The problem with romantic relationships

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When you develop a strong relationship with God everything else seems meaningless.

:) It does seem like that. That is where you are. But it's not meaningless. It's the place He wants for you to do the work He needed to do in you. You don't have to force anything different on yourself. Be encouraged and keep going. It's good to be where you are when He calls you than doing something different to that. 1 Corinthians 7:20/1 Corinthians 7:24. There might come a time where God will make you feel something different when He is done preparing you for the next thing He has for you.

Nothing is meaningless to those that are in Christ. It's all is His work to conform us to His image according to His calling. He is faithful to finish the work He started. Some need to go through this until He brings out the genuine fruits in them. Everything changes when He makes us see the problem from His perspective.
 
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I don't know if we really knew what we wanted what we really were seeking if we would aim for a romantic relationship. I think a lot of the time we seek one because it's a norm for adults to do. If we took time to think about it away from the societal pressures maybe we wouldn't seek one.
 
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There might come a time where God will make you feel something different when He brings you the right women.

I still am attracted to women I see in public however I'm not as naive as I once was to think engaging in a relationship with any of them will somehow be the thing that fulfills in me what I am missing or was seeking. It's very easy to say well what I need is the right relationship and only then will I be fulfilled and all the previous relationships were just the wrong one. I think the real issue is relationships just can't do for us what we want them to, what God can do. Which leaves us with the option of seeking God or keep chasing relationships.
 
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Perhaps you should change your status to Celibate not Single if you feel that's where God is leading you. The latter keeps the door open. If you've closed it that's worth honoring. :)

Yours in His Service,

~Bella
 
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I don't know if we really knew what we wanted what we really were seeking if we would aim for a romantic relationship. I think a lot of the time we seek one because it's a norm for adults to do. If we took time to think about it away from the societal pressures maybe we wouldn't seek one.

I still am attracted to women I see in public however I'm not as naive as I once was to think engaging in a relationship with any of them will somehow be the thing that fulfills in me what I am missing or was seeking. It's very easy to say well what I need is the right relationship and only then will I be fulfilled and all the previous relationships were just the wrong one. I think the real issue is relationships just can't do for us what we want them to, what God can do. Which leaves us with the option of seeking God or keep chasing relationships.

No, the regenerated believers don't seek a relationship because it's a norm for adults. It's not about what we want rather more about why we want.

Until God really shows you that laying down your life for a spouse, in a marriage, equals laying down your life for Him...then that is all you would want to do and you would pursue it with that love for Him against all the problems they bring...that's how He wants a romantic relationship to work. You will learn How to fellowship with Him despite the problems and it grows stronger when times are hard. It's where your faith is in action and tested. Would you seek and love Him despite all the problems and distractions? That's a true relationship.

But you are not there yet since you say you do not know.
 
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I still am attracted to women I see in public however I'm not as naive as I once was to think engaging in a relationship with any of them will somehow be the thing that fulfills in me what I am missing or was seeking. It's very easy to say well what I need is the right relationship and only then will I be fulfilled and all the previous relationships were just the wrong one. I think the real issue is relationships just can't do for us what we want them to, what God can do. Which leaves us with the option of seeking God or keep chasing relationships.

Put it this way then- There might come a time where God will make you feel something different when He is done preparing you for the next thing He has for you, whatever it might be.

People, made in the image of God, are heavenly treasures too. That includes spouses and children. Your family could be your brothers and sisters in heaven.
 
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Perhaps you should change your status to Celibate not Single if you feel that's where God is leading you. The latter keeps the door open. If you've closed it that's worth honoring. :)

Yours in His Service,

~Bella

Well I don't know if I can since I'm still a young man and still have desires. With that being said those desires seem to be somewhat transmuted or on their way to being transmuted. I notice I don't find myself as talkative/needy as my youth and I think this is because I feel more at peace due to the holy spirit just overflowing in me.
 
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The truth can be painful but it's freeing too. :)

I've dealt with many people who were frozen. They couldn't move on because something was holding them back. They sabotaged relationships or walled themselves into fortresses to protect their heart and created a new depth of misery in that position. In every instance it was necessary to confront the hurt and let it out. Holding it in was killing them.

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~Bella

It's not a nice thing to face, which is why people put it off and bandage themselves up with an ego.

It's like cutting yourself open to allow for the poison to bleed out - it goes against our instincts to WANT to intentionally hurt ourselves, but if you allow the poison to remain, it'll slowly kill you. One year will very quickly convert to five, and before you know it, it's been twenty years and your feet are still rooted. Only NOW you're not a sapling, you're a great big oak tree.

