Republicans are exploring a shift away from pro-life strategy after election losses

Aaron112 said:

Is anything on a forum not propaganda?
Is anything in the news not propaganda ?

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yes.

'Won't work': Kellyanne Conway's last-ditch plan to soften GOP abortion image panned​

Former Trump White House counselor Kellyanne Conway is on Capitol Hill this week pushing a plan to soften the Republican Party's stance on abortion by trying to get Republicans to talk up their support for contraception.

Independent Women’s Voice CEO Heather Higgins [joins Conway in this effort]. "Republicans are like your uncle, who really loves you and loves the women in his family, but he’s bad about showing it,” she told the publication.

[With friends like these.... great job likening the GOP to an older male relative.]

At least someone in the GOP is willing to soften their stance on abortion in the face of public reaction.

Abortion bill to be withdrawn after sponsor says it was ‘mischaracterized’

One of the bills filed by freshman legislator Rep. Bob Titus (R-Billings) would make it so a woman who receives an abortion in Missouri could face first-degree murder charges.

Late Tuesday evening, Titus told ABC 17 he is withdrawing the bill after it was "mischaracterized" in the news.

essentialsaltes said:

[With friends like these.... great job likening the GOP to an older male relative.]

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...an older abusive male relative more like.

Handmaid for Jesus said:

...an older abusive male relative more like.

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One that thinks females are incapable of making big important decisions, and sees themselves as the person better qualified to make those decisions for you.

For the first time in more than a decade, Sen. Graham hasn't introduced a national abortion ban​

Sen. Lindsey Graham has introduced a federal abortion ban bill every Congress since 2013. As Republicans scramble on abortion messaging, his legislation is conspicuously absent.

n each of the last five full sessions of Congress, dating to 2013, he proposed legislation to ban abortion at 20 weeks. After the Supreme Court struck down Roe v. Wade, he triumphantly announced new legislation to ban abortion at 15 weeks, irking some of his colleaguesby doing so less than two months before the 2022 midterm elections.

[Asked about the lack of a bill this time around] “I haven’t even thought about it,” Graham said in a brief interview in December.

As the Republican Party grapples with the issue, some prominent Senate candidates are backing away from their past statements on abortion rights, now saying they wouldn’t support bans after having lauded abortion restrictions in the past.

Nevada Republican Senate hopeful Sam Brown announced last weekhe wouldn’t support a federal ban on abortion, citing his wife Amy’s experience having an abortion before their marriage.

Democrat who ran heavily on abortion rights, IVF wins Alabama special election in state House race​

Marilyn Lands won a decisive victory in a state House district that Donald Trump narrowly won in 2020​

Democrat Marilyn Lands on Tuesday decisively won an Alabama state House seat in a long-held Republican district, notching a special-election victory after centering her campaign on promoting access to abortion and in vitro fertilization.

Lands beat Republican Teddy Powell by a wide margin — about 25 percentage points — in a politically moderate section of northern Alabama that Donald Trump won by a single percentage point in 2020.

Lands bet her campaign that voters in the suburban district were angry about the state’s strict ban on most abortions and the Alabama Supreme Court’s recent ruling that frozen embryos created through IVF were people, a decision that temporarily halted the medical procedure in the state and affected many families planning to use IVF to have a baby.

Powell, a Madison City Council member and retired Pentagon budget analyst, tried to avoid abortion and IVF as he ran for the seat and accused his opponent of trying to turn the contest into a national one while he focused on local issues such as fixing roads and schools. He joins a growing list of Republicans that have struggled to navigate the abortion debate politically in the post-Roe era.

Voters have supported abortion rights on ballot initiatives all over the country, including in conservative-leaning states such as Kansas, Ohio and Kentucky.

From a strategic standpoint, it makes sense for them to shift away from it.

It's not as if staunchly pro-life voters are going to magically flip and vote (D) by the GOP moderating their position on it. In terms of those particular voters, you don't have to as pro-life as they are, just noticeably more in that direction than the the other party.

A begrudging vote counts just as much as an enthusiastic one...

Roe v Wade should not have been overturned. Pro life can only truly be known on the individual level as part of knowing Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior which is a spiritual & evangelical, not secular, matter. If being pro abortion is so important, over other issues, to the secular mindset, then it must ultimately prefer death.

The Lord calls us to choose life over death ( Deuteronomy 30:11-20) which involves love of neighbor ( 1 John 2:7-11) but not to love the fallen world ( 1 John 2:15-17).

Lukaris said:

Roe v Wade should not have been overturned.

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The pro-lifers caught the car they had been running after screaming for decades. The people get to decide! So far every time they have gotten to decide without a gerrymander filter it had been to keep something similar to what we had under Roe oddly enough…

essentialsaltes said:

Democrat who ran heavily on abortion rights, IVF wins Alabama special election in state House race​

Marilyn Lands won a decisive victory in a state House district that Donald Trump narrowly won in 2020​

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Interesting note on fundraising in that race.

