God put Trump in White House, says US ambassador to Israel

Dorothy Mae said:

Isn’t that what 21st century “prophets” do? There are even schools where they teach how to prophesy and those “experts” say openly they don’t expect anything close to the Biblical standard for accuracy.

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I thought that was pundit training for cable news

rockytopva said:

Mr Brody asked whether Mr Friedman, who is Jewish, believes that "God puts people in certain places in certain times, for such a time as this".

He replied: "I think God puts persons in places for certain times, at all times."

"And Trump is exhibit A of this?" Mr Brody asked.

Mr Friedman said: "He sure is."

God put Trump in White House, says US ambassador to Israel

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if God is sovereign he did, however, the question should be is Trump himself strategically advancing the kingdom to give glory to God? I would argue his motivation is narcissistic and more about self-preservation/glorification then it is about concern about God or for that matter Israel.

The bible started by building up then ends with deconstructing this idea that Israel is a nation that needs to be spoon-fed in order for the gospel to advance (but for some reason no one got the memo for the last part). I'll spell it out, OT Israel is a concrete image, as is with most OT things such as the law, where the NT Israel is abstract and not geopolitical, not lingual-cultural or region-specific in any way (so throwing money at a geopolitical, lingual-cultural and region-specific grossly misses the point)

paul1149 said:

Actually Kim Clement said a non-praying man would enter the Oval Office, but he would become a praying man as president.

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I haven't seen one of Clement saying such a thing and he never said that Trump would become President. It's interesting how these prophesies are people looking back at his prophesies and trying to make them fit their desires.

Clement said in 2008, "God’s Spirit says, I’m waiting, I’m waiting for the response from My people throughout this land. Can somebody see victory? Can somebody see honor? For God says, let Me remind you I will place at your helm a President that shall pray to Me, says the Lord. He will pray to Me. And God says, in the next two terms there will be a praying President, not a religious one, for I will fool the people, says the Lord. I will fool the people, yes I will. God says, the one that is chosen shall go in and they shall say, he has hot blood. For the Spirit God says, yes he may have hot blood, but he will bring the walls of protection on this country in a greater way and the economy of this country shall change rapidly, says the Lord of Hosts. God says, I will put at your helm for two terms a President that will pray but he will not be a praying President when he starts. I will put him in Office and then I will baptize him with the Holy Spirit and My power, says the Lord of Hosts……

The next two terms were served by Obama and he was also a praying President, though he was private about his worship.

A prophesy from 2007, where he does mention Trump, there is nothing about him running for President but does reference him along with Bill Gates. “Trump shall become a trumpet,” says the Lord! “I will raise up the Trump to become a trumpet and Bill Gates to open up the gate of a financial realm for the Church,” says the Spirit of the Living God!

rockytopva said:

Mr Brody asked whether Mr Friedman, who is Jewish, believes that "God puts people in certain places in certain times, for such a time as this".

He replied: "I think God puts persons in places for certain times, at all times."

"And Trump is exhibit A of this?" Mr Brody asked.

Mr Friedman said: "He sure is."

God put Trump in White House, says US ambassador to Israel

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God 'made' people vote for him?

rockytopva said:

He replied: "I think God puts persons in places for certain times, at all times."

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Oh, so FO-FO-FO-FO... FOUR MORE YEARS!!!

Rawtheran said:

Without getting too deep into a philosophical or theological discussion I think that we all on here can agree that God can use anyone whether they be good, evil, or otherwise to bring about his will.

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Yes, God could put an evil man in the White House.

Yarddog said:

The one that predicted Trump in the WH missed it by 4 years. He then changed it after he realized he was wrong.

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Kim Klement got it dead on.

There was also a lady who was very well known, cannot remember her name, who stated "Trump will win over my dead body".

She died the day of the election.

If I can find the source I will post it. So, don't worry, if you dispute me, I have no support at the time, for that fact.

Chris V++ said:

Yes, God could put an evil man in the White House.

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This blows my mind.

If you think that Trump is evil, you need to listen to Candice Ownes. A black democrat turned republican. She will outline all the things that the Democrats have done to destroy the black families and perpetuate their poverty.

Also, if you think Trump is evil, you should look at what he is doing for God's chosen people of Israel, the unemployment rate for blacks and Hispanics, bringing business back to the US and the stock market and economy of the USA.

People have such a true hate for this man... why?

What was your other option? Hillary? Please......You think Trump is evil?

JacksBratt said:

You think Trump is evil?

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Amoral would probably describe him better. Evil sounds like it would be too much effort for him.

rockytopva said:

Mr Brody asked whether Mr Friedman, who is Jewish, believes that "God puts people in certain places in certain times, for such a time as this".
He replied: "I think God puts persons in places for certain times, at all times."
"And Trump is exhibit A of this?" Mr Brody asked.
Mr Friedman said: "He sure is."
God put Trump in White House, says US ambassador to Israel

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What is often lost in such pronouncements as to God "putting" or ordaining is that God's sovereign will is both efficacious and permissive. Often scripture notes His permissive will as "God gave them over...", simply viewing the present with only the "right" eye open leads to questionable discernment.

rockytopva said:

Mr Brody asked whether Mr Friedman, who is Jewish, believes that "God puts people in certain places in certain times, for such a time as this".

