Is the star of Bethlehem making a comeback?

Neostarwcc · Dec 19, 2020

The Star of Bethlehem: Can science explain what it really was?

So it's all over the news, I'm sure everyone has heard it was coming by now. Apparently Jupiter and Saturn are coming together for the first time in 800 years (Apparently the last time this happened before the 800 years, Jesus was born and the star appeared in the sky to fulfill Biblical Prophecy) and they're calling it the Star of Bethlehem. Is this really the Star of Bethlehem that appeared in the sky when Christ was born? If yes, how will this effect end time prophecy? If no, how will this effect end times as well since, a hoax "Star of Bethlehem" is appearing in the sky? What are your thoughts?

Jonathan Walkerin · Dec 19, 2020

Neostarwcc said:
Apparently Jupiter and Saturn are coming together for the first time in 800 years (Apparently the last time this happened before the 800 years, Jesus was born and the star appeared in the sky to fulfill Biblical Prophecy)

Nothing in the article says that. They only mention it could have been something similar.

They also mention

“Perhaps it was a supernova, a comet, a solar flare or an alignment of planets. Or, alternatively, maybe it never happened at all. The truth is, science will likely never know the truth.”

So there is no evidence that this is an indication of anything at all.

Neostarwcc · Dec 19, 2020

Jonathan Walkerin said:
Nothing in the article says that. They only mention it could have been something similar.

They also mention

“Perhaps it was a supernova, a comet, a solar flare or an alignment of planets. Or, alternatively, maybe it never happened at all. The truth is, science will likely never know the truth.”

So there is no evidence that this is an indication of anything at all.

Well it was an article written by atheists so of course they're going to try to disprove that there was actually a Star of Bethlehem that existed 800 years ago and when Christ was born and that this Star being called the Star of Bethlehem is not in fact, the star. Everyone knows the news I was just wondering what everyone's thought was on the phenomenon. Because, this hasn't happened in 800 years.

Jonathan Walkerin · Dec 19, 2020

Neostarwcc said:
Everyone knows the news I was just wondering what everyone's thought was on the phenomenon. Because, this hasn't happened in 800 years.

You know the planetary conjugation are predictable, they aren’t rare and they don’t really affect anything ?

This might help. It is under 3 mins so I won’t summarize it any further.

d taylor · Dec 19, 2020

Neostarwcc said:
The Star of Bethlehem: Can science explain what it really was?

So it's all over the news, I'm sure everyone has heard it was coming by now. Apparently Jupiter and Saturn are coming together for the first time in 800 years (Apparently the last time this happened before the 800 years, Jesus was born and the star appeared in the sky to fulfill Biblical Prophecy) and they're calling it the Star of Bethlehem. Is this really the Star of Bethlehem that appeared in the sky when Christ was born? If yes, how will this effect end time prophecy? If no, how will this effect end times as well since, a hoax "Star of Bethlehem" is appearing in the sky? What are your thoughts?

It is amazing how deceived christians are by science.
The Bible states that a star, not some combination of two stars etc.. rose and guided the wise men to The Messiah. Then The Messiah's star stopped over where The Messiah was.

When will christians stop believing the lies of science, that stars are these huge suns trillions of miles away in an outer space. And believe their God and His given creation account in The Bible about the sun, moon, stars, the earth, the raqia.

After they had heard the king, they went on their way, and the star they had seen when it rose went ahead of them until it stopped over the place where the child was.

Read this verse above till you can believe it

Jonathan Walkerin · Dec 19, 2020

d taylor said:
When will christians stop believing the lies of science, that stars are these huge suns trillions of miles away in an outer space.

The outer space denial is refreshing change of pace from Covid19 and election denial.

UnpopularOpinion · Dec 19, 2020

About the Star , can somebody actually give me Scripture which tells the prophecy of Jesus's star ? I tried to look in canon Scriptures but can't find it anywhere.

UnpopularOpinion · Dec 19, 2020

d taylor said:
It is amazing how deceived christians are by science.
The Bible states that a star, not some combination of two stars etc.. rose and guided the wise men to The Messiah. Then The Messiah's star stopped over where The Messiah was.

When will christians stop believing the lies of science, that stars are these huge suns trillions of miles away in an outer space. And believe their God and His given creation account in The Bible about the sun, moon, stars, the earth, the raqia.

After they had heard the king, they went on their way, and the star they had seen when it rose went ahead of them until it stopped over the place where the child was.

Read this verse above till you can believe it

Star = angel in this passage

d taylor · Dec 19, 2020

UnpopularOpinion said:
About the Star , can somebody actually give me Scripture which tells the prophecy of Jesus's star ? I tried to look in canon Scriptures but can't find it anywhere.

“I see him, but not now;
I behold him, but not near.
A star will come out of Jacob;
a scepter will rise out of Israel.
He will crush the foreheads of Moab,
the skulls of all the people of Sheth.

Balaam's reluctant, but divinely inspired, prophecy, revealed that a unique Star associated with Israel would accompany a future Sceptre (that is, King) who would eventually rule the world.

d taylor · Dec 19, 2020

UnpopularOpinion said:
Star = angel in this passage

Do not agree. I know the Bible uses stars and angels sometimes interchangeably.

But do you say it is an angel because you believe stars to be suns trillions of miles away. If so then that is not the stars of the Bible, that God created.

