Republicans are exploring a shift away from pro-life strategy after election losses

[Hans Blaster]

You are confusing the ones that are out and proud about it and not considering the ones that are bringing in communist policies while claiming that are socialists. (democrats)

What is the point of having a discussion with someone who thinks the Democrats are all socialists (or that all socialists are communists)?

Karl Marx said that socialism is the stepping stone to communism as when a country cannot be overthrown into communism immediately, then plan B is to bring in socialism and gradually move a nation in to communism which is what has been happening in the US ever since the fall of Senator McCarthy back in the 50s... turns out he was right all along!

That fascist? No need to give Tail-gunner Joe any credit for anything.

Thinking of voting for the communist are we?

I doubt the Communists will even be on the ballot, plus I can't stand them anyway.

The problem is most American citizens are demonic including most who claim to be Christians since they follow a fake jesus and preach a different gospel... the "me first" gospel

I avoid that by not being "me first" or by preaching any gospel (or claiming to be Christian). It keeps the demons away.

 

[RocK Guy]

What is the point of having a discussion with someone who thinks the Democrats are all socialists (or that all socialists are communists)?

It would be a good way to learn the truth about the satanic liberal agenda

That fascist? No need to give Tail-gunner Joe any credit for anything.

Those that favor communism always did have a problem with Senator McCarthy since he told the truth about the communists who are the true fascists

I doubt the Communists will even be on the ballot, plus I can't stand them anyway.

Sure they will... just look under "Democrats"

I avoid that by not being "me first" or by preaching any gospel (or claiming to be Christian). It keeps the demons away.

Well, unbelievers are blind anyhow so they don't know what's going on.

 

[Fantine]

My read on Republicans is that most are more interested in pandering to the 1% with tax cuts, deregulation, etc. than with social conservatism...but they have figured out that they can't win an election by passing policies that only favor the 1% and saying to the rest of us "let them eat cake."

So how do they get a critical number of the 99% to ignore their inadequate health care, burdensome student loans, low wages, lack of worker protections, climactic disasters, etc.?

They look for those who prioritize issues like abortion, guns (shudder, ugh), and restricting LGBTQ rights and pray that will get them a victory.

Ugh.

 

[RocK Guy]

inadequate health care, burdensome student loans, low wages, lack of worker protections, climactic disasters

Those are all things big government liberals worry about

That's the problem with the repubs is most of them are turning in to liberals.

They look for those who prioritize issues like abortion, guns (shudder, ugh), and restricting LGBTQ rights

True Christians oppose abortion, support the ability for citizens to protect themselves, and oppose sexual perversion.

 

[wing2000]

That's the problem with the repubs is most of them are turning in to liberals.

“So Florida’s probably going to change, Arizona’s going to definitely change,” Trump said Wednesday, while continuing to punt on saying what specifically should be done about the bans. “Everybody wants that to happen.”

“This will be fixed in the next week or two; let not your heart be troubled,” Fox News host Sean Hannity added Wednesday night of the Arizona ban. “I can — I can pretty much assure that that will happen.”

....better get Trump and Hannity in line.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2024/04/11/arizona-florida-will-fix-abortion-bans-trump-predicts-not-so-fast/

 

[durangodawood]

Look at the things they teach that are not in God's Word and you tell me.

The question becomes, can we believe and practice things God does not teach in His Word and still be a Christian?

All Christians pick and choose. They ignore this Bible verse in favor of that one according to the ideology they were taught. Or personal desires. Nothing special there.

 

[rambot]

The new testament teaches us that murder and sexual perversion is sinful behavior.

It also teaches us that the "value" of a fetus and the "value" of the mother are NOT equal.

Numbers also says that, as a test of fidelity for a woman who's man expects "went astray", a potential abortion would happen as part of that test.

So it doesn't sound like the OT actually has all THAT great of a view on a fetus.

 

[camille70]

You would do your own research if you were actually interested, so why would I waste my time?

You said dems were targeting people and then you said the liberal media. That covers a lot of territory. I am asking for an example so that I can research it, as I am not aware. There are many things said to be targeting Christians, such as the recent Easter egg hunt policy and the trans day of visibility. Come to find out though, that the dems and Biden had nothing to do with the egg rules and that the tdov had been on March 31st for 15 years. Reputable publications, and even some of the shady ones, issued a retraction, but how many people saw it?

