism comes after.... if only a moment.

Luke 24:49 And, behold, I send the promise of my Father upon you: but tarry ye in the city of Jerusalem, until ye be endued with power from on high.

Act 1:8 But ye shall receive power, after that the Holy Ghost is come upon you: and ye shall be witnesses unto me both in Jerusalem, and in all Judaea, and in Samaria, and unto the uttermost part of the earth.

It is the spirit of Christ that is in all believers. When you are born again, your fallen adamic spirit is replaced by the spirit of Christ. This is not the Holy Spirit.

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Hey Hobie,

That is an interesting remark. How then do we explain the verses below? Are you saying that the Spirit here is not the Holy Spirit but the spirit (small s that you used) of Christ?

1Co 12:3 Wherefore I give you to understand, that no man speaking by the Spirit of God calleth Jesus accursed: and that no man can say that Jesus is the Lord, but by the Holy Ghost.

Whether they speak in tongues or not (ie Spirit baptised) they can say Jesus is Lord (and mean it)

Ro 8:9 But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.

Aren't Spirit of God and Spirit of Christ here the same as the Holy Spirit?

The promise of the Holy Spirit is a fellowship promise that was made to Abraham and those who are the children of Abraham (by faith).

Galatians 3
7 Know ye therefore that they which are of faith, the same are the children of Abraham.
8 And the scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the heathen through faith, preached before the gospel unto Abraham, [saying], In thee shall all nations be blessed.
9 So then they which be of faith are blessed with faithful Abraham.
10 For as many as are of the works of the law are under the curse: for it is written, Cursed [is] every one that continueth not in all things which are written in the book of the law to do them.
11 But that no man is justified by the law in the sight of God, [it is] evident: for, The just shall live by faith.
12 And the law is not of faith: but, The man that doeth them shall live in them.
13 Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us: for it is written, Cursed [is] every one that hangeth on a tree:
14 That the blessing of Abraham might come on the Gentiles through Jesus Christ; that we might receive the promise of the Spirit through faith.

Like Healing and Prosperity the Baptism in the Holy Spirit is a _fellowship_ promise that was made good by the redemptive work of Jesus. We receive the spirit because Jesus made good all the promises of God, and secondarily, because He handed this blessing to us who were raised up together with Him. The promise was made to Abraham, Jacob, and all their seed. We are considered their seed when we are born again by faith.

Isa 44
1 ¶ Yet now hear, O Jacob my servant; and Israel, whom I have chosen:
2 Thus saith the LORD that made thee, and formed thee from the womb, [which] will help thee; Fear not, O Jacob, my servant; and thou, Jesurun, whom I have chosen.
3 For I will pour water upon him that is thirsty, and floods upon the dry ground: I will pour my spirit upon thy seed, and my blessing upon thine offspring:
4 And they shall spring up [as] among the grass, as willows by the water courses.

We are made recipients of this promise (and all the fellowship promises) because we are the children of Abraham and because all the promises are made good by Jesus. All the promises are in Him Yea and Amen. This includes the promise of the Spirit.

Joel 2
28 ¶ And it shall come to pass afterward, [that] I will pour out my spirit upon all flesh; and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, your old men shall dream dreams, your young men shall see visions:
29 And also upon the servants and upon the handmaids in those days will I pour out my spirit.
Acts 2:39
For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, [even] as many as the Lord our God shall call.

This is a powerful scripture that defines the boundaries of who are legal recipients of the promise. The promise has never been withdrawn either in time or place.

We are the children of promise because we have faith like Abraham:

Galatians 3
7 Know ye therefore that they which are of faith, the same are the children of Abraham.
We receive the promise of the Holy Spirit by believing the promises:that is by faith:

Luke 11:
13 If ye then, being evil, know how to give good gifts unto your children: how much more shall [your] heavenly Father give the Holy Spirit to them that ask him?
We stand on this promise from the mouth of Jesus. He said the Holy Spirit would be given to all who ask. The basis of His generosity is His own goodness toward His own children. We are those children and so can know that when we ask we receive (by faith). Paul reinforced this point to the Galatian Christians:

Ga 3:
2 This only would I learn of you, Received ye the Spirit by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith?