Redwingfan9 · Dec 19, 2020

Neostarwcc said:
The Star of Bethlehem: Can science explain what it really was?

So it's all over the news, I'm sure everyone has heard it was coming by now. Apparently Jupiter and Saturn are coming together for the first time in 800 years (Apparently the last time this happened before the 800 years, Jesus was born and the star appeared in the sky to fulfill Biblical Prophecy) and they're calling it the Star of Bethlehem. Is this really the Star of Bethlehem that appeared in the sky when Christ was born? If yes, how will this effect end time prophecy? If no, how will this effect end times as well since, a hoax "Star of Bethlehem" is appearing in the sky? What are your thoughts?

There is no evidence whatsoever that these two planets made up the star seen in scripture. It's far more likely that the star was a one off event created by God for that particular purpose.

As for end times, any attempt to connect this planet situation to end times is further evidence of the folly of man trying to wedge modern events into scripture. We shouldn't waste our time, there are more profitable things for us to focus on.

Guinan · Dec 19, 2020

Jonathan Walkerin said:
The outer space denial is refreshing change of pace from Covid19 and election denial.

I've encountered Flat Earth believing Christians online before and I finally came to the conclusion that there's no point wasting my time trying to reason with them. It's like trying to persuade a brick wall.

Neostarwcc · Dec 19, 2020

Redwingfan9 said:
There is no evidence whatsoever that these two planets made up the star seen in scripture. It's far more likely that the star was a one off event created by God for that particular purpose.

As for end times, any attempt to connect this planet situation to end times is further evidence of the folly of man trying to wedge modern events into scripture. We shouldn't waste our time, there are more profitable things for us to focus on.

True. But people 2,000 years ago had no way of knowing how the actual Star Of Bethlehem started or came to be. Isaiah technically never said how the Star would come into existance he just said it was going to be a sign of the messiah being born. One thing is for sure this upcoming Star is going to be beautiful. I can't wait to see it. If I miss it I'm sure youtube and the internet is going to be chuck full of videos and pictures of the star.

Neostarwcc · Dec 19, 2020

UnpopularOpinion said:
About the Star , can somebody actually give me Scripture which tells the prophecy of Jesus's star ? I tried to look in canon Scriptures but can't find it anywhere.

It was a prophecy made by Isaiah im not 100% sure where in the book of Isaiah it was. I'll look it up and get back to you.

*edit* actually im wrong its from the book of numbers not the book of Isaiah. Numbers 24:17.

Redwingfan9 · Dec 19, 2020

Neostarwcc said:
True. But people 2,000 years ago had no way of knowing how the actual Star Of Bethlehem started or came to be. Isaiah technically never said how the Star would come into existance he just said it was going to be a sign of the messiah being born. One thing is for sure this upcoming Star is going to be beautiful. I can't wait to see it. If I miss it I'm sure youtube and the internet is going to be chuck full of videos and pictures of the star.

I'm interested in the current planet situation in the sky, I'm sure it will be quite beautiful. However, there's no real evidence this is the star seen at the birth of Jesus.

Neostarwcc · Dec 19, 2020

Redwingfan9 said:
I'm interested in the current planet situation in the sky, I'm sure it will be quite beautiful. However, there's no real evidence this is the star seen at the birth of Jesus.

No I guess not. Its all just speculation at this point since there's no way of proving how the actual Star Of Bethlehem came to be. If it is the Star Of Bethlehem though, I'd imagine something is coming.

CatsRule2020 · Dec 19, 2020

For years many thought that this 'star' had to be an alignment of planets. However, with what has been made known of UFO research, we can be certain that this is what the Bible was depicting concerning the Bethlehem Star.

Thomas White · Dec 19, 2020

d taylor said:
Do not agree. I know the Bible uses stars and angels sometimes interchangeably.

But do you say it is an angel because you believe stars to be suns trillions of miles away. If so then that is not the stars of the Bible, that God created.

You can see stars. You can see stars are very far away. You can see similarities between those stars and the Sun. Are your eyes lying? As it so happens, observation is a key part of science.

We don't have to reject what God has made obvious.

d taylor · Dec 20, 2020

Thomas White said:
You can see stars. You can see stars are very far away. You can see similarities between those stars and the Sun. Are your eyes lying? As it so happens, observation is a key part of science.

We don't have to reject what God has made obvious.

stars and the sun, moon are far away but not 200,000+, millions, trillions of miles away.

God made three types of lights and placed them in the sky Genesis 1:17 (raqia, dome,1st heaven).

Two great lights sun and moon, then the stars are mentioned as also being created. Paul states they each have their own glory and that each star differs for each star in glory.

There is one glory of the sun, another glory of the moon, and another glory of the stars; for one star differs from another star in glory.

Thomas White · Dec 20, 2020

d taylor said:
stars and the sun, moon are far away but not 200,000+, millions, trillions of miles away.

God made three types of lights and placed them in the sky Genesis 1:17 (raqia, dome,1st heaven).

Two great lights sun and moon, then the stars are mentioned as also being created. Paul states they each have their own glory and that each star differs for each star in glory.

There is one glory of the sun, another glory of the moon, and another glory of the stars; for one star differs from another star in glory.

We've been to the moon. We know exactly how far it is. We have satellites soaring past Pluto. We can easily determine distance of some celestial bodies based on that alone. The satellites confirm that our math is correct.

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