There are a lot of things I don't like about how some liberals speak about Christians, often mocking the faith, but I don't usually see that in MSM. A lot of the respect that has been lost toward the Church is because of the behavior of self professed Christians. Even non believers know about, can recognize and can judge Fruit.

A few rants I've had on social media may even cause some to believe that I'm not Christian, but being mad about hypocrisy in the Church, lack of discernment and how fellow Christians are being manipulated for political ends could come across like that.

So again, do you have a specific example I can look into, or is this just general dissatisfaction with dems and liberal policies?

 

[NxNW]

Yeah, that kind of thinking comes from a darkened mind that is not the Mind of Christ.

Are you professing to know who is and is not a Christian?

Babies are innocent

I thought the Bible states that none are righteous? Is that incorrect?

and murdering them is an abomination unto the Lord as those supporting abortion will soon find out first hand what the punishment for that involved... fire and being tormented

How soon?

You realize that all the abortions in the world are trivial compared the the number of miscarriages, right?

 

[camille70]

Google it




Matthew 7:18-20
A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.
Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.
Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.




That's AFTER they are born and become aware of what is right and wrong.

God did not make any babies to be sinner as the calvinists falsely claim:
Psalm 106:37,38; Jeremiah 19:4,5 - In sacrificing babies to idols, people shed the blood of innocent people.
But if the babies inherited Adam's sin, they would be guilty and worthy of death. [cf. Jer. 32:35]

Romans 7:9 - Paul (representative of people in general) was alive before sin came, but then he died. How, if people are totally depraved since birth? (cf. v11)

Matthew 19:14; 18:3 - The kingdom of God belongs to those who are converted and become like little children. But if little children are totally depraved, why should we become like them? Does conversion make us totally depraved?

Jesus prayed for children and blessed them (Mark 10:14-16), but He did not baptize them. They did not need baptism, because they were acceptable just as they were. But how could this be if they were born total depraved?




Abortion is intentional murder of an innocent child in God's eyes, it is in fact shedding innocent blood.
Those that have the Spirit of the Lord in them know this instinctively

It's very telling when someone claims to be a Christian but they see no problem with killing innocent little babies. That makes one a tare and not wheat.

Those that are not Christians of course have no idea what is right before the Lord and what is not since they don't know Him at all.

Well while I'm googling, why don't you do a search for "sin nature". David said he was sinful from the time his mother conceived him and that from birth the wicked go astray.

 

[FreeinChrist]

ADVISOR HAT

This thread had a clean up of some problem posts.

Remember the flaming rule​

 

[essentialsaltes]

Since then, he's flirted with endorsing a national ban, but now that things are sewn up...

Trump says abortion should be left to states, declines to endorse national ban​

'Betrayed': Mike Pence says he's 'deeply disappointed' in Donald Trump over abortion stance​

Pence in an opinion essay in the New York Times published Saturday said his role in overturning Roe v. Wade was an accomplishment he was “perhaps most proud” of during his time as vice president. The Trump administration appointed three justices to the Supreme Court who rejected the landmark decision that previously guaranteed the right to an abortion from coast to coast.

But Pence in his op-ed alleged that Trump was no longer committed to the cause.

Pence, who has long supported an abortion ban after 15 weeks, said he was “deeply disappointed” with Trump’s statement.

“Now, not only is Mr. Trump retreating from that position; he is leading other Republicans astray,” Pence wrote, adding that other Republican leaders have and could follow Trump’s lead. The former vice president also accused Trump of betraying anti-abortion causes.

 

[Pommer]

'Betrayed': Mike Pence says he's 'deeply disappointed' in Donald Trump over abortion stance​

Pence in an opinion essay in the New York Times published Saturday said his role in overturning Roe v. Wade was an accomplishment he was “perhaps most proud” of during his time as vice president. The Trump administration appointed three justices to the Supreme Court who rejected the landmark decision that previously guaranteed the right to an abortion from coast to coast.

But Pence in his op-ed alleged that Trump was no longer committed to the cause.

Pence, who has long supported an abortion ban after 15 weeks, said he was “deeply disappointed” with Trump’s statement.

“Now, not only is Mr. Trump retreating from that position; he is leading other Republicans astray,” Pence wrote, adding that other Republican leaders have and could follow Trump’s lead. The former vice president also accused Trump of betraying anti-abortion causes.

Pence disappointed Trump first.