By Water and Blood

Kenneth Redden said:

You were born again when you were born of your mother; Today, the fourth day of Creation.

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That is not what Jesus said. You are just making stuff up.

Kenneth Redden said:

The KJV Bible was said from the beginning and third day of the Creation; unfinished, Jesus came by water only and sin remained in the world, 1 John 5:6. This explains why, “peoples, and multitudes, and nations, and tongues”, are called, “the waters”, in Revelation 17:15. For it was not until the fourth day of the Creation; Today, that Christ Jesus came by water and blood, died on the cross and sin was taken away from the world. Now sinless; the world needed a new commandment, which is the, “new commandment,” Christ gave us in John 13:34.

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This is He who came by water and blood—Jesus Christ; not only by water, but by water and blood. And it is the Spirit who bears witness, because the Spirit is truth. 1 John 3:6


All people come into this world by water, only the Lord Jesus Christ, came by both water and blood.


1 John 5:6 is a reference to the virgin birth of Jesus Christ, fulfilling what the prophet spoke saying...


Therefore the Lord Himself will give you a sign: Behold, the virgin shall conceive and bear a Son, and shall call His name Immanuel.
Isaiah 7:14






JLB

Kenneth Redden said:

What Bible are you using. It is incorrect. It changed the word "our" to "their" in Revelation 11:8

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You mean this Revelation 11:8? "My translation" does not change the word. That is simply, solely, undeniably, irrefutably, a blatant falsehood. I encourage you not to make assumptions about others, Kenneth.

Josheb said:

You mean this Revelation 11:8? "My translation" does not change the word. That is simply, solely, undeniably, irrefutably, a blatant falsehood. I encourage you not to make assumptions about others, Kenneth.

Revelation 11:8 KJV
"And their dead bodies shall lie in the street of the great city, which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified."​

Revelation 11:8 NAS
"And their dead bodies will lie in the street of the great city which mystically is called Sodom and Egypt, where also their Lord was crucified."​

Revelation 11:8 BLB
"And their body will be upon the street of the great city, which is called spiritually Sodom and Egypt, where also their Lord was crucified."

Revelation 11:8 ESV
"and their dead bodies will lie in the street of the great city that symbolically is called Sodom and Egypt, where their Lord was crucified."
Revelation 11:8 NIV
"Their bodies will lie in the public square of the great city--which is figuratively called Sodom and Egypt--where also their Lord was crucified."
Revelation 11:8 YLT
"and their dead bodies are upon the broad-place of the great city (that is called spiritually Sodom, and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified,)"​

An examination of the Greek reveals the word is "auton" which is translated "of them." As in "The body of them upon the street..." It would appear your source is incorrect about Rev. 11:8.


The grammar you are using makes it read as if you are saying 1611 English was spoken by God at the beginning of creation. Is that what you mean to be saying?

If not is this op an effort to argue KJV-Onlyism?​

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Hi, I really don't know what this guy is on about. This is what it says in the Authorized KJV:

Rev 11:8 And their dead bodies shall lie in the street of the great city, which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified.

Hi, Kenneth .I love the KJV and have read it almost back to front. I really don't know where you get your doctrine from. You're accusing others of interpretation ,but you're interpreting a lot there. There are many useful parallelisms in the Bible as long as you apply them with scripture. There is symbolism and parable as well.

1John 5:8 And there are three that bear witness in earth, the spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three agree in one.

John 19:30 When Jesus therefore had received the vinegar, he said, It is finished: and he bowed his head, and gave up the ghost(spirit).

John 19:34 But one of the soldiers with a spear pierced his side, and forthwith came there out blood and water.

Those are the spirit,water and blood.

Johan_1988 said:

Hi, I really don't know what this guy is on about. This is what it says in the Authorized KJV:

Rev 11:8 And their dead bodies shall lie in the street of the great city, which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified.

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lol. He does not know, either. Might be early dementia. I don't know what else would explain the poor grammar, the absurdly false claims, and the unscriptural and unchristlike hypocrisy of content like post #21. It is very odd. 1 John 5:6 overtly contradicts the assertion, "...Jesus came by water only..." It is not the explanation for why people are called waters in Rev. 17:5, today is not the fourth day of creation, and the world is not now sinless. The claims made in op are very bizarre. I did ask for clarification.

It appears this is an apologetic for KJVOism. I'm not sure that qualifies as controversial theology. It's certainly not a position that can be proven rationally. I, personally, have no problem with the KJV but it is not an wholly accurate translation and this is easily verified in many, many scriptural passages.