I had a great time during my mid 20's, but I wouldn't advise anyone to follow that example now. When you've seen just about every sparkly skyline and tasted some of the finest spirits, eventually, you have to come home, sober back down and look in the mirror. And it ain't pretty. Because you realise that you're ability to love anyone (who isn't you) has been severely stifled. (I didn't talk to my mother for MONTHS at a time during the peak of this episode).

And before we talk about God's love, consider ALL of the channels His love takes. Because if ALL you have is 'self love' or JUST God's love, then you're excluding every other channel bar the one you're currently watching. In the end, you'll be very well aware that you're watching the same old movie over and over and over and over and OVER again.
 
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Well I don't know if I can since I'm still a young man and still have desires. With that being said those desires seem to be somewhat transmuted or on their way to being transmuted. I notice I don't find myself as talkative/needy as my youth and I think this is because I feel more at peace due to the holy spirit just overflowing in me.

IALOWW,

Have you considered the possibility the Lord is tempering them and bringing it under subjection? Partnership is meant to occur in conjunction with God. The three strand chord Proverbs refers to. We aren't supposed to take the Lone Ranger approach and go it alone. Our service is as unto the Lord. He's our guide and barometer. You can't have a happy union without Him.

You may be entering the spiritual nature of oneness and that's wonderful. When you understand the beauty of a divine union and recognize the impact you'll have on one another you'll broach it different. The alabaster jar shouldn't be broken amiss. We must have the Lord's direction in matters of the heart.

Perhaps the better thought is He's doing 'something' and you don't know what it is. But you like what's happening within you and the closeness you're developing with Him. If you distinguish it from your former position in your messages and explain what you're doing differently you may edify others in the process.

Alex is doing the same. It's great to see singles walking with God and embracing their season. :)

Yours in His Service,

~Bella
 
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And before we talk about God's love, consider ALL of the channels His love takes. Because if ALL you have is 'self love' or JUST God's love, then you're excluding every other channel bar the one you're currently watching.

Well you may have a point here and I may be obligated to find someone to share in this love I currently experience with God.
 
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Well you may have a point here and I may be obligated to find someone to share in this love I currently experience with God.

There's an element of getting yourself sorted first - I'll still preach that. But not to the extent that you're basically living life FOR it. Absolutely do what you need to do - as I say, I've had a great time during my younger days (and am still in no real rush) but when it goes too far it'll hurt you more than a failed marriage will.

So regularly check yourself. Self improvement extends into ALL areas of life. I'm still not convinced that long term celibacy is a healthy thing. There's SO many elements to love making that never get talked about - some that can even aid in the journey .
 
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It's like cutting yourself open to allow for the poison to bleed out - it goes against our instincts to WANT to intentionally hurt ourselves, but if you allow the poison to remain, it'll slowly kill you.

I alluded to that on my music thread and had a comment about bleeding but I took it off. Lest someone think I'm having issues. :p

I used it as a mechanism for healing with my friends and it was very helpful. No matter what happened during the day, there's a song which echoed the same. It allowed them to speak, process, and release the emotions. They were calmer afterward. It's also a good remedy against reactance. I've used it in the past for behavioral conditioning for myself.

One year will very quickly convert to five, and before you know it, it's been twenty years and your feet are still rooted. Only NOW you're not a sapling, you're a great big oak tree.

That requires a lot of unpacking and patience.

I had a great time during my mid 20's, but I wouldn't advise anyone to follow that example now.

My fun was tempered. I was always level-headed. But there are moments when my inner Blair W. rears her head. I confront the reality of my nature and know where the story ends. Although I don't say it aloud.

The most freeing gift I gave Bella was the liberty of forging alliances with others like myself. I could do more for God when I wasn't swimming against the tide or defending myself. :)

Yours in His Service,

~Bella
 
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I still am attracted to women I see in public however I'm not as naive as I once was.

Godly attraction is a different one. :) You are learning some important lessons. You've experienced why relationships are meaningless in themselves. You see how God alone is better than all that. That's good. As you grow deeper in your relationship with Christ, you will come out with a different perspective about relationships. You won't be idolizing relationships but would learn to put Christ in the center. You will be ready for more fruit.
 
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Theres a lot of places I could begin but I'll start with the fact you will inevitably get tired of the person you are with. What do you do once you see the person as they really are and not what you hoped they were?

How will you find time for God when romantic relationships require a significant majority of your time?