Ga 3:
5 He therefore that ministereth to you the Spirit, and worketh miracles among you, [doeth he it] by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith?
Jesus promised to send the Holy Spirit to all who asked:

John 14
16 And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever;
17 [Even] the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.
18 I will not leave you comfortless: I will come to you.

Andrew said:

Hey Hobie,

That is an interesting remark. How then do we explain the verses below? Are you saying that the Spirit here is not the Holy Spirit but the spirit (small s that you used) of Christ?

1Co 12:3 Wherefore I give you to understand, that no man speaking by the Spirit of God calleth Jesus accursed: and that no man can say that Jesus is the Lord, but by the Holy Ghost.

Whether they speak in tongues or not (ie Spirit baptised) they can say Jesus is Lord (and mean it)

Ro 8:9 But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.

Aren't Spirit of God and Spirit of Christ here the same as the Holy Spirit?

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Hi Andy..
This topic really deserves a thread by itself...
I had never been happy with the common concept the the Holy Spirit and the Spirit of Christ were the same thing. For a number of years I just kind of skirted the issue and finally could stand it no more and so began looking into the topic in depth. My conclusion was that they are in fact not the same.
The Holy Spirit is was we commonly refer to as the 3rd person of the "trinity",
That which we refer as the "spirit of Christ" is the reborm spirit of Christ that replaces the fallen adamic spirit.
The "spirit of Christ" in the larger sense is comprised of all the members of the body of Christ of which Jesus is the head. We are each individually members of that body. This teaching is part of the Heb 6:1 doctrine of the Baptisms, in that we are partakers of the death, burial, and ressurection of Jesus. When he rose from the dead in spirit, we were raised with Him. He is the head, and we the body came right with Him.

As to the couple scriptures you mentioned, 1 Corin 12 is a discussion of the spirit of Christ. The KJV of first verse leads one to believe that the next three chapers are talking exclusively about the Holy Spirit and His gifts. More accurately, the verse should read "spiritual matters" instead of "spiritual gifts." There is much more discussed here than the gifts of the Holy Spirit. I realize that in that in verse 3, as in many places in the NT, the word "Spirit" is capitalized. This was done by the translators because they in believed it was in fact the Holy Spirit being referred to. As you may know, these words are not capitalized in the original Greek that has been handed down to us. I do not see where this "spirit" this verse should be capitalized. I believe Paul is talking about the spirit that is in a man, being that spirit which was born again into him when he got saved. If you can say "Jesus is Lord" from the heart, then you are saved. If you say "Jesus is cursed" from the heart, then you are not saved. This truth really applies to any spirit... including demons, unsaved people, angels.

Romans 8 follows the same idea. if you read on into the next verses you see clearly that it is talking about the reborn spirit of Christ that is born into us when we are saved:

Rom 8:10 And if Christ [be] in you, the body [is] dead because of sin; but the Spirit [is] life because of righteousness.
Rom 8:11 But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you.


I like Weymoth:
(WNT) But if Christ is in you, though your body must die because of sin, yet your spirit has Life because of righteousness.

hey admtaylor,

I found part of a great sermon by Charles Spurgeon that might be helpfull to you. I, personally, am against most of that charismaniac stuff. The "baptism of the Holy Spirit" happens once at salvation. That is clear in scripture. Clear your head of that stuff and just read the Word.

Sola Scriptura,

bobby

A Sermon
(No. 2382)
Intended for Reading on Lord's-Day, October 14th, 1894,
Delivered By
C. H. SPURGEON,
At the Metropolitan Tabernacle, Newington
On Thursday Evening, July 26th, 1888.

