BLM are self described Marxists

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Their ancestry was stolen by the Muslim/Arab slave trade in Africa which was in control. Europeans were brokers. Are their statues being torn down? No because they are smart enough to not have any. In the meantime for 50 years petty politics has kept blacks in turmoil long after MLK opened the doors to equality. With equality comes responsibility but most seem to want to prefer rights which has allowed them to be oppressed by a political wing that wants them to believe they are still unequal even though they have the rights. Now they say they want segregation. Times change. They need to set themselves free of political m manipulation.
It's an attempt to cause a division of races, not a coming together of races.
 
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Saul Alinsky wrote an epigraph describing the rebellious angel Lucifer as "the first radical known to man" in his book "Rules for Radicals."

Still like him?
Yes, LOL. I’ve read Rules for Radicals. It’s a literary reference. Not everyone believes that Lucifer is an actual being. Alinsky’s brilliant lessons on organizing are used by conservatives as well.
 
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I'm sure he was a good writer, but I'm not critiquing his writing skills, just the content.

So this is the content. Here are the rules

RULE 1: “Power is not only what you have, but what the enemy thinks you have.”

Power is derived from 2 main sources – money and people. “Have-Nots” must build power from flesh and blood. (These are two things of which there is a plentiful supply. Government and corporations always have a difficult time appealing to people, and usually do so almost exclusively with economic arguments.)



RULE 2: “Never go outside the expertise of your people.”

It results in confusion, fear and retreat. Feeling secure adds to the backbone of anyone. (Organizations under attack wonder why radicals don’t address the “real” issues. This is why. They avoid things with which they have no knowledge.)



RULE 3: “Whenever possible, go outside the expertise of the enemy.”

Look for ways to increase insecurity, anxiety and uncertainty. (This happens all the time. Watch how many organizations under attack are blind-sided by seemingly irrelevant arguments that they are then forced to address.)



RULE 4: “Make the enemy live up to its own book of rules.”

If the rule is that every letter gets a reply, send 30,000 letters. You can kill them with this because no one can possibly obey all of their own rules. (This is a serious rule. The besieged entity’s very credibility and reputation is at stake, because if activists catch it lying or not living up to its commitments, they can continue to chip away at the damage.)



RULE 5: “Ridicule is man’s most potent weapon.”

There is no defense. It’s irrational. It’s infuriating. It also works as a key pressure point to force the enemy into concessions. (Pretty crude, rude and mean, huh? They want to create anger and fear.)



RULE 6: “A good tactic is one your people enjoy.”

They’ll keep doing it without urging and come back to do more. They’re doing their thing, and will even suggest better ones. (Radical activists, in this sense, are no different that any other human being. We all avoid “un-fun” activities, and but we revel at and enjoy the ones that work and bring results.)



RULE 7: “A tactic that drags on too long becomes a drag.”

Don’t become old news. (Even radical activists get bored. So to keep them excited and involved, organizers are constantly coming up with new tactics.)



RULE 8: “Keep the pressure on. Never let up.”

Keep trying new things to keep the opposition off balance. As the opposition masters one approach, hit them from the flank with something new. (Attack, attack, attack from all sides, never giving the reeling organization a chance to rest, regroup, recover and re-strategize.)



RULE 9: “The threat is usually more terrifying than the thing itself.”

Imagination and ego can dream up many more consequences than any activist. (Perception is reality. Large organizations always prepare a worst-case scenario, something that may be furthest from the activists’ minds. The upshot is that the organization will expend enormous time and energy, creating in its own collective mind the direst of conclusions. The possibilities can easily poison the mind and result in demoralization.)



RULE 10: “If you push a negative hard enough, it will push through and become a positive.”

Violence from the other side can win the public to your side because the public sympathizes with the underdog. (Unions used this tactic. Peaceful [albeit loud] demonstrations during the heyday of unions in the early to mid-20th Century incurred management’s wrath, often in the form of violence that eventually brought public sympathy to their side.)



RULE 11: “The price of a successful attack is a constructive alternative.”

Never let the enemy score points because you’re caught without a solution to the problem. (Old saw: If you’re not part of the solution, you’re part of the problem. Activist organizations have an agenda, and their strategy is to hold a place at the table, to be given a forum to wield their power. So, they have to have a compromise solution.)



RULE 12: Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it.”

Cut off the support network and isolate the target from sympathy. Go after people and not institutions; people hurt faster than institutions. (This is cruel, but very effective. Direct, personalized criticism and ridicule works.)

So do these rules sound like they come from Christ or Lucifer who the author seems to admire by including him in his book?

And where is Christ mentioned in his book?
Why would you expect a Jewish man to mention Christ? Organizing isn’t a religious activity. The art of war doesn’t mention Christ either, that doesn’t mean the principles put forth aren’t true or useful. Both “The Art of War” and “Rules for Radicals” are about strategy, not salvation or philosophy.
 
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Since one of my great great grandmothers was a white person who herself had Scots ancestry , that’s a little silly . I’d be disrespectful of my own ancestry which would be stupid on my part as I carry her gene for blue eyes
 
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Isn't that racist? Definition of racist:
a person who shows or feels discrimination or prejudice against people of other races, or who believes that a particular race is superior to another.
forgot to add quote ( see # 45
 
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I feel that when you differentiate between the races, you just create more division. Equality, not one race over the other is the answer to ending racism.
 
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I feel that when you differentiate between the races, you just create more division. Equality, not one race over the other is the answer to ending racism.
I started a photo project once, Babies from different races all exhibiting the exact same facial expressions portraying various emotions. Hadn't had time to be taught differences yet.
 
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I started a photo project once, Babies from different races all exhibiting the exact same facial expressions portraying various emotions. Hadn't had time to be taught differences yet.
. Race in humans doesn’t exist . Homo sapiens doesn’t have enough genetic diversity to have races ( subspecies). It’s a silly social construct.
 
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I think it’s funny that the OP complains about Marxism . I had some distant cousins who were actual socialists during the 1930s up until they died about 20 years ago. When the USSR first opened its borders to regular tourists , they were invited to see the country . She talked about that trip for decades and I always wanted to go see some of those places ( even if some are no longer in Russia.)

I really think that conservatives who scream about socialism have no idea what they’re talking about
 
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Race in humans doesn’t exist . Homo sapiens doesn’t have enough genetic diversity to have races ( subspecies). It’s a silly social construct.
Agree. Now different intellectual capabilities among all humans, that's a different matter.
 
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I really think that conservatives who scream about socialism have no idea what they’re talking about
The interest is in defining anything other than capitalism as being the enemy. Putting others ahead of self is advantageous when accompanied by a tax break.
 
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Agree. Now different intellectual capabilities among all humans, that's a different matter.
. I’d suggest you read MISMEASURE OF MAN by SJ Gould . It will point out easily that this is a fallacy if you apply it to so called races and not individuals. Unless you’re talking about a different species like Homo erectus which probably did have a lower intellectual capacity than a modern human
 
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I think it's ironic that Karl Marx, the founder of Marxism was a racist.
most 19th century European“ gentlemen” were racists . It’s how they originally justified the slave trade
 
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Quote from Marx:
In 1887, Paul Lafargue, who was Marx's son-in-law, was a candidate for a council seat in a Paris district that contained a zoo. Engels claimed that Paul had "one eighth or one twelfth [cuss word] blood." In an April 1887 letter to Paul's wife, Engels wrote, "Being in his quality as a [cuss word], a degree nearer to the rest of the animal kingdom than the rest of us, he is undoubtedly the most appropriate representative of that district."
 
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