Paulomycin,
The problem is that Jesus taught that one needs to keep certain commandments to get to heaven. This goes against Calvinistic teaching. Your efforts to resolve that dilemma are not looking very good.
It's not your fault. The problem is that your position is hopeless.
You say this in response to:
Was he [Jesus] really saying, "If thou wilt be perfect, go and sell that thou hast, and give to the poor, and then do a whole lot of other things, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven"?
I see that you totally evaded the question. The point is that you seem to be adding in the fine print (which does not appear in the Bible). It appears that you insert this fine print into the Bible to make the verse work for you. You can't do that. You need to go by what the Bible actually says.
In addition to that fine print, you also refer to an exception which you didn't mention here. So you really seem to have Jesus saying:
"If thou wilt be perfect, go and sell that thou hast, and give to the poor, and then do a whole lot of other things, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven, but there is a different way to get to heaven without doing any of that.
But sorry, if you read Matthew, that fine print is in no way implied.
If Jesus had said "don't hoard wealth" we would all agree. But Jesus did not say that. He said, "sell that thou hast, and give to the poor."
If he sold half, would he be completely following this? No, he would still have some stuff, and would need to sell more. And if he sold half again? He still has stuff. Does he need to keep on selling until he has no more stuff?
You say this in response to, "Do we or do we not need to sell all that we have to get to heaven?"
But then later you say we don't need to keep all the commandments to go to heaven.
So your answer seems to be:
Yes, we do need to sell all that we have, but there is an exception, so no we don't really need to sell all that we have.
So your answer appears to be "no", even though you say "yes".
Full stop.
You just negated everything you said above about needing to keep the law to get to heaven.
You just admitted you think there is a way to get to heaven without keeping the law. Which contradicts everything you said about needing to keep the law.
Some people teach that this "way around it" involves absolutely no demand on what we do. Others say it puts immense burden on what we do, because we need to surrender to Jesus as Lord. Surrendering to Jesus as Lord must surely mean doing everything he commands. And since he commands to keep the whole law, then this "exception" really ends up putting you back to needing to keep the whole law.
Some see this problem, and say "lordship salvation" is a heresy.
You are responding to: "Everybody who breaks one of the laws of Moses burns in hell forever? "
And once more, it appears you really mean "Everybody who breaks one of the laws of Moses burns in hell forever, but there is an exception, so no, you won't necessarily burn in hell if you break a law. "
Why do you say yes when you mean no?
So now you are back on your exception.
Does salvation by grace include surrendering to Jesus as Lord, and thus doing everything he commands? In that case, it is not actually an exception from needing to follow these laws.
So is it an exception from the need to follow all these laws or isn't it?
Where does the Bible say the moral law applies and the ceremonial law does not? I couldn't even find the words "moral law" and "ceremonial law" in my version of the Bible.
If some laws are "moral laws" and some are "ceremonial laws" where does the Bible explain which is which?
Neither link shows anywhere in the Bible where some laws are said to be moral, some ceremonial, and some civil. Both links simply impose it on the Bible without any verses to back them up.
Your second link actually lists laws as moral, ceremonial, or civil. The list of laws that are not listed as "moral" include kidnapping, murder, and robbery.
If we only need to follow the "moral" laws, and your links lists these as civil laws that "expired with the demise of the Jewish civil government", then are kidnapping, murder, and robbery now permitted?