"He shall glorify me: for he shall receive of mine, and shall shew it unto you. All things that the Father hath are mine: therefore said I, that he shall take of mine, and shall show it unto you"—John 16:14-15.
T IS the CHIEF office of the Holy Spirit to glorify Christ. He does many things, but this is what he aims at in all of them, to glorify Christ. Brethren, what the Holy Ghost does must be right for us to imitate: therefore, let us endeavour to glorify Christ. To what higher ends can we "devote ourselves, than to something to which God the Holy Ghost devotes himself? Be this, then, your emotional prayer, "Blessed Spirit, help me ever to glorify the Lord Jesus Christ!"
Observe, that the Gold Ghost glorifies Christ by showing to us the things of Christ. It is a great marvel that there should be any glory given to Christ by showing him to such poor creatures as we are. What! To make us see Christ, does that glorify him? For our weak eyes to behold him, for our trembling hearts to know him, and to love him, does this glorify him? It is even so, for the Holy Ghost chooses this as his principal way of glorifying the Lord Jesus. He takes of the things of Christ, not to show them to angels, not to write them in letters of fire across the brow of night, but to show them unto us. Within the little temple of a sanctified heart, Christ is praised, not so much by what we do, or think, as by what we see. This puts great value upon meditation, upon the study of God's word, and upon silent thought under the teaching of the Holy Spirit, for Jesus says, "He shall glorify me: for he shall receive of mine, and shall shew it unto you."
Here is a gospel word at the very outset of our sermon. Poor sinner, conscious of your sin, it is possible for Christ to be glorified by him being shown unto you. If you look to him, if you see him to be a suitable Saviour, an all-sufficient Saviour, if your mind's eye takes him in, if he is effectually shown to you by the Holy Spirit, he is thereby glorified. Sinner as you are, unworthy apparently to become the arena of Christ's glory, yet shall you be a temple in which the King's glory shall be revealed, and you poor heart, like a mirror, shall reflect his grace.

"Come, Holy Spirit, heavenly Dove,
With all thy quickening powers;"

and show Christ to the sinner, that Christ may be glorified in the sinner's salvation!
If that great work of grace is really done at the beginning of the sermon, I shall not mind even if I never finish it. God the Holy Ghost will have wrought more without me than I could possibly have wrought myself, and to the Triune Jehovah shall be all the praise. Oh, that the name of Christ may be glorified in every one of you! Has the Holy Spirit shown you Christ, the Sin-bearer, the one sacrifice for sin, exalted on high, to give repentance and remission? If so, then the Holy Spirit has glorified Christ, even in you.
Now proceeding to examine the text a little in detail, my first observation upon it is this, the Holy Spirit is our Lord's Glorifier: "He shall glorify me." Secondly, Christ's own things are his best glory: "He shall glorify me: for he shall shew it unto you;" and, thirdly, Christ's glory is his Father's glory: "all things that the Father hath are mine: therefore said I, that he shall take of mine, and shall shew it unto you."
I. To begin, then, the HOLY SPIRIT IS OUR LORD'S GLORIFIER. I want you to keep this truth in your mind, and never to forget it; that which does not glorify Christ is not of the Holy Spirit, and that which is of the Holy Spirit invariably glorifies our Lord Jesus Christ.
First, then, have an eye to this truth in all comforts. If a comfort which you think you need, and which appears to you to be very sweet, does not glorify Christ, look very suspiciously upon it. If, in conversing with an apparently religious man, he prates about truth which he says is comforting, but which does not honour Christ, do not you have anything to do with it. It is a poisonous sweet; it may charm you for a moment, but it will ruin your soul for ever if you partake of it. But blessed are those comforts which smell of Christ, those consolations in which there is a fragrance of myrrh, and aloes, and cassia, out of the King's palace, the comfort drawn from his person, from his work, from his blood, from his resurrection, from his glory, the comfort directly fetched from that sacred spot where he trod the wine-press alone. This is wine of which you may drink, and forget your misery, and be unhappy no more; but always look with great suspicion upon any comfort offered to you, either as a sinner or a saint, which does not come distinctly from Christ. Say, "I will not be comforted till Jesus comforts me. I will refuse to lay aside my despondency until he removes my sin. I will not go to Mr. Civility, or Mr. Legality, for the unloading of my burden; no hands shall ever life the load of conscious sin from off my heart but those that were nailed to the cross, when Jesus himself bore my sins in his own body on the tree." Please carry this truth with you wherever you go, as a kind of spiritual litmus paper, by which you may test everything that is presented to you as a cordial or comfort. If it does not glorify Christ, let it not console or please you.

bobbym336 said:

I, personally, am against most of that charismaniac stuff. The "baptism of the Holy Spirit" happens once at salvation. That is clear in scripture. Clear your head of that stuff and just read the Word.
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Would you mind giving me the scripture you refered to.

