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6,000 Years?
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I don't think Moses would have had "humanoids" in mind. Rather, it would just be mankind. But that's one option of many views that are out there. These topics have been debated for centuries in the church and several are compatible with a non-literal adam.
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Hi Job
Thank you for your postas for the age of the earth I don't we can know from scripture we have a time before the flood could be as long as science says it is then we have a time after the flood which I believe is 6000 years 7000 if we count the Fathers sabbath rest I believe we are coming to the end of the 6th day and the return of our Lord Jesus Christ to collect all believers into his body to present them to the Father.
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Hi
Not forgetting that we will al be part of Israel
Rom 11:17 And if some of the branches be broken off, and thou, being a wild olive tree, wert graffed in among them, and with them partakest of the root and fatness of the olive tree;
So will we all become Israelites to be part of the body of Christ which he will present to the Father
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That's funny, I thought we pretty much have what Moses had in mind. Written in Genesis and elsewhere. With nothing even remotely like what you said above anywhere. Do you have some writings of his the rest of us are not privy to? Or some translation of scripture that actually supports that view? Or do you mean to speak of just what many different people think, rather than to address what was actually written, recorded, and preserved?
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I'm pretty sure Genesis 1 says that God created mankind. It doesn't say anything about Adam and Eve. Sorry if you've never read the Bible before.
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I thought this was an interesting video. Though I do not agree with this man's theory regarding the formation of the spherical shapes he addresses. I think it much more likely they were formed rapidly in fast moving large amounts of water and or mud. As so very much of what we observe today has been rightly attributed to, in more recent observations. Also, there were actually far more elongated formations visible in the video which looked far more like tree trunks which he did not address.
The above video addresses rounded rock formations as well, admitting of the likelihood of a watery formation, as we may observe such to be true. While we may not observe the millions of years theories expounded in the prior video and this one itself as well. I find it more logical to establish theories based upon that which we can observe and test before our very eyes, than theories based upon supposed unobservable deep time scenarios. We now know that a very great deal of what we observe concerning both geography and fossilization, is directly due to processes of rapid formation in relation to catastrophic flood and or pyroclastic flows.
The following are links regarding far more rapid spherical formations.
Moeraki boulders new zealand
Moeraki boulders, concretions, New Zealand, The Moeraki Boulders on a beach on the South Island of New Zealand are giant concretions that formed toward the end of the biblical Flood.
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Yea, Genesis has 50 chapters, not one.
Gen 2:15 And the LORD God took the man, and put him into the garden of Eden to dress it and to keep it. 16 And the LORD God commanded the man, saying, Of every tree of the garden thou mayest freely eat: 17 But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die. 18 And the LORD God said, It is not good that the man should be alone; I will make him an help meet for him...........................
21 And the LORD God caused a deep sleep to fall upon Adam, and he slept: and he took one of his ribs, and closed up the flesh instead thereof; 22 And the rib, which the LORD God had taken from man, made he a woman, and brought her unto the man. 23 And Adam said, This is now bone of my bones, and flesh of my flesh: she shall be called Woman, because she was taken out of Man. 24 Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh.
Did not Moses also write the above? Choosing to ignore it, does not make it go away.
Luk 3:38 Which was the son of Enos, which was the son of Seth, which was the son of Adam, which was the son of God.
1Co 15:45 And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit. 46 Howbeit that was not first which is spiritual, but that which is natural; and afterward that which is spiritual. 47 The first man is of the earth, earthy: the second man is the Lord from heaven.
The bible does not support the idea that God created a human population from the beginning anywhere. It plainly states that He created the parents of humanity, intending that they be fruitful and multiply upon the earth.
Gen 1:27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them. 28 And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.
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Interesting short video examining just a few possible pre flood remnance, of tech and civilizations. A great deal of which exists the world over. Many of the remnance appearing to be imprints left in stone formed after the flood muds and or pyroclastic events of the global flood. As apposed to literal ruins, which are long gone.
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Yup, and all that happens after chapter 1. That's chapter 2.
Wow, Jesus was the second man to be born? Oh wait, that's not about biology.
It doesn't say that God created "parents". It says "them". That's all.
Genesis 1:27 NIV
[27] So God created mankind in his own image, in the image of God he created them; male and female he created them.
In Hebrew, Genesis 1:27 does use a singular masculine pronoun often translated as "him" (אוֹתוֹ, oto), but this does not refer to a single individual person named Adam. Instead, it refers back to the word אָדָם (adam), which means "man" or "humanity" in a general sense. The singular pronoun "him" is used because adam is grammatically masculine singular. However, the verse immediately clarifies that both male and female were created by using the plural pronoun "them" (אוֹתָם, otam), indicating that the image of God is shared by all humans, male and female, not just 1 single man. So, the "him" in the verse is not about one individual alone but refers to humanity as a whole.
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So what we’ve learned thus far is all the evidence shows that the universe and earth are billions of years old, there is no proof or logical evidence that it’s 6,000 years old, some of the YEC here acknowledge that that’s where the evidence points but because THEIR INTERPRETATION of the Bible says otherwise, people go with a YEC point of view anyway? Correct?
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Hi the earth is most probably as old as science says it is and God created everything as he says he did before the flood he also destroyed everything he created before the flood except for Noah and everything on the ark so when Noah stepped of the ark it was a new beginning the only thing missing was man in the image of God and God set about rectifying this his first man in his image he created was Israel the man of flesh which must come first not a success he then created the spiritual man Jesus Christ the spiritual man which is Christ the head and his body which consists of all those whom believed in him his body the multitude of believers that he would present to the Father on his return this is man ( mankind) in the image of God.
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Love and Peace
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I think that, well we all know this deep down, that the issue goes beyond mere interpretation. It stems into a deep seated issue of identity. What VBS you've been raised in, your community. What you've taught your kids. What your mentors have shown you and how much they've inspired you. Your church family connections and identity. Reputation, pride, cultural identity.
Oh, and money. YEC apologetics ministries are heavily funded by hundreds of millions of dollars in sales of YEC products and donations.
If it were merely a matter of examining evidence, YEC would have long disappeared. But no, it's a fight over identity. And if people spend their whole lives believing YECism, what would it mean for them to not know who or what they truly are or where they came from, or when?
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