Why spend time for something that doesn't last forever when you could get a head start on building heavenly treasures with your heavenly father that does last forever?

Romantic relationships are meaningless. I'm sure king Solomon would agree with me. All relationships do is distract you from what matters, which is what lasts, the immaterial.

I made this thread to encourage people who aren't in relationships or who don't think they will ever get in one that theres something you could aim for that doesn't distract you from something much more valuable than a temporary relationship.

I feel like being in a relationship is like taking the blue pill and isn't real. I feel like if you really want to serve the Lord remember you can't serve two masters and you have the opportunity to go all in and get a head start on building up heavenly treasures and what could be more meaningful than that?

Choosing singleness so you can be with God as much as you can seems like a much more valuable and meaningful way to live. I feel spiritually heightened being single compared to when I was in a relationship where I devoted a significant amount of time that would have produced a larger harvest had it been serving and engaging in fellowship with the Lord .

You sound incredibly bitter.
 
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You sound incredibly bitter.

Well I can assure you it did not come from a bitter place but from love. If you heard me speak it you would not think I was bitter but I can't do anything about how attempting to find truth sounds.
 
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I'd like to share, from my observation and counseling over years, spending time with God, and the different people I've been blessed to be family and friends with. I also share, as one who has never had a romantic relationship with any woman, or even dared to ask one out on a date. This also is shared by someone who wants to serve the Lord, for the rest of his days here. This is my personal view point with God, but if there are any truths here for you, I hope you will turn to God and ask him to reveal it to your heart.

The world tells us the best relationship one can have, has to do with physical/intimate attraction. Sex. As long as we listen to the world, we won't be able to ask God to reveal his true design and blessings for each of us.

As followers of Jesus, our most important relationship, and the one above all else, should be with God. No matter what other relationships you have with others.

God starts each of us with a basic relationship. A family. Not all of us are lucky to be born to an ideal home. However, the blue print we have, are relationships as child, siblings and parents. Father/Mother, Son/Daughter, Brother/Sister. If we all call out to God as our Heavenly Father, that means by spirit we are all related. We aren't separated by flesh and blood anymore.

So to relate to being single, I had to stop looking for one true relationship, defined by physical intimacy. I can't share that with others. So I started asking God, how exactly each person in my life is a family member in Christ. The prophets Elijah and Elisha had an intimate father and son relationship, centered around God. Naomi and Ruth, another example of mother and daughter, centered around faith in God. David and Jonathan, their relationship is quite intimate, they were true brothers in spirit. They found something in each other, they could not with women, even their wives. David being a man after God's heart is the key there. When you are attracted by Christ, in the life of another, that for me is a true and eternal relationship. My heavenly treasure.

Being single, I've had the blessing to experience being a father to my two nieces. Their father left them at a very young age, and my sister still walks in the world in regards to relationships. I've sacrificed a lot, to help take care of my nieces. They were basically over every weekend, since they were both born. Sometimes even caring for them for an entire week. God used my eldest niece to experience the rejection and heartbreak of a father, once, last year. A key moment in my life, that allowed me to finally have a real relationship with God himself and seek him out with my full heart, mind and soul. I would never of expected this relationship to be one of the greatest I'd be blessed with.

Living as a single person, does not mean loneliness to me. It means I'm not bound by the world's ideal to chase after a unicorn. God has promised me a wife, and he will bring her to me on his time. Until then, I get to be fruitful, with being a son to many, a brother to many, and currently a father to some, outside of my two precious nieces.

When it comes to my desire for a wife, before that notion or goal, I will develop my relationship with her as a sister in Christ. Someone I will continue to pray for and support, as we serve the Lord. If I'm not willing to continue doing that, after realizing there is no romance planned by God, then I never really viewed them as someone who I can share with in God.

Don't take being singleness as a weakness or limiting who you can love. Take it as a freedom one can only experience through Christ our Lord. After all, Jesus came to set us free from the world.

(Please feel free to correct or teach me if I got any terminology wrong, I am still learning how to share. :) )
 
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Theres a lot of places I could begin but I'll start with the fact you will inevitably get tired of the person you are with. What do you do once you see the person as they really are and not what you hoped they were?

How will you find time for God when romantic relationships require a significant majority of your time?

Why spend time for something that doesn't last forever when you could get a head start on building heavenly treasures with your heavenly father that does last forever?

Romantic relationships are meaningless. I'm sure king Solomon would agree with me. All relationships do is distract you from what matters, which is what lasts, the immaterial.

I made this thread to encourage people who aren't in relationships or who don't think they will ever get in one that theres something you could aim for that doesn't distract you from something much more valuable than a temporary relationship.