He replied: "I think God puts persons in places for certain times, at all times."

"And Trump is exhibit A of this?" Mr Brody asked.

Mr Friedman said: "He sure is."

God put Trump in White House, says US ambassador to Israel

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As Christians, why should we care what people of another religion think about what their false god may or may not be doing? We should not concern ourselves with the vanity of the heathen but should rather focus on serving Christ by sharing the gospel with them.

rockytopva said:

Mr Brody asked whether Mr Friedman, who is Jewish, believes that "God puts people in certain places in certain times, for such a time as this".

He replied: "I think God puts persons in places for certain times, at all times."

"And Trump is exhibit A of this?" Mr Brody asked.

Mr Friedman said: "He sure is."

God put Trump in White House, says US ambassador to Israel

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Couldn't God have made a better choice?

JacksBratt said:

Kim Klement got it dead on.

There was also a lady who was very well known, cannot remember her name, who stated "Trump will win over my dead body".

She died the day of the election.

If I can find the source I will post it. So, don't worry, if you dispute me, I have no support at the time, for that fact.

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Clement was correct. Obama won the election which Clement was referring to. He served the two terms as predicted and was a praying President.

Rawtheran said:

This may be controversial to say on here but I think that many prophetic voices that spoke out and said that Donald Trump was anointed by God to be in the White House and be a friend to the Jewish people was accurate.

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Why should anyone believe them?

One thing I find disturbing (and I'm not accusing you of this since I don't know your particular position) is that there appears to exist a subset of protestant evangelicals in America that claim to be "friendly" to Israel, but do so on the basis of their belief that "Israel" has to "be in the land" in order to bring about a sequence of events leading to the end of days and the return of Christ. But in this process is supposedly a great conflagration in which many people in Israel will be killed due to war, violence and the associated side effects. So I find quite a contradiction between those who say that they are "friendly" to Jews and "blessing" Israel and their belief that they are actively supporting a sequence of events that will lead to the destruction of those same Jews.

So I'm quite skeptical when "many prophetic voices" claim to be "friendly" to the Jewish people. I suspect they may be friendly only insofar as they believe they are supporting the return of Christ. In this sense, being "friendly" is just a means to an end.

Clearly even the Jews are starting to see this as well.

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I suppose by "the Jews" you mean "the State of Israel?" It's not as if "the Jews" are some monolithic group with homogeneous beliefs and preferences.

Jamsie said:

What is often lost in such pronouncements as to God "putting" or ordaining is that God's sovereign will is both efficacious and permissive. Often scripture notes His permissive will as "God gave them over...", simply viewing the present with only the "right" eye open leads to questionable discernment.

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This is a good point. I've heard it put that God's will is prescriptive, permissive and decretive. What these "many prophetic voices" don't discuss is that they may be "doing God's will" but that their doing so is not justification for their behavior. It could be that God is just turning them over to their hearts desire, so to say. So "God's will" may be to just let them do what pleases them and bear the costs and consequences of their behavior.

JacksBratt said:

This blows my mind.

If you think that Trump is evil, you need to listen to Candice Ownes. A black democrat turned republican. She will outline all the things that the Democrats have done to destroy the black families and perpetuate their poverty.

Also, if you think Trump is evil, you should look at what he is doing for God's chosen people of Israel, the unemployment rate for blacks and Hispanics, bringing business back to the US and the stock market and economy of the USA.

People have such a true hate for this man... why?

What was your other option? Hillary? Please......You think Trump is evil?

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interesting: so your defense of President Trump not being evil is an economy created by the last administration, Democrats did stuff and because you don't like other people as much as you like him?
tulc(so noted)

NotreDame said:

That’s so ambiguous and open ended as to be useless as a prophesy. That could possibly apply to a person 50 years from now, and within that same tenure of time, maybe more than one person.

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That's not all he said.

rockytopva said:

Mr Brody asked whether Mr Friedman, who is Jewish, believes that "God puts people in certain places in certain times, for such a time as this".

He replied: "I think God puts persons in places for certain times, at all times."

"And Trump is exhibit A of this?" Mr Brody asked.

Mr Friedman said: "He sure is."

God put Trump in White House, says US ambassador to Israel

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I would not blame God for US voters not choosing a better President.

tulc said:

interesting: so your defense of President Trump not being evil is an economy created by the last administration, Democrats did stuff and because you don't like other people as much as you like him?
tulc(so noted)

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No, since you missed the point.... Trump is God's choice for the US at this time, He is not near as evil as the alternative, so calling him evil, all things relative... is an incorrect argument.

Yarddog said:

Clement said a praying man would be elected President around '07 but that would fit Obama more than Trump. Trump even said he doesn't like praying to ask for forgiveness and that he was a good man.

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Yea if you believe in the Muslim call to prayer,
and praying to the Prophet of Islam.

Obama was anti and very cynical of the bible.

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