Maine elects woman convicted of killing Canadian tourist to city council: ‘So broken’

DaisyDay · 2025-11-08T16:19:46-0600

Hentenza said:
I think it has a bearing on the job and I didn’t say anything about forgiving her. Tell me, would you let a child molester work at a day care center after he/she completes their sentence?

Think about it for a moment: does city council provide any unique opportunity for murder? No. Does the office of the president offer any unique opportunity for corruption? Absolutely.

See, this is where you have failed to grasp that manslaughter is not related to governing while a lifetime of repeated fraud is relevant. In your scenario, Trump is the child molester and the presidency is the day care. You don't seem to have thought through your analogy....

Hentenza · 2025-11-08T16:28:28-0600

DaisyDay said:
Think about it for a moment: does city council provide any unique opportunity for murder? No.

Why does it have to be unique? My issue with her has nothing to do with her committing murder during a council meeting. My problem is that a violent murderer gets to make decisions that affects the lives of the residents of Bangor. But they elected her so they will see what happens.

DaisyDay said:
Does the office of the president offer any unique opportunity for corruption? Absolutely.

So does the council job in Bangor.

DaisyDay said:
See, this is where you have failed to grasp that manslaughter is not related to governing while a lifetime of repeated fraud is relevant. In your scenario, Trump is the child molester and the presidency is the day care. You don't seem to have thought through your analogy....

Your argument is a straw man since my argument never included her murdering someone. I explained it above.

Landon Caeli · 2025-11-08T16:49:55-0600

essentialsaltes said:
It's just 1 felony. Even 34 felonies doesn't disqualify someone necessarily.

Exactly. Murder is no worse than any other "wrong" thing. It's 2025 people, wake up.

Tropical Wilds · 2025-11-08T16:54:28-0600

Vambram said:
How is a convicted killer even eligible for a political office in America?

Same way a convicted felon was eligible to hold political office of president in America.

comana · 2025-11-08T16:54:56-0600

Hentenza said:
Why does it have to be unique? My issue with her has nothing to do with her committing murder during a council meeting. My problem is that a violent murderer gets to make decisions that affects the lives of the residents of Bangor. But they elected her so they will see what happens.

What is it you expect will happen? The voters believe she will do the job she is elected to do.

Hentenza · 2025-11-08T16:56:44-0600

Landon Caeli said:
Exactly. Murder is no worse than any other "wrong" thing. It's 2025 people, wake up.

Unless is someone you love that gets murdered. It is daunting how crime now is accepted as par for the course. Sad really.

Hentenza · 2025-11-08T16:57:22-0600

comana said:
What is it you expect will happen? The voters believe she will do the job she is elected to do.

Remains to be seen.

comana · 2025-11-08T17:00:11-0600

Hentenza said:
Remains to be seen.

Well then, no different than any other politician elect.

Hentenza · 2025-11-08T17:01:52-0600

comana said:
Well then, no different than any other politician elect.

True but violent murder is a bit more serious.

comana · 2025-11-08T17:24:04-0600

Hentenza said:
True but violent murder is a bit more serious.

I still don’t see how it will affect decision making now.

She served her punishment, owns her crime and expresses remorse, has rehabilitated herself from addiction and wants to give back her community through public service.

Does she need to spend the rest of her of her life as a social pariah to satisfy you?

Landon Caeli · 2025-11-08T17:39:52-0600

comana said:
I still don’t see how it will affect decision making now.

She served her punishment, owns her crime and expresses remorse, has rehabilitated herself from addiction and wants to give back her community through public service.

Does she need to spend the rest of her of her life as a social pariah to satisfy you?

Addiction is more often than not, the result of mental illness, not the other way around.

...How do you know she's mentally stable, behind the scenes? And to be in such a position? Seems like recklessness.

comana · 2025-11-08T17:57:34-0600

Landon Caeli said:
Addiction is more often than not, the result of mental illness, not the other way around.

...How do you know she's mentally stable, behind the scenes? And to be in such a position? Seems like recklessness.

There are many reasons people fall into addiction- stress, anxiety, depression, prescriptions, peer pressure, etc.-you are going to have to support your assertion that most have mental illness. Anyway, it is a city council position and she won’t be making decisions on her own, it will be a consensus with other council members.

Fervent · 2025-11-08T18:22:23-0600

Landon Caeli said:
Exactly. Murder is no worse than any other "wrong" thing. It's 2025 people, wake up.

But you see, 34 is more than 1. So if we give them 34 pennies, they will gladly give us 1 $100 bill.

Hentenza · 2025-11-08T18:36:21-0600

comana said:
I still don’t see how it will affect decision making now.

She served her punishment, owns her crime and expresses remorse, has rehabilitated herself from addiction and wants to give back her community through public service.

You don’t agree that violent murder is more serious? Curious.

comana said:
Does she need to spend the rest of her of her life as a social pariah to satisfy you?

Satisfy me? She could be doing something that has nothing to do with making decisions for the people of a city.

Aryeh Jay · 2025-11-08T18:42:51-0600

Hentenza said:
True but violent murder is a bit more serious.

Which is why she was charged with manslaughter, the most serious sounding charge.

Aryeh Jay · 2025-11-08T18:43:59-0600

BCP1928 said:
Why a Democrat? Shouldn't the committee be made up entirely of real true patriots?

Because everyone deserves to have a voice, this is America.

Fervent · 2025-11-08T18:44:41-0600

Aryeh Jay said:
Which is why she was charged with manslaughter, the most serious sounding charge.

Mans laughter doesn't even sound like a crime

Hentenza · 2025-11-08T18:47:22-0600

Aryeh Jay said:
Which is why she was charged with manslaughter, the most serious sounding charge.

I can’t find the actual case but there is a penchant for prosecutors to deal in a case where the defendant is willing to plead guilty. She might have been charged with murder but pleaded down to manslaughter.

RocksInMyHead · 2025-11-08T18:56:49-0600

BCP1928 said:
Why a Democrat? Shouldn't the committee be made up entirely of real true patriots?

Bipartisanship is important.

comana · 2025-11-08T19:07:30-0600

Hentenza said:
You don’t agree that violent murder is more serious? Curious.

Satisfy me? She could be doing something that has nothing to do with making decisions for the people of a city.

I just don’ t se how it is a problem in this situation. What precludes her from making decisions?

As to murder, we bring back soldiers who kill and call them heroes. If taking a life causes irredeemable damage, and yes, many soldiers do it willfully, then why promote war veterans with kills as great citizens, even leaders?

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