Thanks
Aimee

thanks hobie, i had difficulty reconciling the born again spirit vs the Holy Spirit (baptism) when reading Acts. the only way was that the 2 were "different", so your explanation does "fit" things together, though it is quite "untraditional". I'll doing more study on what you said. perhaps you could start another thread on this ie small 's' vs cap 'S'.

God bless!

Andrew said:

Hey Hobie,

That is an interesting remark. How then do we explain the verses below? Are you saying that the Spirit here is not the Holy Spirit but the spirit (small s that you used) of Christ?

1Co 12:3 Wherefore I give you to understand, that no man speaking by the Spirit of God calleth Jesus accursed: and that no man can say that Jesus is the Lord, but by the Holy Ghost.

Whether they speak in tongues or not (ie Spirit baptised) they can say Jesus is Lord (and mean it)

Ro 8:9 But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.

Aren't Spirit of God and Spirit of Christ here the same as the Holy Spirit?

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Yes indeedio

The Bible is clear in that there is only one Spirit.
John 14

14:1 Let not your heart be troubled: ye believe in God, believe also in me.
2 In my Father's house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you.
3 And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also.
4 And whither I go ye know, and the way ye know.
5 Thomas saith unto him, Lord, we know not whither thou goest; and how can we know the way?
6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
7 If ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also: and from henceforth ye know him, and have seen him.
8 Philip saith unto him, Lord, shew us the Father, and it sufficeth us.
9 Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Shew us the Father?
10 Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works.
11 Believe me that I am in the Father, and the Father in me: or else believe me for the very works' sake.
12 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father.
13 And whatsoever ye shall ask in my name, that will I do, that the Father may be glorified in the Son.
14 If ye shall ask any thing in my name, I will do it.
15 If ye love me, keep my commandments.
16 And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever;
17 Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.
18 I will not leave you comfortless: I will come to you.
19 Yet a little while, and the world seeth me no more; but ye see me: because I live, ye shall live also.
20 At that day ye shall know that I am in my Father, and ye in me, and I in you.
21 He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him.
22 Judas saith unto him, not Iscariot, Lord, how is it that thou wilt manifest thyself unto us, and not unto the world?
23 Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.
24 He that loveth me not keepeth not my sayings: and the word which ye hear is not mine, but the Father's which sent me.
25 These things have I spoken unto you, being yet present with you.
26 But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.
27 Peace I leave with you, my peace I give unto you: not as the world giveth, give I unto you. Let not your heart be troubled, neither let it be afraid.
28 Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come again unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I.
29 And now I have told you before it come to pass, that, when it is come to pass, ye might believe.
30 Hereafter I will not talk much with you: for the prince of this world cometh, and hath nothing in me.
31 But that the world may know that I love the Father; and as the Father gave me commandment, even so I do. Arise, let us go hence.
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I believe within this chapter alone, there is some evidence of Jesus making reference to Himself (His Divinity) being the Holy Ghost (Spirit of God). Obviously there is already much scriptural evidence pointing to Jesus (Divinity within) being the Spirit of God, as well as the Holy Ghost being that very same Spirit.

The opening sentence begins with Jesus giving the listeners the general idea of what this teaching will be; Jesus (Divinity within) is the Father, which is also the very same Holy Ghost (Spirit of God). He (Divinity within) and His Father are one and the same.

Jesus explains that by looking at Him, one is also looking at the Father, lining up with Jesus being the ‘image of the invisible God’. Jesus makes it clear that He is in the omnipresent Spirit God, while at the same time this very same substance that is God, is also dwelling within Him (Divinity clothed in humanity). Jesus stamps authority on this point when He says that the words He speaks are the same as His Fathers.

Jesus tells them that the Father dwelling in Him does the miracles, and then also tells them that it is He Himself who does the miracles. This point is also strengthened when Jesus says that after He is glorified, He will do whatever is asked in His name. Whatever Christians ask in His name, He will do.

The spirit of truth that ‘the world cannot receive’ and ‘neither knoweth him’ shows a remarkable similarity to the ‘Word’ in chapter one. Jesus tells them that the spirit of truth (Comforter) dwells ‘with’ them, and will later on, be ‘in’ them. The ‘truth’ we know as being the very same person that dwells with the listeners: Jesus; “I am the truth…”. This point is also strengthened when Jesus says that He will not leave them comfortless: “I will come to you”. This Comforter is of course the Holy Ghost.