In rare competitive Alabama election, Democrat focuses on reproductive rights, outraises Republican​

Marilyn Lands, a licensed counselor and the Democrat in a special election in Madison, received $236,465 in donations since August of 2023. About 84% of that comes from individual donors.

She leads Republican Teddy Powell, a city councilman in Madison, by more than $69,000, according to the Alabama Fair Campaign Practices Act database. Powell received three quarters of his support from PACs and business groups.

Power to the people!

Lukaris said:

Roe v Wade should not have been overturned. Pro life can only truly be known on the individual level as part of knowing Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior which is a spiritual & evangelical, not secular, matter. If being pro abortion is so important, over other issues, to the secular mindset, then it must ultimately prefer death.

The Lord calls us to choose life over death ( Deuteronomy 30:11-20) which involves love of neighbor ( 1 John 2:7-11) but not to love the fallen world ( 1 John 2:15-17).

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I have given up on our society reflecting a consistent, life-affirming ethic of any kind. American society is driven by the profit motive and greed. That's what makes this country tick. People will choose money and power over even their own health. So it's not surprising our society isn't really on board with a Pro-Life ethic except when it's politically useful to do so. Abortion is just one tip of a very deep iceberg, and not even necessarily the most salient one.

Record number say abortion should be legal: Fox News Poll​

Per the Hill: A record 59 percent of surveyed Americans believe abortion should be legal ... The 59 percent figure is a significant increase from the April 2022 record low of 44 percent in an identical Fox News poll.

hislegacy said:

Let's read the link just a little:

At a closed-door meeting of Senate Republicans this week, the head of a super PAC closely aligned with Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell, R-Ky., presented poll results that suggested voters are reacting differently to commonly used terms like “pro-life” and “pro-choice” in the wake of last year’s Supreme Court decision that overturned Roe v. Wade, said several senators who were in the room.​

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Sure sounds like they are talking about changing terminology. That shows in the title:

Republicans are trying to find a new term for ‘pro-life’ to stave off more electoral losses.​

Not change position - not suddenly become pro choice - but changing terminology. The propaganda coming from the left, if anything, is effective in demonizing terms for people they do not agree with. This speaks strategy for new terminology not demonized.

another quote from the link:

“What intrigued me the most about the results was that ‘pro-choice’ and ‘pro-life’ means something different now, that people see being pro-life as being against all abortions ... at all levels,” Sen. Kevin Cramer, R-N.D., said in an interview Thursday.​

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and another showing that they are speaking of changing terminology:

Asked whether senators were encouraged to use a term other than “pro-life,” Young said his “pro-baby” descriptor “was just a term of my creation to demonstrate my concern for babies.”​

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So, before we start worrying - or glad handing - NO the Republicans are not changing their stance on abortion (thank you Jesus!), just looking at changing terminology.

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This is 100% correct. They are not changing their position. They are looking for new terminology to gaslight voters into believing they have softened or changed their position. In other words, they are seeking to deceive voters.

Kellyanne Conway is already trying out a 15 week minimum national standard. It is actually a maximum standard. If a state has less than 15 week ban, they can keep it, but if a state matches roe of 23 weeks, they'd be forced to change to 15 weeks.

The MSN article about this says she wants to focus on using contraceptives, but many groups want to ban those, also. MSN

Difference between 15/24 weeks.

LEAKED VIDEO: Texas Republicans Attended Meeting with Group That Suggested Violence and Jail For Women who Have Abortions and Use IVF


AUSTIN, Texas – Leaked video shows Hood County Constable Scott London, Hood County GOP Chair Steve Biggers and Hood County GOP Chair candidate Greg Harrell attending a meeting held by Abolish Abortion Texas (AATX) where they supported the death penalty for women who seek abortions or use IVF, including pregnant minors. London and Harrel have also signed onto a pledge from the same group vowing to abolish all circumstances of abortion care in Texas.

Gee.
It would just be so easy to invalidate women's suffrage and outlaw abortion.
I think Alito and Thomas would be on board, and voter suppression is the GOP's winning formula.

Fantine said:

Gee.
It would just be so easy to invalidate women's suffrage and outlaw abortion.
I think Alito and Thomas would be on board, and voter suppression is the GOP's winning formula.

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The ultimate original intent ruling. If the founders intended for women to vote they would have made that clear so away with that amendment.

It's been obvious for a long time that they can't win while taking a hard line on this issue. I ignore hardliners. I'm prolife and prochoice and always want to see reasonable limits on everything, but right now abortion regulation is not at the top of the list when everything else is falling apart. I guess I might not be an R much longer, I may have go Independent.