I feel like being in a relationship is like taking the blue pill and isn't real. I feel like if you really want to serve the Lord remember you can't serve two masters and you have the opportunity to go all in and get a head start on building up heavenly treasures and what could be more meaningful than that?

Choosing singleness so you can be with God as much as you can seems like a much more valuable and meaningful way to live. I feel spiritually heightened being single compared to when I was in a relationship where I devoted a significant amount of time that would have produced a larger harvest had it been serving and engaging in fellowship with the Lord .
Agree and disagree.
Assuming this is a Christian relationship, why not serve God when you’re together, and when you’re not, still serve Him?
Because, depending on the age of this bf/gf, they want something that will last until death. You can be devoted to God equally, or even more in a relationship. Depends. I’ve heard wonderful testimonies of how a future Bf/gf led their future bf/gf to Christ.
If Christ is the foundation of the relationship, then the only thing it can do is bring you closer to God.
Now this isn’t always the case. Dating for some cause much more harm then good. Half and half.
If God wants His servant simple, He will make their heart feel that way.
For me personally, I’ve only been in one serious relationship which did not go well. However in the end, it brought me to Christ realizing dating couldn’t save me.
 
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I also share, as one who has never had a romantic relationship with any woman, or even dared to ask one out on a date.

venksta,

Is your singleness the result of personal choice and intentional abstinence or the inability to find a suitor? It's one thing to devote yourself to the Lord and trust His timing and another to do so because the intended path bore no fruit.

All you've shared is noble. But was He your first choice all along?

Yours in His Service,

~Bella
 
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venksta,

Is your singleness the result of personal choice and intentional abstinence or the inability to find a suitor? It's one thing to devote yourself to the Lord and trust His timing and another to do so because the intended path bore no fruit.

All you've shared is noble. But was He your first choice all along?

Yours in His Service,

~Bella

Hi Bella,

In a nutshell, I'm currently single due to the truth God started putting in my heart from a young age and being patient, by His will.

2 Corinthians 6:14
Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness?

From childhood, this verse was engraved into my heart by God. The truth spoke to me loudly, do to my upbringing. My father came from a muslim background, and my mother being a Christian. Though, my father wasn't a practicing muslim, his "faith" was there to avoid shame from his family. I saw first hand the issues my parents faced with each other by not sharing the same faith. So finding someone on a romantic level, was determined by me if they knew Jesus as their Lord. That would be the main reason I never pursued anyone yet. As well, the only places I'd find someone who knew Jesus, would be at church, but I've struck out. My childhood church never had anyone I was interested in, even though there were some class mates from school. When God brought me to my current church, I got there while all the young adults were on their way out. So it has been barren there. The other reasons to a good extent, self confidence, and fear of rejection, lol. Those luckily have all been sorted out by God now. I have been interested in certain women, but never got interested enough to pursue them in my adult life.

God has also gave me friends who are older than me by 5 to 10 years. They've all married in their mid or late 30's, and started their families closer to their 40's. This has helped me to stay patient, seeing how God has blessed them.

All you've shared is noble. But was He your first choice all along?

No, God wasn't. I didn't even know that was an option for a very long time. I'm very grateful that when I finally spoke to God from my broken and rejected heart, He spoke back with His love.
 
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Theres a lot of places I could begin but I'll start with the fact you will inevitably get tired of the person you are with. What do you do once you see the person as they really are and not what you hoped they were?

How will you find time for God when romantic relationships require a significant majority of your time?

Why spend time for something that doesn't last forever when you could get a head start on building heavenly treasures with your heavenly father that does last forever?

Romantic relationships are meaningless. I'm sure king Solomon would agree with me. All relationships do is distract you from what matters, which is what lasts, the immaterial.

I made this thread to encourage people who aren't in relationships or who don't think they will ever get in one that theres something you could aim for that doesn't distract you from something much more valuable than a temporary relationship.

I feel like being in a relationship is like taking the blue pill and isn't real. I feel like if you really want to serve the Lord remember you can't serve two masters and you have the opportunity to go all in and get a head start on building up heavenly treasures and what could be more meaningful than that?

Choosing singleness so you can be with God as much as you can seems like a much more valuable and meaningful way to live. I feel spiritually heightened being single compared to when I was in a relationship where I devoted a significant amount of time that would have produced a larger harvest had it been serving and engaging in fellowship with the Lord .
I feel lonely as a single but I also know that a relationship won't solve my problems based on the very things you said.
 
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