Interestingly enough, in this chapter Jesus says that the Father will send the Comforter, yet in the following two chapters Jesus tells them that He Himself will send the Comforter. This again lines up with the scripture: “I and my Father are one”

So here we find: that Spirit which dwelleth in Jesus, is the very same Spirit that indwells believers as the Holy Ghost. The evidence in this one chapter, is compelling enough for one to understand that Jesus indeed claims to be the very same substance that is God, the same substance that also indwells believers.

Lookin 4ward 2 ur reply.

Yes, when persons accept Christ, the Holy Spirit begins a great work in their lives. The Spirit convicts them of sin, convinces them of righteousness, and dwells within them (John 6:44; 14:17; Roman 8:9; 1 Corinthians 12:13). No one becomes a Christian without this gracious work of the Holy Spirit.

However, there is an additional and distinct ministry of the Holy Spirit called the baptism in the Holy Spirit. The Baptism is an empowering gift from God the Father that is promised to every believer (Matthew 3:11; Luke 11:13; 24:49; Acts 2:33, 38). It helps the Christian to live a holy life and also brings a new devotional attachment to Jesus Christ, making Him very real and precious. The primary purpose of the Baptism is to give greater power for witnessing (Acts 1:8). Other benefits include a greater joy in spiritual service, and a heightened sense of one's mission to the world.

God Bless
Joy

admtaylor said:

Ok, I've heard opinion after opinion for and against this particular event. I've formed some of my own feelings on this and have been going to God in prayer over it. Instead of getting opinions from friends, pastors and books, I'd like an opinion from an outside source that doesn't know me, or doesn't have an editor to clean up their book. Give me your raw feelings on this. If you believe in this, convince me biblically why you do. If you don't convince me bliblicaly why you don't.

Thanks.

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I believe we can go directly to Jesus who sent the Holy Spirit to enpower us for minstry.
I often take someone who is thirsty John 7:37-39
Derek Prince is an excellent teacher on this.

hal said:

I believe we can go directly to Jesus who sent the Holy Spirit to enpower us for minstry.
I often take someone who is thirsty John 7:37-39
Derek Prince is an excellent teacher on this.

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Hal, I am not asking you to believe what I posted, I can only testify to what I have experienced from God. I also went directly to Jesus and ask Him if this experience was from Him to please allowe me to experience it and all He had for me. No man or woman convinced me, Jesus convinced me, and thats the reason no man or woman will ever convince me it isn't from God. There are many many teachers some are for and some are against this wonderful experience, I thank God He has allowed me to experience Him in this way.

God Bless
Joy

My response was to a post by Admtalor. I agree with everything you say Joy.
My website will bear this out. I have not had enough posts to give you my url, but you can do a search and find it.
"hal weeks miracles".

didaskalos said:

The spirit of Christ dwells in every believer upon conversion. But the Holy Spirit baptism comes after.... if only a moment.

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How do you justify this from a Trinitarian view (I assume you believe in the Trinity)? If I add correctly you are promoting at least four persons in God...
1. the father (in His heavenly thront)
2. Son (sitting at the right hand of the father)
3. Holy Spirit (sent by Jesus because he LEFT this world)
4. The spirit of Christ. (who RETURNED in ADDITTION to the Holy Spirit).

Can you please clarify this one?

Joe

PastorJoe said:

How do you justify this from a Trinitarian view (I assume you believe in the Trinity)? If I add correctly you are promoting at least four persons in God...
1. the father (in His heavenly thront)
2. Son (sitting at the right hand of the father)
3. Holy Spirit (sent by Jesus because he LEFT this world)
4. The spirit of Christ. (who RETURNED in ADDITTION to the Holy Spirit).

Can you please clarify this one?

Joe

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The Son was made Christ by the Father... He is the head we are the body of Christ.

didaskalos said:

The Son was made Christ by the Father... He is the head we are the body of Christ.

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Ok??? I did not ask if Jesus was the head of the Body. My question was, how many members of the trinity you believe in? Where in Scripture is there a Spirit of Jesus that is different from the Holy Spirit?